Coming from the PS4, I am blown away by the Xbox One.
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LMAO, no. please don't.
Bear Force One
Banned
Bizarro world. The xbone UI is clunky as fuck.
That is not normal behavior.
I constantly change my mind on the two, but it is rather which one I prefer, but grown to realise I think neither are particularly good.
PS4 is at least relatively quick and Xbox's although super crowded has a more logical layout and uses.
Xbox elite controller has decided which I play on though really.
PS4 is at least relatively quick and Xbox's although super crowded has a more logical layout and uses.
Xbox elite controller has decided which I play on though really.
It really does seem that way. You can navigate the Xbox gaming and social UI without even touching any of the non-game menus. There is little confusing about the layout.
Pimpbaa
Member
I like my xb1, but it sure as hell ain't for the UI. It's slow, unintuitive, and everything seems to have to load and open a new app (or window or whatever you would call the screens). I mean you mention the store is just there and don't have to open a new app, but almost everything else you do. I do love the controller however, along with it's battery life. Plus I love how quiet it is.
Samurai G0SU
Member
I also heard if that your UI experience is slow, it is because of a network issue between your ISP and the servers of Xbox Live.
I'm in preview, rarely i get hung up or have really slow encounters. the only time i can remember is when i went to the store and it took about 4-5 seconds to load.
knock on wood
. Few things here and there that could receive some love, but the feedback team are already working on it. Happy as can be as a consumer knowing the product i bought is continuously evolving. Same with my other product, my 4k tv. firmware updates are in the pipeline to improve features and that is appreciated.
the only menu i hated navigating was on the
I'm in preview, rarely i get hung up or have really slow encounters. the only time i can remember is when i went to the store and it took about 4-5 seconds to load.
knock on wood
. Few things here and there that could receive some love, but the feedback team are already working on it. Happy as can be as a consumer knowing the product i bought is continuously evolving. Same with my other product, my 4k tv. firmware updates are in the pipeline to improve features and that is appreciated. the only menu i hated navigating was on the
Wii
Same thing, I appreciate the Xbox One's UI functionality, but the speed and performance is really lacking.
I have the exact same folders' setup hahah !!
All in all, I still prefer PS4's UI for its responsiveness and simplicity.
Ok, I actually did hate that before they added folders. lol
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Another thing some dont realize is depending on what you used before it will have a learning curve.
Ask anyone going from Android to iPhone and vice versa. Whats funny is using Win Mo before Android, Android was alot easier to pick vs iPhone.
Ask anyone going from Windows to the old Mac OS. I havent used Mac in so long I have no idea how the UI is now. Or Windows to Linux. I found using Linux before Mac helped me with Mac.
Those wanting examples I posted one already:
A screen similar to this. (before this screenshot starts getting picked apart) At times I didnt know where I was in the menu. Am I on the left, center or up top?
The problem was the focus of where you were in the menu wasnt too obvious. I would think I was on the left and was actually up top. And vice versa.
NullPointer
Member
Yeah, I've run into this exact same thing a lot. Its probably something you just get used to the more time you spend with it.
I got an Xbox One about a month ago. The laggy nature of the menu and all of the visual noise make me never want to boot it up. It's disgusting.
I got it because I love the Halo and Gears franchise and I'm curious about a few exclusives. Sunset Overdrive being one of them. However I just can't get myself to play a single game on it. I get so frustrated by the lag on the main menu and I have no idea where my cursor is. Voice commands also don't really work.
I did love how easy it was to redownload any backward compatible games I had purchased from 360 though. I'll likely play some Geometry Wars in the near future.
I especially don't understand how people can prefer the Xbox One UI when you compare it side by side to the PS4 UI. Sony's is so snappy and clean. 1000x better. I often try to imagine the heads of Xbox showing off their consoles to their family/friends and being like, "excuse the lag...." It would be so embarrassing.
I got it because I love the Halo and Gears franchise and I'm curious about a few exclusives. Sunset Overdrive being one of them. However I just can't get myself to play a single game on it. I get so frustrated by the lag on the main menu and I have no idea where my cursor is. Voice commands also don't really work.
I did love how easy it was to redownload any backward compatible games I had purchased from 360 though. I'll likely play some Geometry Wars in the near future.
