FBI reviewing emails found on devices used by Weiner/Abedin
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Nah, the media has already begun to report this as a Comey covering his ass thing rather than a Clinton scandal.
It might affect tight down ballot races but the White House is still on lock.
SDCowboy
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lol No. Hillary will still likely win handily. It's the down ballot that may take a hit.
If trump wins I am handcuffing you to myself, nothing like a white dude to vouch for you.
They could just as easily bounce back... But people arguing that this was going to have no effect are delusional.
Keeps the untrustworthy narrative going, and the focus on her. Not what she wanted.
Oh this is definitely impactful. And she better hope nothing more comes of this. I'd expect this to bring polls back to pre "pussy" levels. Clinton +1 or 2.
excelsiorlef
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You think she's going to drop between 4 to 8 points from this?
Btw it was really the first debate that propelled her upwards.
I would be so angry if the dems can't win the Senat back. What a fucking waste of an opportunity.
This is what really matters. If the right has the majority of the seats then we'd be lucky if she accomplishes near half of what she says. So much stuff Obama wanted to do was forgotten due to the Senate shutting that shit down.
I don't think she'll drop that much... But she's already dropped to ~+5 before this broke. Might lose another point, 2 maximum.
Unless something else scandalous comes forward about Trump, this is going to be way closer than it should.
ABC tracking poll has her only up by two today. Dems should be thankful Gop nominated the worst possible candidate. Kaisch or even Rubio would likely be winning.
So I don't really understand what happened here? I feel like I'm massively misinformed on this one but this is basically what I got out of this;
During an investigation into Weiner ( completely unrelated to Clinton's private server ) they found 'emails' ( of which they have no idea yet on the contents ) and then made a connection to Clinton ( "Well, we don't know what's in these mails, so they could contain anything, so they could theoretically contain super secret information on Clinton's server." ) and then sent this letter about them reviewing new things regarding Clinton to Republican people only?
Is that interpretation correct or am I missing things here?
If I got that correct, how is that not blatantly partisan behavior on the part of the FBI dir.?
During an investigation into Weiner ( completely unrelated to Clinton's private server ) they found 'emails' ( of which they have no idea yet on the contents ) and then made a connection to Clinton ( "Well, we don't know what's in these mails, so they could contain anything, so they could theoretically contain super secret information on Clinton's server." ) and then sent this letter about them reviewing new things regarding Clinton to Republican people only?
Is that interpretation correct or am I missing things here?
If I got that correct, how is that not blatantly partisan behavior on the part of the FBI dir.?
StrikeNinja24
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Let's be honest, if it wasn't for Trump, it'd be Ted Cruz.
And he'd might actually be winning this race by now.
Democrats really need a gut check with how they pick candidates at this point.
excelsiorlef
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Democratically?
Should they have appointed the guy who got 3 million less votes by fiat or something?
Doc Holliday
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I disagree, those candidates would have run a campaign on the issues and Clinton would have destroyed them.
Ted Cruz? A man more hated than Trump by his party and equally hated by Democrats... Nice lol
Rubio got vaporized by Chris "Bridge Troll" Christie.
I don't believe that you can win on the issues anymore unfortunately. People vote on party lines and independents vote for who they like more personally. I can't explain why the race is this close any other way.
SillyEskimo
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Democrats seem to be on a winning streak when it comes to picking Presidential nominees. They should probably continue exactly what they've been doing the last 12 years.
Doc Holliday
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It's close because Donald Trump is a celebrity.
StrikeNinja24
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I'm talking about how we pick our candidates to begin with, not the primaries themselves.
We surely didn't pick Clinton and Sanders to run in the primaries, only which one we liked between them.
excelsiorlef
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SillyEskimo
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I'm not surprised your imaginary situation turns out how you imagine it. I'll be here in reality where Trump won the GOP nomination and Hillary has led him the entire cycle.
Sounds like the GOP needs the gut check.
StrikeNinja24
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Wasn't Bush in Office 12 years ago?
If this is even close, you'd have to worry come 4 years from now. Trump could very easily make this a contest now because the Democrats keep shooting themselves in the foot.
I said I think it would help. If you disagree, that's fine, but explain why with more solid reasoning.
It's close because the country is ultrapolarized. There isn't much room for voters to swing.
StrikeNinja24
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The GOP is on life support now. They have way bigger things to worry about now that their party has been exposed and splintered.
excelsiorlef
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It's pointless dreaming anyway.
You got a system that will pass the Constitutional amendment process?
StrikeNinja24
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That's the million dollar question. Was anyone ready, and the party decided to play favorites and hope the historic viewpoint of having a woman president would be enough, or does nobody else in the house want to put themselves through this year long mess of a general election?
CitizenCope
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God damn it. Still horrible news.
SDCowboy
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WTF? You think she's going to drop like 5-8 points from this?
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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I don't think Ted Cruz would've done that much better of a job. He's seen as a slimeball even among his own party. A big part of why Trump was able to steamroll was that his competition was a clown car of weak candidates.
Enter the Dragon Punch
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IIRC the US is still trying to get New Zealand to extradite him
You've got it backwards; the Democrats have run their strongest candidates, and these candidates have done very well for themselves. It's the Republicans who are running the yahoos - I don't think that a single Republican running for the nomination would have had a chance in the general. And with what you have to do to appease the patients running the asylum, it's not going to be possible for the foreseeable future.
What the Democrats have to work on are figuring out how to get their voters to the election booth during non-Presidential elections, and how to do better at the state level.
I think that the only question is when the Republican party is going to split. At this rate, they're locking themselves permanently out of the White House and the fiscal conservatives and neocons are going to get fed up with that.
The only Republican candidate who looked scary was Rubio, and that's before we realized that he's just a stuffed shirt.
excelsiorlef
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Yikes...
ok?
SDCowboy
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Yikes...
How is that a yikes?
bob_arctor
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Yikes...
"Yikes"?
SlipperyFishes
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Politics doesn't mean law.Yikes...
FrenchMovieTheme
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Silent Chief
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Or last 24. Nevermind that W stole his first term and used Iraq and fear mongering to win the second, anyone really misses the dude and the trillions he wasted?
Silent Chief
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Ethics in the White House, I presume.
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StrikeNinja24
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Right, but we are talking about voters here. They would of jumped on his straight edge conservative train, and there would be a lot less dirt on him than Trump. This has obviously become less about policies and more about a popularity contest than ever before.
Yikes...
Whats wrong with it?
excelsiorlef
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Heh, i usually don't pay them much attention
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