I have a feeling this $5 will really pay off. Slim is quite a big % if you do math and science.
A polite discourse amongst friends on the importance of MP-elements in No Man's Sky
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I have a feeling this $5 will really pay off. Slim is quite a big % if you do math and science.
https://twitter.com/nomanssky/status/762688708764135425
damnnnnn
Yeah I think they were hoping nobody would run into each other in time to patch it in or something.
damnnnnn
Yeah I think they were hoping nobody would run into each other in time to patch it in or something.
Gamezone
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That's perfect.
toddhunter
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To be fair it is more like this:
"Pay me $5 and you have a slim chance of winning the lottery"
"So you are sure I have a chance right, even if it is slim?"
"Yes, no, rainbows are pretty"
"... Ok here is your $5. I have not won yet, did I really have a chance?"
"Unicorns!!!"
Both sides are being dumb here. Devs should communicate properly about what is in a game. Players should not pay money until everything was communicated clearly. The question of multiplayer was a clusterfuck well beyond launch. Even if it is in there, nobody knows what form or if it would take or even if it would work properly or when.
The fix is on the players. Stop preordering and you will start getting the info.
No, Hello Games and Sean Murray were consistent and clear throughout the development of No Man's Sky. Everytime they were asked "Can people see each other in the game?", the answer always "Yes, players can run into and see each other. However, the game is so large that these instances will be extremely extremely rare". There has not been a time where they were bluntly asked this question and they gave an unclear answer.
Hard at work a day before it comes out, that would be pretty worrying, no?
butman
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Sean says in the videos. The chances of encounter are tiny.
I don't understand why everyone complains. The game was released in less than a week and there are 18 quintillion planets for god sake!
The moment when a player meets other for the first time will be a milestone in the history of video games. Mark my words.
sciencerob
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The fact that people care about this is mind boggling particularly since you can't do anything with other people in the game. I just don't get it.
Na. Plenty of devs work until the very last second to try to do the most they can. With a game of this magnitude i am sure that even if they felt it was done, there are a lot of things to prepare for server wise, and bug wise, performance and what not to keep up before releasing on a large scale.
In the industry its just common practice. I don't think it signifies its in trouble or not. Maybe in some cases that is exactly the case tho.
VlaudTheImpaler
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Ummm... Somebody else want to show him?
What? Players have already found each other except that they can't see each other because apparently you can't share instances.
Milestone in the history of video games?
Nah, we've gotten plenty of devs not being 100% honest in the past.
Same shit, different day.
I'm gonna trust you on this one buddy because so far you've never let me down, even during the amazing mgs shitposting days haha.
Well we'll see in a day.
"Guys, what is even honesty, really?"
Obviously i am just talking from my experience working through projects and meeting milestones and deadlines. There is always something else you can polish or fix or iterate on.
Specially in this industry, the best people are the ones that are obsessed about making things better.
It would be awesome for coop and meeting people in space. Rare but possible as already seen on Day 1
You can see them and they can see you.
Therefore, the only way to see your avatar in game is through this method.
I think if he did it would take away some of the mystery of the game. However since he said MP was in in the past but now is being very vague about it, it's pretty obvious the answer is no.
orthodoxy1095
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butman
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Please i want to see.
UncleSporky
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OfTheOverflow
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I just don't understand why Sean felt the need to lie about this;why not just say "No, you can't actually meet up with people at all although you do exist in the same universe " that really wouldn't have been that disappointing.
Wow... name ANY fps game that does that.
If you can, OK cool... then name 3.
Kssio_Aug
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I thought you were joking. But, in case you're not, people are already getting in the exact same place, at the same time. There's the guys in OP and, if I'm not mistaken, in the middle of the thread there was a report of another two players. They were streamming it on Twitch and all...
That's why this thread was created to begin with. Players are already "meeting" each other (what obviously implies it isn't nearly that hard and rare to happen) at the same place, but they can't see each other cause apparently the MP aspect previously implied doesn't exist.