I especially don't understand how people can prefer the Xbox One UI when you compare it side by side to the PS4 UI. Sony's is so snappy and clean. 1000x better. I often try to imagine the heads of Xbox showing off their consoles to their family/friends and being like, "excuse the lag...." It would be so embarrassing.
I think PS4 4.0 update made this faster through quick menu.
Ever since the last update, my PS4 main screen has only six tiles.
These 2 posts is a good example. See how where you are is bought to the forefront and/or highlighted with a white outline?
Yea. I have said before its a cousins XBO so I do spend alot more time with my PS4. I just dont expect to make navigation errors if I use something more than once. The last time I have is using an iPhone. Last iPhone I used was the 4 some years ago. Its been either old Win Mo or Android for me.
I think Microsoft needs to fire their entire UX design team. Every last one.
The Windows anniversary update for W10 brought the most bone-headed design decisions to the W10 start menu I have ever seen. And we all remember the incongruous mess that was the entire W8 OS.
Same with the screenshots posted in here of the XB1 UI. Every single one looks like a complete and utter clusterfuck. Complete information overload focused more on their messy design language than actual usability. Less is fucking more.
How does that even pass basic user testing in this shape?
The Windows anniversary update for W10 brought the most bone-headed design decisions to the W10 start menu I have ever seen. And we all remember the incongruous mess that was the entire W8 OS.
Same with the screenshots posted in here of the XB1 UI. Every single one looks like a complete and utter clusterfuck. Complete information overload focused more on their messy design language than actual usability. Less is fucking more.
How does that even pass basic user testing in this shape?
Microsoft is probably still the better company when it comes to constructing a software backend and content distribution network. That's what happens when you have a company that's spent 30 years designing operating systems versus a company that's spent 30 years building appliances.
That said, as a PC owner I still have far more reasons to own a PS4 than an Xbox One.
That said, as a PC owner I still have far more reasons to own a PS4 than an Xbox One.
I seriously don't understand how anyone can prefer it.
Electret
Member
The PS4 is faster and more straightforward. These two qualities are arguably the most important in designing a good UI. Despite a few advantages XB1 has in this department, PS4's is easily superior.
That said, I'm quickly coming to prefer the XB1 controller, which does appear to have a higher build quality.
That said, I'm quickly coming to prefer the XB1 controller, which does appear to have a higher build quality.
This is probably because they have Engineers doing a UX designers job.
I totally agree with you.
Captain Zyrain
Member
I'm happy with the UI. I've never really noticed it running "slow" or "laggy" other than a few times in the Preview Program when they broke something.
Actually, thinking back, the Clubs / LFG was pretty slow to load, but I think it's still in preview, so hopefully they get that running faster.
I haven't use a PS4 so I don't know if its better or worse, but I have no issues with the XB1 UI. I thought it was fine at launch, and I think it's better now with the NXE.
I was using my kids XB360 a couple weeks ago, and.. YUCK. I can't fathom why anyone would want to go back to that. I think I liked the blades, but it's been so long I don't know if I'd actually enjoying using them anymore.
Actually, thinking back, the Clubs / LFG was pretty slow to load, but I think it's still in preview, so hopefully they get that running faster.
I haven't use a PS4 so I don't know if its better or worse, but I have no issues with the XB1 UI. I thought it was fine at launch, and I think it's better now with the NXE.
I was using my kids XB360 a couple weeks ago, and.. YUCK. I can't fathom why anyone would want to go back to that. I think I liked the blades, but it's been so long I don't know if I'd actually enjoying using them anymore.
paragonpro
Banned
Same sentiments, solid box with great games, but man that ui...i may play my ps4 (soon to be pro) less but its certainly more snappy
Magnetic_North
Member
Controller is god tier so comfy
I feel like I'm the only one that doesn't seem to have an issue with the UI? It's fine for me and works lol
Great console some amazing exclusives as well
I feel like I'm the only one that doesn't seem to have an issue with the UI? It's fine for me and works lol
Great console some amazing exclusives as well
ShadowkillXNA
Member
Almost every disk based game I've played on ps4 was playable within about two minutes of inserting the disk into the ps4 with only a few exceptions. You're flat out wrong here. Its a much bigger issue on xbox one.
