Very disappointed so far with the Xbox One S. What's going on here?

Raymo

Member
That seems very exaggerated. The UI is not that slow. (It is slow comparing to the PS4 though). It takes like maybe 1 second to respond and I'm talking about both the Xbox One and the Xbox One S. The PS3 store takes around literally a few seconds to respond.

OP, do you use Instant-On mode? I don't get most of the crashing problems, especially recently.

Yes, I do. However, most times I turn on the console it takes more than a few seconds. I get the green Xbox screen with the loading circles underneath. Loads right into tv like it should after that.
 

watership

Member
Reading Xbox One S threads feels like a rollercoaster to me who has that console coming in 3 days lol

99 percent of the OS complaints i don't have, except the lag/slowness issues. When that happens, it's frustrating. The learning curve on the OS is higher than it should be, but once you know it, you shouldn't be upset enough to post on gaf about it :)
 

MilkyJoe

Member
I've had an X1 for a couple years now and this pretty much mirrors my experience

I don't use it very often but when I do I usually have crashes, freezes, or just bugs in general of some kind when trying to do something.

I have a day one version. Not had a crash, freezing or anything like that... Hmm... Bad box?
 
The UI is laggy, slow and stuttery for everyone, you don't have a special kind of xbox one, you just tolerate it better than most.

I have an old xbox and it not laggy for me. Its only slow on start up once you first open the quick menu for the first time. That isnt instant for me. After that, it opens normally for me. Otherwise i dont get much of the "slowness" most people here are talking about.
 

SRTtoZ

Member
Snap is dogshit and has always been. I also notice audio stutters via headphones using the jack while installing games in the background. Still pretty surprised that MS couldn't be bothered to fix that MS logo splash screen freeze on MCC, as well as the achievements that feel like not popping.
 

ViolentP

Member
99 percent of the OS complaints i don't have, except the lag/slowness issues. When that happens, it's frustrating. The learning curve on the OS is higher than it should be, but once you know it, you shouldn't be upset enough to post on gaf about it :)

The number of times a game crashes on launch and the number of times installs get stuck at 99% is too high. These have nothing to do with getting acquainted with the OS.
 
The UI is laggy, slow and stuttery for everyone, you don't have a special kind of xbox one, you just tolerate it better than most.

The slow UI isnt what I was refering to.

So in other words you're cherry picking, you have a confirmation bias. If you look at all of the responses in this thread, then I'm right, the vast majority here confirm OP's statements are true. Therefore his experience is "typical" but in your eyes because you're ignoring what you don't like.
What?

The slow UI and party issues are known. The crashing and volume issues are not typical, otherwise it would have been all over this board.
 

ethomaz

Banned
I don't have to click the button every time either. Who the hell wants voices coming through their speakers? Push the button, it's done.
I don t know how you play but typical Destiny play session works like that to me:

- Solo: uppugled headset
- Party or somebody enters in you session, pug in the headset

I shift between solo and firetem over 5 times in 1-2 hours gaming session.
 

EmiPrime

Member
That seems very exaggerated. The UI is not that slow. (It is slow comparing to the PS4 though). It takes like maybe 1 second to respond and I'm talking about both the Xbox One and the Xbox One S. The PS3 store takes around literally a few seconds to respond.

OP, do you use Instant-On mode? I don't get most of the crashing problems, especially recently.

No exaggeration. Even after a lengthy load for the store app, when I select a game in the store it takes several seconds to react to each input I make on the controller. It's worse than the PS3 store and that was terrible.

I use Ethernet, MTU of 1480, 0% PL, open NAT and around 30ms on Titanfall so it's not my connection.
 

Kacho

Member
Snap is dogshit and has always been. I also notice audio stutters via headphones using the jack while installing games in the background.

Now that you mention it OS performance in general definitely takes a hit when you're downloading stuff. That probably explains the lag I was experiencing this past weekend with my Xbox S. I was redownloading 20 games.
 

Purest 78

Member
X1 was not designed as a gaming 1st machine,it was built as a all in one machine. It certainly shows in the OS Party Chat as an app, instead of being baked in the OS for example. Usually when things try to do all it's the master of none.
 