Doing reflections on things that aren't prebaked into the environment is very very resource-intensive.
Heavy_D206
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You think this implies it's not rare?
I'll tell you a planet I named and you can boot up the game right now and try to find it. Let's see how long it takes you.
Kssio_Aug
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I don't have the game yet. Am planning on getting it on GoG (when it gets cheaper).
Still I'm not affirming it's an easy task. I'm just saying the chances are most certainly WAY higher than what was previously implied.
But, since people were able to do it day one, I do think it's not that hard of a task actually.
The rarity of finding you and the rarity anybody are not one and the same. Again, if it is 100% not possible for people to see each other in the game, why did he say "Yes, but it will rarely ever happen because of the size of the game"?
My cousin literally just asked me at bowling if I bought no mans sky. I said no because I'm playing WoW atm and you can't play with other folks online.
He fucking immediately said "what the fuck, they said multiple times you could run into random players on adventures and do shit"
Yes, he's not happy at all and neither am I. Will pick this up when it drops fast by this holiday.
Not paying $60 for a game where I was promised features that were lied about
He fucking immediately said "what the fuck, they said multiple times you could run into random players on adventures and do shit"
Yes, he's not happy at all and neither am I. Will pick this up when it drops fast by this holiday.
Not paying $60 for a game where I was promised features that were lied about
UncleSporky
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It's around page 26 if you want to have some laughs.
I'm not really calling all these people out or anything, some of them are just aghast at the sticker and not really calling it fake.
Sorry can you link where you found this?
Yet they didn't bother covering the one that says "interacciones de red" you know... The one that games like battlefield have that says "2-66 network players"
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Sagantor went all in:
Top kek.
The point isnt to disprove that it is difficult to meet intentionally, but that running into someone else has been happening in an easier way than conveyed by the developer. The point of it is to show that the almost 0% chance of seeing someone else was a crapshoot, and if the developer lied about the online functionality of being able to see other characters just because the chance was so low, then that is a completely irresponsible action and should be discouraged by players, not ignored or rationalized with senseless excuses.
ScatheZombie
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In reality, nearly every developer that has publicly spoken about their game has... embellished, exaggerated, been less than honest, omitted, or flat out lied about something.
It's part of the job of marketing. I had to do it all the damn time and I hated it.
Not saying that's any sort of excuse for anything, but people acting like Hello Games is the only company (or even in the minority of game companies) to do such a thing are woefully naive. Hell, you probably read something about a game today that was full of shit - you just don't know it yet - and there's a good chance you never will.
Thing is that the one shown back then was a different one from the OP and also had a timestamp
Someone is not up to date with recent events... or the topic of the OP
Nobody, NOBODY, is acting as if Hello Games is the only company to do such a thing. Here's a marketing question. If you are asked if your game contains a feature that it does not contain, should you say that feature is or is not in the game?
VlaudTheImpaler
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I... don't see anyone acting like that though. I'm pretty sure everyone is aware that people lie. Was there really someone saying that a studio in particular never does?
Also, just because it may be common place doesn't mean that it should be. I think more people should be called out on this bs so that we can get rid of this trend. It's shameful and disgusting and I think the industry as a whole would be better off without it.
Here's the "fake" he was calling out:
Recently posted, interesting stuff, time-stamp included. Would love to know if real.
Here's the one in the OP by a completely different user:
Here you go
Notice how the sticker placement is different? Not so sure it's fake anymore.
blame space
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Insane anecdote.. It's like I was really there.
ScatheZombie
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It's not a trend. You will never get rid of it.
sciencerob
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I haven't followed too closely but can you show me any place where they talked about co-op? it would be cool (a good friend of mine is playing the game as well) but i don't think it was promised.
VlaudTheImpaler
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Well not with that attitude young man!
I just don't believe you. I also think that even if it is something that will always be there it doesn't mean that we should lie down and take it.
No. It was all a lie.
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