So you're comparing screenshots instead of relying on actual experience? I mean, if you'd never used a PS4 and someone showed a screenshot of it you wouldn't know what any of it was either besides a giant nevernding row of squares.
People pine for the blades because it was the first REALLY fully featured OS for a console, but the reality is that they'd be virtually unusable today. The screen real estate was super inefficiently used and the actual pages themselves were messy. It worked fine then, but you would be unable to add as many features as we expect now without it just looking like a jumble.
It's not like the BLADES themselves did anything but take up a shitton of room on your screen while providing the exact same basic function as what the categories up top on Xbone do, they're functionally identical. In fact, the Xbone UI is closer to the blades in many ways than the PS4 or even X360 metro UIs. Instead of relying on rows of squares with categories of rows as the differentiator, it relies on 'pages' (or blades) with a much more freeform layout within each page to fit more stuff in there without it having to be a row or a column - As much as people like to act like this is a jumbled mess, things are always in the same places, things you want are always up front, and it takes far less button presses to get where you want than it would if you always had to scroll through shit. On either setup you're forced to hit 'right' a bunch of times to get where you want. Folders help on PS4, but you also are then just manually creating the Xbox one ui, except you STILL have to hit 'right' once you select your folder. a ton of times. Like, ok if you make your PS4 'games' folder have all your games, that's a shitload of work to achieve the exact same setup as what the Xbone already has, except instead of a grid now they're in a line. Cool.
You say you don't want the screenshot picked apart as though that makes what you're saying correct. IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO HAVE THE SCREEN LOOK LIKE THIS AND NOT BE ON THE LEFT. The rest is dimmed out as fuck, and your cursor is ALWAYS the highlighted object. The part that says Sign Out in blule? That's the cursor. If you're actually controlling this it's impossible not to know that (and if the person wasn't using a green profile background, it woudl be the only thing that could even remotely be interpreted as highlighted on the entire page). So, you have a 'specific' example that's just provably false. This is the shit that is infuriating about these threads man.Ok, I actually did hate that before they added folders. lol
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Another thing some dont realize is depending on what you used before it will have a learning curve.
Ask anyone going from Android to iPhone and vice versa. Whats funny is using Win Mo before Android, Android was alot easier to pick vs iPhone.
Ask anyone going from Windows to the old Mac OS. I havent used Mac in so long I have no idea how the UI is now. Or Windows to Linux. I found using Linux before Mac helped me with Mac.
Those wanting examples I posted one already:
A screen similar to this. (before this screenshot starts getting picked apart) At times I didnt know where I was in the menu. Am I on the left, center or up top?
The problem was the focus of where you were in the menu wasnt too obvious. I would think I was on the left and was actually up top. And vice versa.
thelastcrusader
Banned
Is this thread for real? Xbox One UI is terrible.
I'm honestly at a loss for words. I don't get how someone could think XB1 UI is messy or a clusterfuck.
What is going on? It's so incredibly easy to use... at least to me.
My one complaint is how slow it is, that's all.
Nothing about his comments came off as offended, he was merely pointing out your clear hyperbole. Saying you have to ease through TV and Media stuff to get to your content is factually incorrect and makes you come off as someone who's never even used the console. From the home screen you can get to your library with one right movement of the analog stick, or you can get to your pins with a pull of the right trigger.
I'm with you.
Just to illustrate how insane you and the person you're quoting both sound, and why it comes accross as sad trolling:
https://youtu.be/MSg1c-Kaqjg
We get a new Xbox One UI thread about every month and they all play out the exact same way (my posts included).
The only difference here is the OP is essentially a mirror image of the usual postOther than that? exactly the same.and he sounds like paid marketing
Ok. If they disagree with you they're paid shills? got it. Fucking nonsense.
It's not worth your time, really.
Laughing Buddha
Member
It's all about the speed in which you can do things, for me the PS4 is a much smoother experience overall. The XB1 is so sluggish even with Cortana or should I say especially with Cortana. I'm not really a fan of either interface, I think Sony and Microsoft need to rework them. Hopefully they get it right with PSPro and Scorpio.
