Mad Season
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You're don't wait on situations like tvis. You act immediately to stop the bleeding
A polite discourse amongst friends on the importance of MP-elements in No Man's Sky
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Probably there's no model displayed for the player on the local machine.
Bad analogy, a physical good differs from software, especially launch software that will have patches.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Honestly why be pissed, either buy it or don't
To some of you? Sure.
then they should be saying that the feature doesn't exist now but is on the game's roadmap
right now it's an unfulfilled promise they refuse to talk about
Important product information was unclear until the day before purchase.
To be clear the box says Online Play.
I mean, if you bought it thinking that this was a feature...
More to the point is that the exploration system isn't complex, not even close. I found an unpatrolled cave full of resources that would have been perfect for mining out. But there's no way to mark it. So once I take off from that spot fat chance I'll ever be able to find it again.
Treating your discoveries as disposable and trivial is not exploration.
Crimsonclaw111
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Gonna git gud if they don't respond by the PC launch which will be data mined to hell and back.
Not talking for one day about it !== refusing to talk about it.
i here thatCheck out the last season of Amazing Race. Pretty sure she came like 3rd or something....but yea not much new insight, can't really blame them though since the devs have decided to leave everybody in the dark
doing it right now.
If they didn't have the multiplayer ready yet then why didn't they tell us?
Vegetable Lasagna
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Not really. Same result. I was promised something that isn't there. Doesn't matter if it's a physical good or some code in software. I paid good money based on expectations that the seller set leading all the way up to release. And some of those promises are clearly missing with the seller refusing to even just acknowledge why I am dissatisfied. I'm not even mad because the feature is not there. I'm mad that they sat on this issue all the way up to launch and are now playing dead when asked about it. If not Hello Games/Sony, who should we be unhappy with? My cat? A random person walking down the sidewalk? Crocs or those other stupid shoes with the individual toes? Please explain.
And if it is coming in a patch. Why won't they say that? Please explain. Thank you.
Moon_frogger
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I've been playing the game and it's great. I really want an answer about this though. Everybody here has to admit that this is a pretty unique and odd situation. I've never heard of a scenario where people didn't know if there was multiplayer or not
It may be broken under the load, like so many games at launch.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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I'm mostly talking about those who haven't bought it but are pissed.
I mean, they never showed MP gameplay in the trailers or play-alongs do it was relatively safe to hedge bets.
if people are buying a game day one they're doing it based on a developer's promises
if some of those promises are false then that's fucking scummy
it's not that hard to understand
THEN WHY CAN'T THEY TELL US THAT?
Vegetable Lasagna
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Because they're too busy working on updating the game to have one of their PR reps, who are paid to do this kind of work btw, communicate to the consumers that are dropping $60 a pop on their product. Just another day in the life of a dev and publisher! Clearly nothing to see here, folks.
EatinOlives
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Murray has said that what you (the player) look like is one of the mysteries to discover. Showing another player in trailers ruins that mystery.
Now, this is all fine and dandy if there is, in fact, a way to see other players. If there isn't it's in very poor form because that would mean Murray has exploited the purposefully mysterious messaging for the game, something previously used as a playful thing to get hype, and is now being leveraged as a way to sneak in feature cancellations without anybody knowing. That's pretty screwed up.
But there's no confirmation one way or the other yet. Servers still having trouble, Sean still not saying anything definitive, it's just gonna be a while before we know.
But Sean has time to tweet all day about the games' success?
M.W.
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I'm sure he gets 10 second breaks during the day
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
Come on. Tweets don't take that long to send.
The guy has been tweeting a lot recently.
So I'm pretty sure Hello Games knows it's lying about the MP. I've personally never felt I had enough concrete info that it was MP by the answers (more in a moment) but I do not fault people for believing it simply by the way it was handled.
The answers I'm referencing is all of the major evidence I've seen that said "No Man's Sky is MP" was when it was asked in a chain of questions.
"Do you guys see yourselves? No, someone else has to see you." This isn't untrue. It's just whether or not they CAN see you.
