Yeah, it really was a game changer for me. I brought my Wii U to my parent's house during Christmas holidays. My parents could watch TV while I played Earthbound. Was great.
Behold Nintendo Switch (March 2017, Hybrid w/ Dock, Detachable Controllers, Nvidia)
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Yeah, it really was a game changer for me. I brought my Wii U to my parent's house during Christmas holidays. My parents could watch TV while I played Earthbound. Was great.
My issue is this.
The main issue with the diminishing handheld space was the lack of a compelling argument why anyone would carry one in the age of smartphones. Handhelds were losing that argument. The "console style games on the go" argument was lost with Vita already, and people decided 99 cent smartphone games were preferrable.
What does this do to change that issue? What is the hook? People can play all third party games on more competent hardware elsewhere, and more portable games elsewhere. So you end up with the same problem as before, not compelling most of either audience.
At least that is how i see this playing out. Unless Nintendo has some remarkable marketing for the Switch.
Because why would a docking station with extra power be impossible? Pretty sure thats possible tech wise.
opticalmace
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I wonder how comfortable it is to use a single side controller... they look pretty small.
Psychoward
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Yo having the face buttons below the analog stick is some kind of satanic magic.I despise the misaligned left and right analog sticks. Why the hell would they do this to their Pro Controller when they executed it perfectly last-gen?
Mr.Monitor
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Parents are gonna have to buy like three of these, the design just feels like it's begging for some careless kid to destroy it.
Also I wonder if they're gonna do yearly tablet updates and stuff. Like you buy a bundle that includes the base, tablet, and controllers, but they release a new tablet every year or something.
Also I wonder if they're gonna do yearly tablet updates and stuff. Like you buy a bundle that includes the base, tablet, and controllers, but they release a new tablet every year or something.
Bruce Springsteen
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Is the older crowd who don't play games really going to suddenly get into gaming because of this?
Gormless Noodle
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Don't the controller parts have battery too? I wonder how long those last then.
And actually, do those contribute to the overall battery power of the console in portable mode? Is that even possible? Ah well, we'll see.
And actually, do those contribute to the overall battery power of the console in portable mode? Is that even possible? Ah well, we'll see.
BrianRoyale
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I had no interest in the WiiU, but man this thing has me. Not so much for first party(aside from the glorious looking Zelda game), but the list of devs that are working on games has me excited. From Software? Uh yes please, a portable Souls style game is what i've been wanting.
I think it is fairly safe to assume that most attachments will somehow avoid the battery issue
I find the Pro controller to be comfortable still with the symmetrical joysticks but I def am the most used to the Xbox configuration.
Psycho_Mantis
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Thats a bad name. Need to see the specs to see the chances of third party support.
Chezzymann
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I think it's way too big to fill the Nintendo handheld space. You'd have to always have a bag or a back pack to transport it.
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if this sells GameCube numbers.
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if this sells GameCube numbers.
dampflokfreund
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The hook is you can play full fledged AAA console games on the go which was not possible before.
Agent Gibbs
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Impressed really, thats pretty nice and a very novel idea
the most impressive thing though is how many people knew of this and kept their mouths shut! hot damn what was the penalty for breaking the NDA? their first born child?
the most impressive thing though is how many people knew of this and kept their mouths shut! hot damn what was the penalty for breaking the NDA? their first born child?
This is a remarkably salient point. This simplifies so much for Nintendo. They can bring the full might of the company on one device.
At this point, it really does not matter if they get good third party support: the damn thing will have plenty of games from them alone.
Fifa 17* is so good on iPhone 7. Well, no.
*Replace it by any big game you could play on the go just as well as at home.
Mine's going to be locked away in a cabinet and used only like a traditional console probably.
NOLA_Gaffer
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I feel really bad for folks that were buying Wii U games in anticipation of this thing being backwards compatible.
FROM has me day one with this no question.
LastCupOfSorrow
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I have also been experiencing this issue since after the Switch video released.
