2016 NFL Season OT - Week Three - Dylan Once Wrote

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This is a fair statement. I have always prided myself on giving Brady every ounce of credit that he's due but unfortunately as a man of science with an appreciation for fact-based arguments it's difficult for me to dispute anything you've said. Tom owes Bill literally everything, it seems.

I wish Tom had been playing against the Dolphins last week... :(

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To be entirely fair. He also gets help from the cameramen that the Pats employ, the ball boys and only Tebow knows what other instructions and agents of cheating that they use.

There is no i in cheat Red. Remember that. Its a team game in Foxboro.
 
But for real, why did they run on a 3rd and 8 in the 1st quarter? That's the kind of shit that kills you as a fan.

I was shocked they did that, I think the reason was that they weren't afraid of the Patriots offense and figured even if they didn't get a first they could pin the Patriots back and play field position battle with them.

Don't agree with that thinking or strategy, but it is what it is.

Edit* some people seem to have taken my long post relating Trump supporters to deflate gate supporters rather negatively, lots of salt.
 
I was shocked they did that, I think the reason was that they weren't afraid of the Patriots offense and figured even if they didn't get a first they could pin the Patriots back and play field position battle with them.

Don't agree with that thinking or strategy, but it is what it is.

I think it was probably more they liked the look the Pats gave them and called the run.
 
It worked once on like 3rd and 5. That is literally my dad's favorite thing in football, when a coach runs it on 3rd and long and gets a first down.

Other than to please my dad the only explanation for it is that they are scared ass pussies. They couldn't handle the dim lights of TNF or the pressure of being 3-0 and running away with the division in September.

That said you should always look for the positive in anything. And last night proved beyond a reasonable degree of doubt that the Pats are filthy racists, cheaters and that Brady is a sham system qb that couldn't even win the starting job at Michigan without help.

I'm pretty sure last night also proved that Brady likes deflated balls and that the Trumpriots were listening in on the Texan plays.

Sad!
 
Briskett gonna get a decent contract as a backup somewhere.

Jimmy even more.

I think Jimmy is going to be traded, I don't forsee them paying top dollar for him to back up Brady for the next few years.

Brissett, I see as the future here. I think he's going to stick around here and learn a lot from Brady and when Brady decides to call it a career and retire, Brissett will be the one to take over.
 
I was shocked they did that, I think the reason was that they weren't afraid of the Patriots offense and figured even if they didn't get a first they could pin the Patriots back and play field position battle with them.

Don't agree with that thinking or strategy, but it is what it is.

Edit* some people seem to have taken my long post relating Trump supporters to deflate gate supporters rather negatively, lots of salt.

tl;dr - I just saw Trump and Patriots. That really says it all.
 
I'm pretty sure last night also proved that Brady likes deflated balls and that the Trumpriots were listening in on the Texan plays.

Sad!
If they were listening in on the Texans I am sure they only heard Brock and BOB crying to each other about scary it was to play a primetime game with the chance of going 3-0.

"Please Billy, I know it is 3rd and 8, but I am just so scared of losing this game. Call a draw play please!"

"I am scared too Ozzy. I am close to shitting my pants and I was seriously thinking about punting on 3rd down, but instead I will take your advise and we will run it and just hope that this scary game is over soon. Everyone is looking at me!"

As much as the Pats like cheating I don't think even they could listen to that for very long.
 
To be entirely fair. He also gets help from the cameramen that the Pats employ, the ball boys and only Tebow knows what other instructions and agents of cheating that they use.

There is no i in cheat Red. Remember that. Its a team game in Foxboro.
This is true. I'd like to give Bill most of the credit as the evil mastermind behind the various cheating scandals (too many to list) but I forget Kraft is also heavily involved. It's difficult sometimes to filter through the web of lies to determine who is truly responsible for what.

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To be fair, I have no problem giving credit to genius when I see it. "Disputing" over suspending old man Brady for 4 weeks so his backups can lead the team to 4-0 and further elevate Bill B.'s legacy while also cementing Brady's system QB status before shipping him off to Cleveland? Genius... just genius.
 
"People" say that?

:lol

The only people who ever said that are the ones who are insane diehard/lifelong (since 2004) Pats fans who also like to spend a lot of time talking about how handsome Tom Brady is. This comes from the typical Boston insecurity when people were saying that Tom won but Peyton was better (going back to the magical day when they become Pats fans well over 10 years ago). As expected, they overcompensated and spent the next 10 years trying to paint him as the next Joe Montana. When in fact, Ben Johnson is probably a more accurate comparison....

Here at home (St Louis) there are plenty of people who would say that Bill is nothing without Brady. Are they right? No. Are they severely uninformed or ignorant? Absolutely! I'm just saying I hear it all the time. Now, during our radio show, looooooots of texts about how Brady is nothing without Bill now.
 
Good morning friends

This is true. I'd like to give Bill most of the credit as the evil mastermind behind the various cheating scandals (too many to list) but I forget Kraft is also heavily involved. It's difficult sometimes to filter through the web of lies to determine who is truly responsible for what.