LB
LB
NullPointer
Member
I have zero reason to troll the Xbox and every reason to provide constructive criticism of the product I purchased and use on a regular basis. Most recently with jumping back in for Gears 4 and Forza Horizon 3.
You don't have to agree with me, and you don't have to be a prick about it.
One thing I'll state is that though time and time and time again I will always say I'm baffled at the disorganized/cluttered/inconvenient/confusing comments about the Xbox UI... although I'm baffled about all of that (seriously at a loss of words), I've always maintained that the Xbox One UI is disgustingly slow.
Maybe the UI being slow is what makes people incorrectly attached qualifiers like disorganized/cluttered to the system?
I don't know.
What I do know is that Microsoft desperately needs to improve the speed of the UI. It is SOOOOOO gosh darned slow. Almost once a day I'll push the Xbox button to go to the dashboard and it takes 5 seconds to go. Or I double tab Xbox button and sometimes it takes 2 seconds to bring up the guide, and sometimes it comes up right away. Or I'm trying to switch between tiles using my thumbstick and it just won't switch because the UI is frozen, and then after 5 seconds 20 of my queued thumbstick attempts will animate on-screen really quickly.
And the Store... everything takes so. long. to. loaaaad.
Maybe the UI being slow is what makes people incorrectly attached qualifiers like disorganized/cluttered to the system?
I don't know.
What I do know is that Microsoft desperately needs to improve the speed of the UI. It is SOOOOOO gosh darned slow. Almost once a day I'll push the Xbox button to go to the dashboard and it takes 5 seconds to go. Or I double tab Xbox button and sometimes it takes 2 seconds to bring up the guide, and sometimes it comes up right away. Or I'm trying to switch between tiles using my thumbstick and it just won't switch because the UI is frozen, and then after 5 seconds 20 of my queued thumbstick attempts will animate on-screen really quickly.
And the Store... everything takes so. long. to. loaaaad.
You can't appreciate art if you can't understand the purpose of it.
Notice how none of them can back up their assertions. They're full of shit.
Bog
Junior Ace
For real. I thought he was being sarcastic.
Lion Heart
Banned
I was blown away as well...
at how bad the UI was
I don't know what games you're playing but I've never had any available that early. Got examples?
Dunno man that was pretty hard to tell what tile you were on, I wish there was some sort of highlighter around it to let you know.... how could MS overlook such an obvious feature?
Most people saying it's terrible and how confusing it is don't even bother posting back when asked what's so confusing about it. Like Yanger said it just comes off as sad trolling, sometimes when I read these types of threads I wonder if half the people have even used an xbox one. Like their "complaints" make no sense at all. The only legit complaint i've seen come from these threads is speed which everyone universally agrees on, it can get pretty slow at times.
OfTheOverflow
Member
Yep, this thread is exactly like the previous threads.
Also, I didn't call the OP a paid shill. And you sound really upset, seriously.
Well that's a title I never thought I'd read. Listen I enjoy my Xbox One. As my only gaming system right now it severs its purpose well but I'm really hoping they are planning another UI refresh come Scorpio. Also I'll never get over putting ads on the front on the dashboard when I pay for the console and Xbox Live Gold. I would love the option to hide the community tab and One Guide too. Plus I wouldn't mind if they just listed all my apps and games on the front screen like Apple TV or Roku.
As an aside, I really wished Xbox fans were more critical of Phil Spencer and Xbox in general. As far as they've come I still feel there's a long way to go in terms of quality first party titles, management of IP (hate naming and creating development studios for the sole purpose of one IP. RIP Black Tusk and Shangheist), user interface improvements, the Xbox App and windows store (should be a separate store for games), etc.
As an aside, I really wished Xbox fans were more critical of Phil Spencer and Xbox in general. As far as they've come I still feel there's a long way to go in terms of quality first party titles, management of IP (hate naming and creating development studios for the sole purpose of one IP. RIP Black Tusk and Shangheist), user interface improvements, the Xbox App and windows store (should be a separate store for games), etc.
BigEmil
Junior Member
Looks messy as hell and gotta navigate there with your cursor to know what it is also its not all in one home screen instead theres multiple tabs like on the top you have to navigate through, it should all be streamlined into one page
MemoryHumanity
Member
What the fuck am I reading? The Xbox One UI is atrocious.