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Ryan Lochte, 32 yo drunk "kid", pees in public, tried to bribe a dude, guns(?!?)

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Bread said:
What Ryan Lochte has done is absolutely abhorrent. He will most likely need to flee the United States to escape extradition.

Brazil's reputation as a safe place for tourists has been forever tarnished. They need to throw the book at him and fine him the maximum amount allowed, possibly even make him do community service for a week or two.
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Lochte proved himself to be a brave symbol of the American tourists liberating poorer countries. You must be proud.
 
This forum has a big problem in how it talks bout Latin America. This goes back years.
Shameful display by athletes and lots of you want to just hand wave away and say it's no big deal. But you all sure to spread the freedom and law and order right?
 
KingSnake said:
As I see it from here, Lochte is a lying douchebag and some people continue trashing the poorer country because it doesn't just accept the shaming.
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That's what I was thinking
first they thought fuck it we can vandalize and nobody is gonna care then they thought we can make up a cover story because everyone will assume Rio is a shithole (look at the first page of this topic), now they think they don't have to come clean because they are leaving, and fuck Brazil anyway nobody will believe the cops there.
 
evil solrac v3.0 said:
This forum has a big problem in how it talks bout Latin America. This goes back years.
Shameful display by athletes and lots of you want to just hand wave away and say it's no big deal. But you all sure to spread the freedom and law and order right?
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I don't think it is specific to this forum. Certain groups of people make up the majority of this forum and that group has a very strange perception of the world outside its borders, especially compared to itself.
 
Lkr said:
i can't keep up with the developments anymore. i was informed quite a few pages back that he went to the media but never filed any formal police report. it seemed like he said some shit went down, its in the past and im done with it, im going home. at this point i'm not even sure, there are so many conflicting reports and stories to this
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This is just the start dude. It will be Feigen watch 24x7 from now on.
 
Lochte died at the end of Disc 1 and the rest of this journey is a Fever Dream.

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whatever
 
causan said:
So if they are not charged with vandalism what is all this talk of trashing the bathroom?
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The gas station would have to press charges for the vandalism. It most likely does not want to. If it doesn't want to, there is nothing that the police can do about that particular conduct.
 
Coriolanus said:
The gas station would have to press charges for the vandalism. It most likely does not want to. If it doesn't want to, there is nothing that the police can do about that particular conduct.
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Oh so now victims have to press charges for the police to pursue someone for a crime???
 
oti xero said:
You would be annoyed? So what?
Am I missing something here?
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I think many folks, myself included, are thinking of this from the point of the view of the 2 guys who just got taken off the flight. They weren't taken off flight due to a crime they had committed, they were taken off due to a crime (lying to police) that Lochte had committed.

I have no objections to the police investigating the claim, and even requesting follow-up interviews with the swimmers, but at a certain point they have to consider what the end goal is with both swimmers out of the country and though the city of rio may have saved face in this one incident, but it also took any focus away from the olympics and put it right on brazil and crime. I won't be surprised if this story continues for the next few days and even till the end of the olympics.

Is Lochte a moron who committed a crime, yes. Did Rio handle this in the best possible way, probably not. The unfortunate part in all of this is that the guy who caused this shit-storm is comfortable back home in the USA.
 
Coriolanus said:
With some crimes, yes. With others, no.

Is all pretty clearly labeled out in our criminal code, fwiw.
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I've been lectured all thread that this is not the case at all, and indeed represents privileged thinking.

Is a mugging one of the crimes that the victim has to want to press charges for the police to pursue? Honestly asking here now that I know this is a thing.
 
just skimming this story...

Get shitfaced at club -> Trash bathroom like idiots -> Armed security at gas station asks them to hand over cash in order to avoid police?
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Lochte said:
On August 1, 2012, Lochte filed an application to trademark his personal catchphrase, "Jeah," with the U.S. Patent & Trademark Office. He abandoned the application before it was finalized.
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Oh god.

clockworkinyou said:
He tried to trademark the word 'jeah' for fuck's sake.
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Didn't know who he was, looked him up on wikipedia and just found this out. How do you even get the idea?
 
Quotient said:
I think many folks, myself included, are thinking of this from the point of the view of the 2 guys who just got taken off the flight. They weren't taken off flight due to a crime they had committed, they were taken off due to a crime (lying to police) that Lochte had committed.

I have no objections to the police investigating the claim, and even requesting follow-up interviews with the swimmers, but at a certain point they have to consider what the end goal is with both swimmers out of the country and though the city of rio may have saved face in this one incident, but it also took any focus away from the olympics and put it right on brazil and crime. I won't be surprised if this story continues for the next few days and even till the end of the olympics.

