PS4 Pro specs revealed - 4.2TF, 8GB GDDR5, up to 310W power consumption
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Bustanen
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Power supplies aren't designed to run at 100% all the time. The Pro will likely draw around 200W during gameplay.
You wouldn't put a 300W power supply to a gaming pc either.
New rendering techniques such as checkerboard rendering etc. More advanced AA etc. Mark also said something about hardware so may have Sony's scaler built in.
Plus Neo is most likely up scaling from 1800p.
amstradcpc
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the box size is also way bigger than OG PS4 so the cooling will be beafier.Something doesnt compute.Jaguar clocked higher than 2,1 Ghz and bringing consumptions to the roof?.
Do you remember that these games are also being rendered at a much higher resolution?
Asking the real questions. We need answers.
It isn't AFAIK.
4 years from now we would have already have had the PS5 for a year.
sono
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Dictator93
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Kinda isn't actually. It is more like a "wash".
Almost as powerful? No.
PS4 = 1.8 TF - PS4 Pro = 4.2 TF
Xbox One = 1.3 TF - Xbox One S = 1.4 TF
JayWood2010
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Just as i thought about the Xbox One S. I dont really care. Will wait for Scorpio.
PS4 Pro and Xbox One S doesnt really seem like a big leap, and my PS4/XBO is good enough for me. No reason to buy another one of either.
However, I will say they are nice for people who dont own one yet. For me though, Im just excited for the Scorpio.
PS4 Pro and Xbox One S doesnt really seem like a big leap, and my PS4/XBO is good enough for me. No reason to buy another one of either.
However, I will say they are nice for people who dont own one yet. For me though, Im just excited for the Scorpio.
Early adopters are fidelity enthusiasts. They're the ones that will be driving 4K set buy in and media adoption.
Everyone else will just upgrade as their old sets kick the bucket, or they have sone extra cash for 10 more inches.
It's the same reason having the most powerful console at launch is important. The hardcore drive early sales, which leads to early leads, and charts the path of the market once mass adoption hits at lower price points.
So this weirdly is a sign that Sony isn't doing this for 4K adoption. After a conference when that's all they talked about
Which is what certain people have been saying. What we know from Lisa Su is that semicustom Zen won't be around till 2018, and low end APU's won't be around until the latter half of 2017.
So its a question of whether or not Scorpio is using Zen at all
THE:MILKMAN
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It doesn't need it but PSUs are most efficient when at 50-60% load. In this case that would be ~155-185W right on what power this console will actually consume.
Project Scorpio = over 6 TF.
Marty Chinn
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You're jumping into a conversation that you're not following because what I said has nothing to do with what you said.
But I will address what you said and streaming is worse. Streaming 4K is at a worse bitrate than a 1080p Blu ray and will either look worse than a 1080p Blu ray or not any better. There's a lot more to image quality than the number of pixels on the screen. Bitrate is a huge factor with image quality.
This is the only reason. People need to stop throwing around "upscaling" so freely.
Yes, it is upscaling to 4k. But no, that's not the same thing that the Xbox One S does.
The game is being rendered at a much higher res than 1080p. It will depend on the game.
Advanced upscaling techniques are being added on top of that.
Some games could be rendered in native 4k. These would be smaller, less graphically intense games. However, it is completely possible to render in 4k on the pro.
MisterXDTV
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When it exists, we'll know of its power. Until then, its over a year out and not even in production yet. Especially if it uses Vega, Vega won't be out until next year as it stands anyway.
Xbox one S is not even as strong as PS4 original. PS4 Pro is 2.3 times better GPU wise than PS4 and 4x better than Xbox One S.
Scorpio is also just an iterative unit, your hyping yourself up for nothing
Everybody upgrade to the PS4 Pro!
hahaha
And sell me your old PS4 cheap 
I get the front now, it's a heater guys.
hahaha
It's not that far away though. A PC with a 1070 can run on a good 450W power supply, and well be still more powerful.
Doubt it. I see it hitting near 6tf but not easily after another 399 price from Sony. It won't be over 6tf for sure.
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Deleted member 471617
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Has it been announced if the HDD is a SATA III? Thanks.
This. Twice the power (only on the GPU side) and launching 3 years later shouldn't usually take that much more power. I'm guessing they would have used a smaller chip manufacturing process, but couldn't because of complexity or the big numbers they needed?
Raiden1018
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Just 6
LelouchZero
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The GTX 970 is roughly 3x more powerful than the PS4's GPU, the PS4 Pro is 2.3x more powerful than the PS4.
It's somewhat close but not faster, the same situation with the RX 480.
OG PS4 used just under 150 Watts from a 250 watt PSU, nothing in the pro spec sheet suggests it will use more than 150 Watts so why increase the PSU?
Well it weighs 500g more and is barely any bigger so the majority of that will be extra material for the heatsink meaning the fan could spin slower and still cool efficiently while also being quieter.
The CPU should barely be registering on the power consumption. Finfet is far more energy efficient than 28nm and amd improved the layout of jaguar (sold as puma+) to reduce the leakage current. Unless there is a bottleneck somewhere 2.1Ghz seems pretty low anyway and I doubt power will run away till you get over 2.4, maybe higher.
DOT DASH DOT
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I don't remember them saying that, but it makes sense, guess it's the final result that matters! It looks comparable to native 4K gaming on my TV, pretty impressed.
rokkerkory
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This. Most devices/TV should support HDR10, and if they support Dolby Vision, they support HDR10 by default. (Any device that doesn't is being patched to fix that).
drangleic tourism
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What I want to know is how are competitive games like COD and BF1 going to run on the 4K. I have a 4K TV but it doesn't have brilliant input lag (not terrible either) and I'm considering getting a 4K monitor for some competitive games. But if anything competitive won't be ideal at 4K I may not bother at all.
Mineshaft_Gap
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Lack of UHD BluRay support really, honestly turned this from a buy to a pass for me.
I'll be picking up a used PS4 for cheap, if at all. I might sit out this entire console generation. XBox One is impossible to justify when I have a very good PC and PS4, while it has exclusives I actually want to play (Bloodborne), just doesn't have enough to justify the cost for the same reason. There are so many games to play on PC already that I really needed that sweetener to entice me into buying.
I'll be picking up a used PS4 for cheap, if at all. I might sit out this entire console generation. XBox One is impossible to justify when I have a very good PC and PS4, while it has exclusives I actually want to play (Bloodborne), just doesn't have enough to justify the cost for the same reason. There are so many games to play on PC already that I really needed that sweetener to entice me into buying.
Proelite
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It'll be 6.66666 teraflops.
MrOogieBoogie
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How would an i5-6500 + GTX 1060 compare to these specs?
Better. CPU destroys Jaguar, GPU much better too.
They're both better.
Bustanen
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Nothing? The GPU will draw more power even if it's 16nm. Also the CPU overclock will require more voltage.
You don't want PSU hitting it's limits because you get more heat and noise.
And it's AMD.
ubersticky
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Why would I need/want a 4k tv if it's just upscaled from whatever resolution? I don't get it. At first I was like... yeah I'll get a 4K for this but now that I read it's upscaled why....
Lol.
6tf of GPU power. I'm not even going to try and predict anything.
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