X1 was not designed as a gaming 1st machine,it was built as a all in one machine. It certainly shows in the OS Party Chat as an app, instead of being baked in the OS for example. Usually when things try to do all it's the master of none.

Dude honestly, that was 3 years ago. They had plenty of time to update the OS to make it more performing. It has nothing to do with how it was designed over 3 years ago. Its not as if the hardware they used is only good for multimedia and nothing else. A processor is a processor, a GPU is a GPU. That isnt an excuse anymore.
 

NeoTracer

Neo Member
Yes, I do. However, most times I turn on the console it takes more than a few seconds. I get the green Xbox screen with the loading circles underneath. Loads right into tv like it should after that.

I had a decent amount of problem with Instant-On. I know the PS4's version of Instant-On runs better than the One. I turn both of them off to save power. It works decently with it cold-booting every time, for me at least.
 
While we are on the topic, anyone hear a crackling noise from their Xbox One? It's not loud, but once I noticed it, I can't stop hearing it. The noise is still there even in sleep mode. I have the Xbox One Go.
 

CrayToes

Member
I may be imagining it but I feel like my experience generally using XB1 has gotten far worse over the past year. It honestly feels like shit right now. MS dropped the ball hard with the OS. I can definitely sympathise with the party problems too. Always have issues with them.

They need to start from scratch with Scorpio.
 
Yes, I do. However, most times I turn on the console it takes more than a few seconds. I get the green Xbox screen with the loading circles underneath. Loads right into tv like it should after that.

If I were you I would exchange it, because the only time I hit the green screen is if there was an update that didnt restart my console, which happens maybe 2 times a year.
 

CrazE

Banned
I don t know how you play but typical Destiny play session works like that to me:

- Solo: uppugled headset
- Party or somebody enters in you session, pug in the headset

I shift between solo and firetem over 5 times in 1-2 hours gaming session.

Are you guys talking about proximity chat then? Like hearing the other team?
 

Purest 78

Member
Dude honestly, that was 3 years ago. They had plenty of time to update the OS to make it more performing. It has nothing to do with how it was designed over 3 years ago. Its not as if the hardware they used is only good for multimedia and nothing else. A processor is a processor, a GPU is a GPU. That isnt an excuse anymore.

It's not a time issue The console and OS was built around All in one. Everything is a app Even the bluray player is a App. I'd assume the Cpu resources are tied up. If not why wouldn't they have changed it?
 

Fracas

#fuckonami
That's just the regular Xbox One experience.

Straight up miserable console. Glad I sold mine.
I can play Arkham Knight on my Xbox.

And I can run it at downsampled 1440p @ 60fps on my 1070. Why are we dick waving about random stuff, especially a year old game? Doesn't matter what you play on.
 

01DragonFly

Member
While we are on the topic, anyone hear a crackling noise from their Xbox One? It's not loud, but once I noticed it, I can't stop hearing it. The noise is still there even in sleep mode. I have the Xbox One Go.

mmm it could be a coil whine or any of the fans like the one in the power supply
 

pieface

Member
I've put over 300 hours into Halo 5 and FIFA16 and have never had a crash back to the dash in either game. Though, i'm not using an Xbox One S.
 
That's just the regular Xbox One experience.

Straight up miserable console. Glad I sold mine.
Strongly disagree. My experience is fast and snappy on my OG Xbox One. Location and Network are main issues with OS people are having. People can go to settings and go offline and then see how the OS performs to prove that. I believe this is the reason of such inconsistencies.
 

clav

Member
MCC makes the Xbox One unstable. You have to close it in a current running session or fully restart the Xbox after playing it. Otherwise, set the Xbox to energy saving startup mode as opposed to instant on since MCC will just run and ruin everything when resumed from a sleep state.

Alternatively, uninstall MCC, so you never launch it again in the future.

Such a shame that no one in the Xbox division cares about how it turned out.
 
Only issue I have with the OS is the input lag and some fetching lag since the OS is browser based. Other than that I don't have the OPs issues. Sounds like local network problems to me.
 

novabolt

Member
I see major bs in some comments. OP, I would advise you to take back the console and exchange for a new one, I haven't had those problems, the OS being awful is debatable though.
 