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To be fair, I have no problem giving credit to genius when I see it. "Disputing" over suspending old man Brady for 4 weeks so his backups can lead the team to 4-0 and further elevate Bill B.'s legacy while also cementing Brady's system QB status before shipping him off to Cleveland? Genius... just genius.
I believed in VT against Tennessee and this is how you return the favor?
 
This is true. I'd like to give Bill most of the credit as the evil mastermind behind the various cheating scandals (too many to list) but I forget Kraft is also heavily involved. It's difficult sometimes to filter through the web of lies to determine who is truly responsible for what.

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To be fair, I have no problem giving credit to genius when I see it. "Disputing" over suspending old man Brady for 4 weeks so his backups can lead the team to 4-0 and further elevate Bill B.'s legacy while also cementing Brady's system QB status before shipping him off to Cleveland? Genius... just genius.
Bill doesn't hate the Browns.

When he trades a broke ass Brady he is somehow going to find a way to fuck over the Jets. And of course the Jets will fall for it.

Poor Fox...
 
It's pretty amazing that this team, the Patriots, are so well coached that even their 3rd string QB is able to come out and manage the game as well as he did. Not only did he complete a couple important throws on a few drives, he also had the awareness to not force the ball and to just slide instead of taking a hit.

The Texans will be a playoff team, no doubt. The fact the Patriots were able to shut them out and win without Gronk, Brady, Lewis, Hightower among others is a testament to how good this team is. Once they get everyone back, wow, look out.
 
The Texans looked completely sophomoric and unprepared last night. BOB looked lost and helpless. They were bad in every aspect of the game.

The Pats challenged Brock to beat them and he couldn't manufacture one scoring drive.

The Pats are the Pats, all the arguing about that is tiring. Texans just flat out sucked.
 
Are there people out there who are really serious with the whole "discredit Brady" because of Belichick's success? How can anyone with a serious face choose Brissett or Garoppolo to win a playoff game? Or a Superbowl game? You know they won't win shit. Brady is fucking Mr. Clutch in the postseason. The Patriots wouldn't be holding a single one of those 4 rings today if it wasn't for him closing out games and putting his team in position to win. How fast people forget Brady's 4th quarter performance against the Hawks in that Superbowl. Everyone remembers the Butler and Vinatieri but they forget it was Terrific Tom that carried those teams. The guy has more playoff wins than Montana. Belichick ain't shit without Brady. He would basically be Andy Reid 2.0 without him.
 
Are there people out there who are really serious with the whole "discredit Brady" because of Belichick's success? How can anyone with a serious face choose Brissett or Garoppolo to win a playoff game? Or a Superbowl game? You know they won't win shit. Brady is fucking Mr. Clutch in the postseason. The Patriots wouldn't be holding a single one of those 4 rings today if it wasn't for him closing out games and putting his team in position to win. How fast people forget Brady's 4th quarter performance against the Hawks in that Superbowl. Everyone remembers the Butler and Vinatieri but they forget it was Terrific Tom that carried those teams. The guy has more playoff wins than Montana. Belichick ain't shit without Brady. He would basically be Andy Reid 2.0 without him.

It's an inner GAF joke mostly. Bionic uses it to hide that his QB is a rapist and there is a slight chance Belichick is in fact the devil. Plus, people like to punch up to the best, no one shit talks the Dolphins because no one gives a shit about the Dolphins for example.
 
That's not true at all. People always say that. Now the narrative has shifted to Brady being good because Bill. Even though games with Brady playing are over 200 and games without him are 19 total, 13-6 record. But I guess they're comparable.

Edit: 254 games, 194 wins for Brady to clarify.

I know Patriots fans LOVE to invent narratives surrounding their team, but this is just going too far. No one has ever thought that Belichick was some mediocre coach who was lucky enough to ride Brady's coattails. He managed to go 11-5 with freaking Matt Cassel years ago.
 
Are there people out there who are really serious with the whole "discredit Brady" because of Belichick's success? How can anyone with a serious face choose Brissett or Garoppolo to win a playoff game? Or a Superbowl game? You know they won't win shit. Brady is fucking Mr. Clutch in the postseason. The Patriots wouldn't be holding a single one of those 4 rings today if it wasn't for him closing out games and putting his team in position to win. How fast people forget Brady's 4th quarter performance against the Hawks in that Superbowl. Everyone remembers the Butler and Vinatieri but they forget it was Terrific Tom that carried those teams. The guy has more playoff wins than Montana. Belichick ain't shit without Brady. He would basically be Andy Reid 2.0 without him.
I really want to agree with you.

But my stupid ass mother taught me to count at a very young age, and next week when the Pats go 15-5 without Brady (a known cheater) it is just going to be very hard for me and my fellow counters to ignore. I mean it is only like 1.5 seasons of football with 3 different quarterbacks, but still hard to ignore that when usually other franchise quarterbacks are out the teams are lucky to go 5-15.

I just don't have the ability of Pats fans to ignore things like rampant cheating, dirty plays or the racist things that Donald Trump says. Every man comes to a point in his life where he has to be honest with himself. I just don't have Bill's genius in finding creative pathways around the rules or Patriots fans vision to ignore what they don't want to see (like black people and facts).