Is Lochte a moron who committed a crime, yes. Did Rio handle this in the best possible way, probably not. The unfortunate part in all of this is that the guy who caused this shit-storm is comfortable back home in the USA.
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Lochte took focus away from the Olympics by lying about getting robbed in the first place. Who cares if those athletes were annoyed? It's not their fault Lochte lied but that's their own problem, why would the police care about that at all? They can talk about this after all is said and done but suggesting the police should just let this go because "why not" makes no sense.

And even if the guy who caused all that is back home, will sponsors not react? The media? Trainers, colleagues etc.? That one gymnast got angry comments for being not patriotic enough and this is just cool I guess? What a weird world view.

I guess where both of us disagree here is that you see a movable "end goal" while I see the police trying to do their job, from beginning to end. Like it should.
 
Calamari41 said:
I've been lectured all thread that this is not the case at all, and indeed represents privileged thinking.

Is a mugging one of the crimes that the victim has to want to press charges for the police to pursue? Honestly asking here now that I know this is a thing.
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Mugging? no.
Ysee.

vandalism is Damages, which goes from articles 163 to 166, and then art. 167 clearly states that

Ação penal

Art. 167 - Nos casos do art. 163, do inciso IV do seu parágrafo e do art. 164, somente se procede mediante queixa.
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Penal Action
ARt. 167 - In the cases of art. 163 and item IV of its paragraph, and art. 164, charges are required to prosecute.
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and that's how it works. Charges are only required when the penal code explicitly states that they are required. Otherwise? Police is free to investigate.

The crime of theft, however, is in article 155, and has no provision demanding charges. Thus it falls into the general rule presented in article 100, which states that no formal charges are needed for prosecution.
Same for the crime of false communication of a crime.
 
Eylos said:
They confessed they lied, if someone wants to translate:
http://esportes.estadao.com.br/noti...a-salvar-relacionamento-de-colega,10000070468


They went to a party and one of the swimmers cheated his gf, two girls were with them, they went to that place and broked a mirror and toilet things, they gave 50 Bucks When a security appeared. They lied because one of them cheated.
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This is what I was expecting all along. It matched up the most with telling their inner circle that they were robbed to cover up for the time discrepancy, but then denying it when the story gained steam. Once the family got the press involved, the crazy train had enough steam to go anywhere. I've seen stupid stuff like this before, just not with Olympic athletes lol.
 
let's remember lochte's tale of bravery lol

“They pulled out their guns, they told the other swimmers to get down on the ground — they got down on the ground. I refused, I was like we didn't do anything wrong, so — I'm not getting down on the ground.

“And then the guy pulled out his gun, he cocked it, put it to my forehead and he said, 'Get down,' and I put my hands up, I was like 'whatever.'
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Eylos said:
They confessed they lied, if someone wants to translate:
http://esportes.estadao.com.br/noti...a-salvar-relacionamento-de-colega,10000070468


They went to a party and one of the swimmers cheated his gf, two girls were with them, they went to that place and broked a mirror and toilet things, they gave 50 Bucks When a security appeared. They lied because one of them cheated.
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who confessed? can't read portuguese but i haven't seen this anywhere on twitter or american media yet
 
Coriolanus said:
Mugging? no.
Ysee.

vandalism is Damages, which goes from articles 163 to 166, and then art. 167 clearly states that

and that's how it works. Charges are only required when the penal code explicitly states that they are required. Otherwise? Police is free to investigate.

The crime of theft, however, is in article 155, and has no provision demanding charges. Thus it falls into the general rule presented in article 100, which states that no formal charges are needed for prosecution.
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Thank you! Mystery solved for me after a whole day. I appreciate your knowledge.
 
evil solrac v3.0 said:
This forum has a big problem in how it talks bout Latin America. This goes back years.
Shameful display by athletes and lots of you want to just hand wave away and say it's no big deal. But you all sure to spread the freedom and law and order right?
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Have a video of them actually trashing the bathroom? All the video I've seen shows is an armed dude pointing a gun at them demanding money.
 
oti xero said:
Lochte took focus away from the Olympics by lying about getting robbed in the first place. Who cares if those athletes were annoyed? It's not their fault Lochte lied but that's their own problem, why would the police care about that at all? They can talk about this after all is said and done but suggesting the police should just let this go because "why not" makes no sense.

And even if the guy who caused all that is back home, will sponsors not react? The media? Trainers, colleagues etc.? That one gymnast got angry comments for being not patriotic enough and this is just cool I guess? What a weird world view.

I guess where both of us disagree here is that you see a movable "end goal" while I see the police trying to do their job, from beginning to end. Like it should.
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I see a police force expending, what looks like significant resources, to investigate a crime which really is a misdemeanor and resolved by paying a fine. If Brazil wishes to expend that much resources on every misdemeanor then good on them.

I do hope that Lochte faces some sort of repercussion for his actions.
 
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