It's not a time issue The console and OS was built around All in one. Everything is a app Even the bluray player is a App. I'd assume the Cpu resources are tied up. If not why wouldn't they have changed it?

Because its more complicated then just updating what they have?
 

ethomaz

Banned
Are you guys talking about proximity chat then? Like hearing the other team?
No we are talking about the gaming sound changing from TV to headset when it is plugged and vice versa (it needs to go back to TV when unplugged).
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
Snapping TV in Europe will stutter because the main UI is 60Hz but the TV is 50Hz being reprojected at 60Hz. When watching full screen TV it can work in 50Hz mode

Basically makes snapping TV unusable for me, but then it makes it so small as to be pretty pointless anyway

Give me streaming games from Xbox to PC while watching full screen TV and I'll be happy. I'd even swap my white SO XB1 for an S if that was the only way to do it
 
These sound like a lot of the problems I used to get with the original OS on the XB1 from two years ago. Mainly it's not surprising to hear the issues with the MCC, that game still has problems to this day no matter what any apologists wants to say and works like some infection. Doesn't work well when switching between apps, especially party chat and causes lots of problems.

I have had those issues with Halo 5 numerous times, from the game refusing to connect to online from the main menu to booting me from matchmaking, to reqs never appearing. Game can be a total shit show requiring a hard reboot. However all these party drops outs sounds more like a connection issue, you may want to hard reset the console than manually reconnect it to the internet, for whatever reason that fixes issues I have come across.

Installations I have experienced that too but mainly because I'm in the preview and with the Movies and TV app, which recently as decided that it's file size is infinite, usually restarting the download helps with that. I will say that is really, really rare for a problem so don't expect that to be a big issue.

Store is slow and laggy as shit, truth be told it's actually better than what it was but recently it may be getting worse. That's the XB1's biggest issue.

Try plugging the console right into the wall, for whatever reason even the instructions say this, a lot of problems come from plugging into a power bar. The system has its own short circuit protection, now I don't do this but a bunch of XB1 users from the subreddit swear by it. Up to you.

If it's still a shit show after any kind of fixes I or anyone else mentioned just returned the bastard.
 

Kacho

Member
Could it be because I'm using a 4K tv? Maybe that is slowing it down too much?

I seriously doubt it. Games run perfect for me. Typical UI lagginess for me but I think that's mostly because I was downloading games in the background. Were you downloading games when you experienced these issues?
 

Zedox

Member
Yes, I do. However, most times I turn on the console it takes more than a few seconds. I get the green Xbox screen with the loading circles underneath. Loads right into tv like it should after that.

Instant-On doesn't show the green Xbox screen with the loading circles, that's a hardboot. Instant-On (in your case) should start off directly into the TV.
 

ViciousDS

Banned
its the damn OS.....it fucking sucks. I absolutely hate it, I'm not even on the preview program and after 2 years its only got minorly faster.

Really wish they would kill the 3rd overhead on those who wish to kill the TV portion of the system. Why must it always be able to freely switch to TV when over half of the xbox one owners probably don't even use it. Just like instant on and power safe we should be able to by choice kill overhead.

Seriously hoping they ditch the UI when Scorpio comes out because its just a drag on an otherwise good console.


Snap is dogshit and has always been. I also notice audio stutters via headphones using the jack while installing games in the background. Still pretty surprised that MS couldn't be bothered to fix that MS logo splash screen freeze on MCC, as well as the achievements that feel like not popping.

Dear god this annoys the shit out of me, downloading or installing games causes the sound to just go fucking whack through my headphones. Skips and crackles constantly.
 

Sydle

Member
Could it be because I'm using a 4K tv? Maybe that is slowing it down too much?

I've been using my Xbox One S for about 3 weeks now with a 4K TV and I haven't experienced the issues you've described.

As for the UI, the buttons shouldn't take seconds to register. Mine is snappy and most apps load quickly save for Netflix.

Oh and MCC is a lost cause. I would move on if I were you.
 

watership

Member
The number of times a game crashes on launch and the number of times installs get stuck at 99% is too high. These have nothing to do with getting acquainted with the OS.

The game crashing at launch never happens to me. I have had the game install problem but many many months ago.
 
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