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[FreedomFighter]

Clinton was heavy into pay-to-play.

Saudi Arabia and Boeing made out great under her State Department.

Clinton foundation is how you get favors.

Maybe GAF can put some money together and push for some policies from President Clinton #2?

 

[remist]

Doing a bit of research before posting/making threads would really help you out.

I knew he was a part of a middle eastern policy advocacy non-profit. It's in the article. That doesn't have any bearing on the fact that it was poor judgement for Clinton to allow him to plan her meetings.

 

[rjinaz]

Back to Clinton vs Kasich fantasy I see...

Clinton's oppo-research would find plenty of dirt on him.

Hey we have to let them have something. Look at what a mess their party is right now.
Let them dream.

 

[SecretDan]

Its strange how hard people are trying to discredit Hillary.

Actually by strange I mean totally predictable.

She isn't as bad as Trump so we should just leave her alone.

 

[digdug2k]

And what's the difference? That's a charity that clearly she's associated with. I still don't see issues with especially when there is no evidence of any wrongdoing. The only thing people reporting on this can say is that it "looks" bad, but can't tell you what she did wrong.

It doesn't even "look bad" unless you stare at it from 10 miles away and squint your eyes funny while you're looking backwards. But people will willfully do that because they'd rather see a scandal than something nice.

 

[Korigama]

Maybe not from this year's crop, but any of them in the past would have, and maybe even easily tbh.

So, Herman Cain would have then? You did say "any of them in the past", since you chose to sidestep mentioning anyone who ran this year.

 

[Clockwork5]

She is a politician, what do you expect.

They beg for money for their party, it's what they do.

 

[noshten]

I for one I'm ready to welcome our new, old, corporate overlords...

 

[Armaros]

It doesn't even "look bad" unless you stare at it from 10 miles away and squint your eyes funny while you're looking backwards. But people will willfully do that because they'd rather see a scandal than something nice.

Basiclly.

"SHE SPENT HER TIME MEETING LEADERS OF NON-PROFITS DOING CHARITY WORK, THAT JUST SO HAPPENED TO ALSO DONATE TO HER FOUNDATION, OOGA BOOGA".

 

[darscot]

I really don't get it, she meet with people to support her campaign, this would be normal with any politician? Is there something that is supposed to be bad here?

 

[Big Baybee]

She isn't as bad as Trump so we should just leave her alone.

She isn't bad it all. She is actually a pretty honest politician.

 

[Polioliolio]

Yeah, and I get Christmas presents from my friends. Big whoop.

 

[Pizoxuat]

Alternate headline: Hillary Clinton Did Nothing Wrong, Again

 

[Michael F. Assbender]

Another nothing Clinton "controversy."

 

[blackw0lf]

I really don't get it, she meet with people to support her campaign, this would be normal with any politician? Is there something that is supposed to be bad here?

And it's not even her campaign. It's her charity organization that is doing humanitarian work.

Clinton Foundation is the charity organization. It does not support their political endeavors.

 

[rambis]

Say what you will about ethics but Hillary was getting to it.

 

[diablos991]

She isn't bad it all. She is actually a pretty honest politician.

Bosnia snipers would disagree.

 

[Staccat0]

name me one Republican nominee who actually had a chance at taking Hillary

I can wait

I hate his fucking guts but I think we dodged a bullet with Ted Cruz.

You'll laugh and talk about how people hate him, but I think he was perfectly specced in the character creator to win against her.

 

[Big Baybee]

Bosnia snipers would disagree.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/

 

[zelas]

Continually seeing news like this before and after seeing people scream about how the media is treating Trump (or Bernie) unfairly just blows my mind. Like what other story has had this much effort put into it for years that continues to produce absolutely nothing.

 

[rambis]

And it's not even her campaign. It's her charity organization that is doing humanitarian work.

Clinton Foundation is the charity organization. It does not support their political endeavors.

Well its not always that peachy.

Charitible donations can come with huge tax breaks which the rich are obviously interested in. In the case of private charities, the person who owns the charity also gets breaks(correct me if I wrong). So it could be a case of the rich scratching each others backs.


Not to try and implicate anybody involved.

 

[remist]

To those asking the difference between regular hobnobbing with campaign contributors and donations to the foundation. There are FEC rules that limit the amount of contributions and prohibit foreign nationals from donating to political campaigns, but there are no such restrictions on foundation donations or Bill's speaking fees. Hillary acknowledged this difference and promised to keep a firewall between herself and the foundation. This is evidence she didn't do a very good job.

 

[Eidan]

Clinton's emails and Trudeau's elbow are neck and neck in the contest for lamest scandal of 2016.

 

[riotous]

Well its not always that peachy.

Charitible donations can come with huge tax breaks which the rich are obviously interested in. In the case of private charities, the person who owns the charity also gets breaks(correct me if I wrong). So it could be a case of the rich scratching each others backs.


Not to try and implicate anybody involved.

Giving to charities is a tax break, but you still... give to the charity, far more than the tax break you get. If you donate $1,000,000 you save $350,000 in taxes... a net loss of $650,000. It's a complete myth that wealthy people can actually save money by giving it to charity.

And charities don't pay taxes; so what are you even talking about?

The shadiest thing people do with private charities involves paying themselves a salary. IIRC Hillary stopped paying herself a salary when she stopped working for the charity (when she was SoS). The charity is a highly rated one, meaning it's efficient with spending it's money and aren't over-paying employees or having money embroiled in administrative costs. That's the type of thing a currrupt charity could do; say you run a charity and also own a construction business.. make your charity pay for a "community center" and then give your construction business the gig and over-pay. As far as anyone knows, The Clinton Foundation is free of that sort of corruption.