"Those wingmen are AI, but you COULD encounter other players but the likelihood of that is tiny." True, tinier if you don't actually finish the feature.
"Will you be able to play with your friends? Can you grief other players?" <laugher> "Yes." This one is simple. You've just griefed us with this answer Sean.
It should be noted MUCH of these are also taken shortly after the VGX awards (where honestly no one was caring about this game until its E3 showing the following Summer.)
I dunno, I feel like it was never felt to be MP and the reality is they made an MP Universe and it feels both populated and isolated as I suspect was the initial feeling. Would it be rad? No doubt. I feel this game is like Elite Dangerous meets Out There (Android). I just feel the answers given were two faced and DEFINITELY misleading. Maybe I'm just a skeptic who was taught to question even things I want to believe though that will make you an unhappy person.
I just want them to answer this question so we can all move on to deciding if we like it or not... and then talk about it if we do. (Cause I'm liking the game.)
The answers I'm referencing is all of the major evidence I've seen that said "No Man's Sky is MP" was when it was asked in a chain of questions.
"Do you guys see yourselves? No, someone else has to see you." This isn't untrue. It's just whether or not they CAN see you.
"Those wingmen are AI, but you COULD encounter other players but the likelihood of that is tiny." True, tinier if you don't actually finish the feature.
"Will you be able to play with your friends? Can you grief other players?" <laugher> "Yes." This one is simple. You've just griefed us with this answer Sean.
It should be noted MUCH of these are also taken shortly after the VGX awards (where honestly no one was caring about this game until its E3 showing the following Summer.)
I dunno, I feel like it was never felt to be MP and the reality is they made an MP Universe and it feels both populated and isolated as I suspect was the initial feeling. Would it be rad? No doubt. I feel this game is like Elite Dangerous meets Out There (Android). I just feel the answers given were two faced and DEFINITELY misleading. Maybe I'm just a skeptic who was taught to question even things I want to believe though that will make you an unhappy person.
I just want them to answer this question so we can all move on to deciding if we like it or not... and then talk about it if we do. (Cause I'm liking the game.)
AcademicSaucer
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They should hire you to do PR for them, hell, pay 2 bucks to someone from Reddit .
Can't ruin the surprise
bloodforge
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Were they both even connected to the online server? It goes in and out all the time if you look in the options menu.
Clockwork5
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I'm glad it's not a feature.
Working up a sultry PR statement for the masses. I can even bet that they will get it out a few hours before the PC release. People are going to dissect this game and try to be the first to release info for a little internet fame.
Vegetable Lasagna
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lol Is Hello Games connected to reality? Because if they are and it's just launch server issues... They should be pretty upfront about that right now. Not being upfront about this stuff is what a bad look is. Not consumers complaining about missing, promised features. It's pretty clear they don't want to help this news spread with an official statement if it's going to compromise sales any further. Once that happens it's going to spread to a lot more people than just current owners and internet nerds. I'd probably do the same thing if I was them and it's shady as hell.
Have we reached this stage already?
I don't think CNN or the like really care.
Lol. Yah need to get Serial season 3 based on this.
I don't think CNN or the like really care.
Maybe someone should climb a scyscraper with the question written on their back.
SirMossyBloke
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It must really suck to finally see a passion of yours available for people, only to be torn to shreds online.
You must have missed it, we reached this stage a long time ago. Clockwork is just behind
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
This is why it's best not to mislead people and set up false expectations of your passion.
Flying Toaster
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Eh, perils of mass global communication and communities. I love the game.
orthodoxy1095
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You should be aware of that before you put a product to market.
This whole thing could have easily been avoided by being more open
I think Sean Murray is an awesome dude and the game he created seems amazing. That being said, it's wrong to mislead customers.
Nightmare fuel.
Vegetable Lasagna
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#fortheplayers
Then maybe they shouldn't have said their game is an interconnected multiplayer online world where players can spontaneously run into each other in addition to being a procedurally generated universe of planets?
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