Don't hold my weaknesses against me friend.
 
It's an inner GAF joke mostly. Bionic uses it to hide that his QB is a rapist and there is a slight chance Belichick is in fact the devil. Plus, people like to punch up to the best, no one shit talks the Dolphins because no one gives a shit about the Dolphins for example.

It's more than slight.
 
Kiko is gonna kill Kessler and we have to start Clipboard Jesus for the rest of the game.

You're not losing and you need to accept that.


Friend pls....we are totally losing


It's an inner GAF joke mostly. Bionic uses it to hide that his QB is a rapist and there is a slight chance Belichick is in fact the devil. Plus, people like to punch up to the best, no one shit talks the Dolphins because no one gives a shit about the Dolphins for example.


That's not true, Darkest and I shit talk the Dolphins all the time
 
Bucs legend Greg Schiano hit a cyclist with his car

Trying desperately to change the subject here...

He probably couldn't concentrate on driving because he was too busy trying to suppress the memories of allowing a child rapist to operate for an additional 15 years.
 
Man Brock is one of those guys who can look good if everything goes well but if anything goes wrong at all he just completely falls apart. Yeah he seems like the kind of person who if he wakes up and it's 72 degrees instead of 70 it like messes up his whole day. I wish we had footage or Elway watching that game last night. He must of been so happy.
 
Can we flex the Texans outside of these primetime games?
That be good for everyone here.

edit: Not sure how I would rank this on Texans' loses.

But Rosencopter is still tops for me.
 
...except the guy on the bike? Cmon Floy
He was in stable condition.. I forgot to put seriously.. What do you want from me Croc..


You know why this happened.. Because you didn't want to deal with me in the Taco Bell league :( and you took advantage of Gut I think

He probably couldn't concentrate on driving because he was too busy trying to suppress the memories of allowing a child rapist to operate for an additional 15 years.

That too.. God I hate him..
 
So here's what gets me about the whole Patriots thing. Living in Boston, I get a much closer view of the team than a lot of other fans, so I knew they were going to be good. Even without Brady, they added one of the best TEs in the game not named Gronk with Gronk, and they have been building an excellent defense. I thought maybe they'd drop a game or 2, but it was BB. Even without Brady, he'd be able to get some wins out of the team. They are incredibly well-coached and there's a lot more talent on that team than just Brady. So there's nothing crazy about them going 4-0, BB was going to have this team ready. That's not what makes this frustrating.

What makes this frustrating is that these games haven't even been good. It has not been simply a matter of BB straight outcoaching these teams in a good, tough football match. Instead, it seems like when these coaches face BB, they just shit themselves. Bruce Arians is a tough coach that runs a tight ship and keeps his players disciplined, or so we thought. Arians looked like he was expecting some JV team when they came to town, and wa completely unprepared for the game. The penalties, the undisciplined linemen, the poor playcalling. Same with BoB. In both of those games, the coaches' game plan was utter trash, and when it wasn't working they didn't know what to do. If not for Fitz bailing out Arians to make the game close, I'd be raking him more, but BoB deserves every bit of scrutiny. Calling a run play on 3rd and 8. Looking utterly lost in the halftime interview. Your punter (your fucking punter!) needing to yell at you to throw the challenge flag. The Texans have no room to shit on the Browns or any other bottom feeding team for the rest of the season, even if they do well and go to the playoffs. That was utterly disgraceful and one of the worst performances I've ever seen. Brock running around like a chicken with his head cut off and Miller running for 2 yds before diving. Like, is BB putting lead chips in their water coolers? Are they all huffing paint before the game? Like I said, there is no shame in losing to the Patriots, especially not in Foxborough. But the level of preparation and the quality of product these two supposedly elite teams with tough coaches was awful. The fucking Dolphins put up more of a fight than you. At least they tried. It is bullshit how the league seems to roll over when the Patriots are involved. If the Patriots are going to beat you, have some fight at least. After these two performances, we deserve to have the Patriots win the Super Bowl. The other teams are too fucking incompetent to deserve it anyway.
 
lol Apparently the new touchback rule has the amount of return attempts increasing
I think this was an obvious consequence (kicking teams being more reluctant to just kick it deep), which begs the question of how stupid the NFL is in that one year they want to reduce returns for safety and then they implement a rule that would logically increase them.
 
Man Brock is one of those guys who can look good if everything goes well but if anything goes wrong at all he just completely falls apart. Yeah he seems like the kind of person who if he wakes up and it's 72 degrees instead of 70 it like messes up his whole day. I wish we had footage or Elway watching that game last night. He must of been so happy.

Elway offered him a bunch of money too, folks act like he made no offer.

Pats did what they do to a lot of vertical teams, tight split safety coverage, make those windows small and force the QB to make reads. He looked at Hopkins a lot but the Pats weren't going to let him ruin the game, they pressed him, they played off and ran another defender underneath, and took him out of the game.

It was interesting to see Hopkins make a couple of early catches, and look over at the Pats sideline. A bit later a Pat defender broke up a sideline pass intended for Hopkins, and Bill was clapping so fucking loud/hard, right in Hopkins field of you. Funny to see, rarely see that from him.
 
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