 

[Raiden1018]

She isn't bad it all. She is actually a pretty honest politician.

lol

Spoiler

Is there such thing as an honest politician?

 

[sprsk]

Where there's bad optics there's fire. There's something going on. Stop the election till we figure it out.

 

[Blueliner]

Bosnia snipers would disagree.

Dodging sniper fire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI1jewRx9ng

 

[Big Baybee]

lol

Spoiler

Is there such thing as an honest politician?

Well, honest for a politician.

 

[royalan]

To those asking the difference between regular hobnobbing with campaign contributors and donations to the foundation. There are FEC rules that limit the amount of contributions and prohibit foreign nationals from donating to political campaigns, but there are no such restrictions on foundation donations or Bill's speaking fees. Hillary acknowledged this difference and promised to keep a firewall between herself and the foundation. This is evidence she didn't do a very good job.

Why does this even matter? The is no evidence whatsoever suggesting that the Clintons used Foundation money to fund personal endeavors or that any quid pro quo was granted for donations. So exactly why should charitable donations be capped?

 

[devilhawk]

So, Herman Cain would have then? You did say "any of them in the past", since you chose to sidestep mentioning anyone who ran this year.

I meant nominees as would be obvious from my attached link.

 

[2MF]

The "Hillary can do no wrong" crowd is strong in this thread.

Note: In before someone accuses me of supporting Trump.

 

[Silver Arrows]

Clinton's emails and Trudeau's elbow are neck and neck in the contest for lamest scandal of 2016.

damn son what a throwback

 

[Trouble]

This gets 4/5 yawns on my I don't give a fuck scale.

 

[royalan]

The "Hillary can do no wrong" crowd is strong in this thread.

Note: In before someone accuses me of supporting Trump.

Well, for starters it would be nice if someone pointed out the wrong Hillary did.

 

[googleplex]

Well, for starters it would be nice if someone pointed out the wrong Hillary did.

Have a vagina and run for president.

 

[Eidan]

Clinton should have told that organization fighting violence against women in South Africa to get fucked.

"Sorry chumps, I have an election to win in 2016."

I'm sure that would have made some in here happier.

 

[Armaros]

The "Hillary can do no wrong" crowd is strong in this thread.

Note: In before someone accuses me of supporting Trump.

Please tell the classroom the wrong she did?

 

[diablos991]

Why does this even matter? The is no evidence whatsoever suggesting that the Clintons used Foundation money to fund personal endeavors or that any quid pro quo was granted for donations. So exactly why should charitable donations be capped?

Uh. I don't think that post is saying there should be a cap on charitable donations.

The post is saying Hillary didn't do a good job at keeping herself firewalled from the foundation and that she said she would keep herself firewalled.

 

[2MF]

Well, for starters it would be nice if someone pointed out the wrong Hillary did.

Taking lots of money from corporations and pretending that won't affect her decisions.

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...clinton-banks-oil-links-presidential-campaign

 

[Big Baybee]

Taking lots of money from corporations and pretending that won't affect her decisions.

What decisions have they affected?

 

[Armaros]

Taking lots of money from corporations and pretending that won't affect her decisions.

Again, show what decisions were affected.

Bernie couldn't

 

[emag]

Taking lots of money from corporations and pretending that won't affect her decisions.

Money being donated to a charity = Clinton taking money?

 

[royalan]

Taking lots of money from corporations and pretending that won't affect her decisions.

Do you have evidence to show that it has?

I mean that's kind of the point here, that none of these articles actually can it do show "corporate" influence.

 

[GameAddict411]

I'm going to vote for the one who doesn't lie and is not influenced by money.

So you don't vote at all I guess? lmao

 

[2MF]

What decisions have they affected?

Well she's not president yet. Let's talk in a few years.

But if you think for one second that corporations don't expect a quid pro quo when they spend millions on a candidate, I have a few unicorns and fairies for sale.

 

[Makai]

Again, show what decisions were affected.

Bernie couldn't

There was the decision to let a donor with no relevant experience on the security council.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

To those asking the difference between regular hobnobbing with campaign contributors and donations to the foundation. There are FEC rules that limit the amount of contributions and prohibit foreign nationals from donating to political campaigns, but there are no such restrictions on foundation donations or Bill's speaking fees. Hillary acknowledged this difference and promised to keep a firewall between herself and the foundation. This is evidence she didn't do a very good job.

The meetings between the Democratic presidential nominee and foundation donors do not appear to violate legal agreements Clinton and former president Bill Clinton signed before she joined the State Department in 2009.

It's literally evidence she did.

 

[Korigama]

I meant nominees as would be obvious from my attached link.

Bob Dole is 93 years old, no one's letting John McCain forget that he picked Sarah Palin the last time he ran, and Mitt Romney sank himself quite handily with that 47% crap. H.W. Bush getting a second term after all of these years also seems unlikely (or any Bush getting near the White House again for that matter).

 

[Armaros]

It's literally evidence she did.

reading an article is hard work my friend.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Well she's not president yet. Let's talk in a few years.

But if you think for one second that corporations don't expect a quid pro quo when they spend millions on a candidate, I have a few unicorns and fairies for sale.

Why are we talking about spending on a candidate. This is a not for profit that does no political work.