You'll find in a lot of cases it'll be a smokescreen for "white." Not all of 'em. But a lot of 'em.
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Zendaya's role in SPIDER-MAN: HOMECOMING has been revealed!
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You'll find in a lot of cases it'll be a smokescreen for "white." Not all of 'em. But a lot of 'em.
EdibleExplosives
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None? Giving more major roles to minority characters is good, but that doesn't mean casting a white actor for a typically white role is a problem.
You're making it out to be some sort of war against whiteness, which doesn't exist.
Tombstone before Bushmaster? In what universe that makes sense?
Yeezus H. Christ
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i like how you say this as if whites don't get the vast majority of leading roles, no, roles in general in hollywood
poor white people, they're so misfortuned
Jesus Christ, I can't handle this much brutality. This thread is bad for my health.
What did he mean by this?
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The White Hate can be Kraven's codename
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What A Time To Be Alive
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BOI WHAT
Hexa
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It's her main defining visual trait. I don't care if its dyed or whatever, but she needs to have red hair.
She is 17 I think, she does look older there but she also is an easy person to pass as a highschool teenager. but like Grizzly said, she cant really act, Zendaya has an electric personality in her tv roles.
Hades Hotgun
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I'ma count off the number of times Ben Reilly made a deal with Mephisto to erase his marriage and the life of his daughter so he could continue a creepy child-like existence with his twice deceased Aunt May.
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DontBeThatGuy
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What's the problem with them being non-white?
quickwhips
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Seriously. Peter has many beautiful women of all hair colors in his life. The blonde the red head and the brunette are all important to Peter becoming who he is. They don't technically have to be those colors but I think this girl can pull off red head so she should. I'm not asking her to be replaced just her hair color.
I was like you once. Here's the thing, we, as latin american, come from a minority-less culture. There is racism here of course, but it's kept for the lesser of the less as our genes are so mixed to the bone that it becomes ridiculous; we're all the same patch of people, we're all one bunch.
That's not the case in the US, people have been living in oppression for centuries, for them it's like their country doesn't belong to them, the media treats them like zoo animals and caricatures, the authorities disrespect them, the world doesn't understand their struggles.
Representation means to people they are being acknowledged as part of the society, it means they are not being ignored and erased from the depiction of the very world they are part of. It's not hard to be empathic with the sentiment, it the end, it's the right thing.
NipplesAndToes23
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Oh shit. Get em Zendaya.
+1.
*sobs* But the red haaaaair!!! It's a pillar to the storyyyyyyyyy/s
+1.
Sibersk Esto
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Red hair is essential
Lights and Waves
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Fuck yes! This is awesome, so excited to see this film being so inclusive!
Her defining trait these days is tits bigger than her head somehow supported by a size 00 frame.
MHWilliams
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Understandable.
Good thing Quesada and Slott never got to Reilly.
DontBeThatGuy
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Red hair is essential
How shitty is a character that the most essential thing is the color of their hair?
*empties ashtray into the garbage* more than Ben deserved
Moon Patrol Pilot
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I'm not familiar with the actress, but from a cursory Google search I think she'll put a fine spin on the MJ character with a fresh new look. Along with a hot Italian younger Aunt May I think this Spidey movie will fit right in Queens NY setting.
However, I don't get the posters eagerly salivating for salt. The overall online response to this looks generally positive (at least from what I've been reading in the past hour). Most of the critical comments are along the lines of just keeping her ioconic red hair.
This is the first Spider-Man movie that I'll be eagerly looking forward to since the first one with Tobey M.
However, I don't get the posters eagerly salivating for salt. The overall online response to this looks generally positive (at least from what I've been reading in the past hour). Most of the critical comments are along the lines of just keeping her ioconic red hair.
This is the first Spider-Man movie that I'll be eagerly looking forward to since the first one with Tobey M.
ViewtifulJC
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same amount of times Ben Reily did anything relevant besides dying
Yeezus H. Christ
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this is literally 'why don't we have white history month'
fucking lol, i have no idea how you're not banned yet
neurosyphilis
Definitely not an STD, as I'm a pure.
We talking about the girl from the acne treatment commercials? She looks pretty white to me, but maybe has some mixed races in her genes
She's mixed black/white, which in America means you're black and supposed to identify that way. Also black people come in many shades of colors from dark to damn near white.
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……forgetit
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What's the issue with not being white? Maybe the casting directors didn't care about race and saw a ton of female actresses, and this one was the best. Maybe just maybe her blackness didn't get her the roll, but instead, for once, it didn't disqualify her from it.
I do like it when GAF responds like this...
...and not like this. I do see where you're comin' from though, YHC.
Salty Rice
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Why do people talk about the Hulk being green?
Liking or not liking the casting is one thing but ignoring that MJs redhair is one of her main and iconic features is just silly.
Of course people talk about the red hair when its about MJ.
Zen_Arcade
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He didn't say it was the most essential thing. Just that it's essential. It is pretty much the only essential physical trait she has though. That and be attractive if they end up having her be a model.
Because it's iconic
Tinfoilhatsron
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Man these kind of posts are eye-roll worthy. Maybe even two consecutive clockwise spins.Edit: Wooooooooooo top of the page. Um
Yeah I think the movie will probably be pretty good. Lets wait and see.
I...I don't...have the words....fhfssfdhkhskd
Rather have no red hair than dye it. Natural redheads rather than painting one's hair but eh.
Edit: I mean in the storyline.
Also no more MJ model character. It's high school time! Don't know how to feel about that. Everybody looks really young, like they are freshmen in HS.
DontBeThatGuy
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I dunno, red hair seems to be the most important thing to most people here, which tells me that character always been shit.
What? Why I would I be banned for pointing out my own fucking opinions? WTF is wrong with you.
She doesn't have red hair in that post of mine you're quoting.
EDIT: now I'm just staring at that gif again
I think people are making this discussion really unnecessarily toxic. Every actress to play MJ so far has had to dye her hair red. The vast majority of posters here seem to be fine with or even pleased with the casting choice, so why is it suddenly controversial to want red dye?
DontBeThatGuy
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Not all opinions are created equally. Tread carefully.
She could always you know........
FUCKING DYE HER HAIR.
I'd argue MJ's personality and back story as they related to peters growth as the ditto era gave way to JrJr era was far more important than her red hair. Hell her being a ginger isn't even important to her first appearance.
Exploratory
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Yo why is this so difficult.
It's very simple. Does the character have a physical characteristic that's important to their general identity? Is that character important to the main character or overarching storyline? Do you lose that with your casting choice? If yes yes and yes then you fucked up. If you didn't cast whoever you want.
You could make Lois Lane any other race and it wouldn't matter at all.
Oh, so this is how it is now? You're allowed to pretend to mod me and I'm supposed to shut up because I have a different opinion?
Zen_Arcade
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Its the most important thing to people right now because it's the only details we have about her. We have no idea what her character is going to be like in the movie, so we can't very well discuss any of her character traits because we have zero idea what her performance is like. We do however, have the details of what she looks like, and she's missing what makes the character visually memorable. So that's what we are discussing.
Seriously, it's not that hard to figure out if you pay attention.
DontBeThatGuy
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Good luck.
I mean, some or visual purists. That's understandable. Some people want Wolverine to wear this onscreen.
First person who can make that work on screen makes 1 billion dollars.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I get your point, but what other MJs have we had? Kirsten Dunst and Woodley? I don't even know if the latter dyed her hair because all her scenes were cut. So we've had a grand total of 1 actress portray her on screen. Hehe
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