BoboBrazil
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Yep, I see this potentially selling the same as Wii U. This isn't going to attract anyone new. Underpowered console that will only be good for Nintendo exclusives.
That 'barrier' will be far lower with any smartphone or tablet.
Suzushiiro
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The bigger problem with having extra hardware in there is that it would make switching from TV to portable play seamlessly difficult/impossible, I'd imagine. Though one thing that would maybe make sense is the hardware required to stream gameplay to twitch/youtube/etc, as that's something that may not make sense to have in the main unit.
SweetTeddie
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That dedicated controller looks Ouya-level bad. I'm sure it'll work properly but the huge plastic in the center is ugly as hell. I'm really glad I'm not upgrading to PS4 Pro, my money's going to this.
exmachina64
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I'll say this, I'm much more impressed than I expected to be. Whether Nintendo can deliver in terms of price, games, and sales remains to be seen.
that's still more sales than Wii U.
Chezzymann
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Yeah, I'm trying to be a little optimistic
Odd? Who watched the trailer?
I find it quite clever, actually, to focus on young adults *for this trailer*
Kids and parents will learn soon enough about the console, and the kiddy image of some past Nintendo consoles hurt the appeal of those among young adults.
For the same reason, I'm not surprised we've seen Splatoon, NBA, Mario, Mario Kart, Zelda and Skyrim... it's a deliberate choice.
Not sure if serious.
entremet
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Well the Gameboy line was sunsetted, so more like 2 becoming 1.
Coulomb_Barrier
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I'm ultra happy and hyped for Nintendo Switch but my godness the dock with the screen in totally looks like a damn toaster!
Hardly.
I dont think that is actually the answer to the problem with the handheld market before though. Like does anyone think Vita failed because the games werent AAA console style enough?
I like it. Now I don't have to spend hundreds of dollars for a portable just for a handful of games. Now I get my console and portable in one set. I wonder if they will have a bundle for those who just want the portable stuff and I do wonder what they will do about the DS and 3DS games.
I hope the TV doesn't turn off when you used the screen control since I actually like having a map always on in the Wii U, especially for games like Zelda, Xenoblade X, and Splatoon. Although I have faith that isn't the case since Nintendo have shown they won't throw the baby out with the bath water since people just wanted them to utterly abandon the ideas the Wii U brought.
First impressions, the system is like what Nintendo wanted the Wii U to be, but they jump the curve too soon and the technology wasn't really there. It almost makes the Wii U look like a prototype. Which is fine, learn from you failures and take the best from it.
I hope the TV doesn't turn off when you used the screen control since I actually like having a map always on in the Wii U, especially for games like Zelda, Xenoblade X, and Splatoon. Although I have faith that isn't the case since Nintendo have shown they won't throw the baby out with the bath water since people just wanted them to utterly abandon the ideas the Wii U brought.
First impressions, the system is like what Nintendo wanted the Wii U to be, but they jump the curve too soon and the technology wasn't really there. It almost makes the Wii U look like a prototype. Which is fine, learn from you failures and take the best from it.
I am talking about older gamers. Clearly.
I am referring to lapsed gamers in their mid-to-late 30s, early 40s.
People who once liked playing more complex games, but just do not have the time or patience anymore to deal with bullshit.
If the device can essentially replace their tablet for the basics, then Nintendo may have a market here.
Dee Dah Dave
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The trailer featured the type of demographic who buy iPhones, not Nintendo handhelds. I think they are dreaming if they think 'non standard gamers' are going to buy this thing. In significant numbers that is.
Punchy4486
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What if in order to play 3DS or Wii U games on Switch or to play games like Four Swords Adventures (if they make any)... you'd need one Switch to be the main console hooked up to the TV, and then multiple other Switchs in handheld mode linked to it.
What if games that require a touch screen require a second Switch in order to play on the TV? Is that possible? Would Nintendo require people to buy multiple Switchs for that functionality?
TLZ
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But they don't have Nintendo games.
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