United States Election: Nov. 8, 2016 |OT| Hate Trumps Love

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Amen, brother. I was actually right-leaning when this election cycle started, but I didn't get to where I am now by being insulted. A fuckton of people are indecisive like me, and have now slipped onto the other side as a result of all this.

I am right leaning but 100% voting for Clinton. The "I'm a white male so I'm racist" stuff got old FAST and the far left needs to learn that does not win over voters.
 
CNN is so right right now.

All this talk about the Republican party imploding before the election, but now it's the Democratic party that is going to be upended for a long fucking time.

naw, democrats don't have an identity crisis. they're in the same position as the republicans were in 2008, except their usual demographics are growing.
 
I'm contemplating suicide. I'm serious.

Do not. If he wins (which is unfortunately likely), it is only 4 or 8 years at worst. I expect his shitty presidency will get a whiplash like Bush's had, which gave us Obama. I expect a long awaited Democrat rebound in 4 years. Still, obstructionist GOP assholes most likely keeping Obama's Supreme Court nominee out is making me seriously angry.
 
Things are topping out for Trump in WI, gap is narrowing and that is without additional reporting from Dane and Milwaukee. I predict Hillary by 30,000 in WI.
 
This is some real truth here, folks:
All the people who are very likely or even (ugh) probably going to put Donald fucking Trump in the White House tonight are not voting because they hate women or blacks or mexicans or whoever else.

Are people still pretending there's no way a significant portion of them were motivated by one of Donald's main talking points.
 
I'm jealous of people who can uproot their entire life and just move to another country. I can't imagine leaving my friends, family and life at the drop of a hat like that. For good or bad i'm staying in the USA.
 
This election is just like being a Falcons fan. You think you're up big and can cruise to the win and then you blink and you're down in the 4th quarter and have no clue what the hell happened.
 
Seems like game over. Fuck, this is depressing.

Even if Clinton somehow wins by a miracle, the fact that half the country voted for someone like Trump is really sad...
 
What I'm wondering now, is how can we have a meaningful progressive impact as far as politics go? Federally, we're fucked. But now I feel the urge to fight at the local level more than before.
 
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TRUMP WINS FLORIDA!!!! My fucking home state gets it right!

Very happy with the results thus far. Fingers crossed he pulls this off.

Absolutely agree. The sense of liberal smugness that we've seen for the past few years, the silencing tactics that we've seen deployed, the whole notion that they're right because they say they're right...I think all of that is coming home to roost right now. This is America saying no, we reject that.

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I, for one; welcome our new Russian overlords.

There's not a human being without fault or mistakes. Every single one of us have skeletons in our closet that we are ashamed of. The thing with Trump is that while he might stick his foot in his mouth, at least he keeps it real, more real than any other politician of recent years.

This is why Trump has such a HUGE following and the votes prove that, no doubt. People want change, people are tired of the same old same old. Trump has the backbone and insight to change this economy!!!

GO TRUMP!!!

Where are those neat hillary avatars?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkBMAHUkibY


I've waited years for the perfect moment to use this.

Stick a fork in it guys.

It's president trump for the next four years.

NC FOR TRUMP HAHAHAHALOL

YAASS QUEEN slayyyyy


Lmao

This is the most satisfying thing I've ever seen!


But the polllllls

OMG Trump just won Wisconsin! Go Trump!
Compilation of all the closet trump supporters, I couldn't be arsed to keep up with the thread. Thanks for supporting a bunch of repugnant shit. -_-
 
This is it right here. My view of the silver lining in this is that it can be seen as a rebuke of the progressive left that screams at, labels, and demonizes anyone who disagrees with them. You can only shit on uneducated white people so much before they won't take it anymore. There are A LOT of them, and they vote.

We talking about the same progressive left that loathes Clinton and pretty much everything she stands for?
 
So realistically, how much can they fuck up in 4 years?

ACA is dead. People with pre existing condition will now not get healthcare. Don't have money? Tough shit. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps, if you can even stand up. Potential for Medicare to be turned into a voucher program.

Immigration reform is dead. Some form of increased border presence will absolutely happen. Even if it is just an expensive ineffectual wall. Deportations of some measure will happen. Anti-immigrant sentiment will become more accepted and normalized. If you are hispanic you are going to have a rough time. Muslim? Good luck.

Conservative SC for a generation or more. Expect to see more rulings in the vein of Citizens United. Corporations will be cemented as people and they have more money and power than you. Oh and forget about restoring the VRA. Voter suppression of minorities will continue throughout the country. Gay marriage is probably unlikely to be affected but negative rulings against transgender rights may be common place at least at the state level. Republican gerrymandering will continue further cementing control across the country.

Foreign policy wise expect the US to get more heavily entangled in the middle east and a George W. Bush level x 100 of general disrespect toward our allies. Also expect to see a level of nationalist fervor unprecedented in American politics. Putin will be given free reign. We will also see unnecessary and potentially massive increases in military spending. Potential is also here for American forces to support goals that more align with Putin's than the overall wishes of NATO. Any hopes for "small" government will be eradicated by money thrown away in foreign entanglements.

As for the economy Trump is not going to help working class people in places like Michigan. Their jobs are not coming back. The Republican party will not spend the money necessary to help them retrain and enter new fields. Creating a green manufacturing industry was one possible way for this happen. It won't. Trump believes global warming is a conspiracy created by the Chinese.

Taxes will be cut drastically for the 1%. This will further exacerbate the divide between the rich and poor. There will not be an increase in the minimum wage. Government will continue to subsidize the wages of companies like Walmart with food stamps, medicaid and other welfare programs. The people that voted Trump will be the ones most affected by this and they will just blame minorities. Many will also now go without healthcare as the ACA will be destroyed, leaving those that qualified for medicaid or subsidized care without options. They will just blame minorities and many will blame Obamacare long after its dead.

As far as the American political climate Trump's election will make the white nationalist candidate commonplace. You will see many mini-Trumps at the state level across the nation. Qualifications for office like experience in law or politics on some level will now be considered as not required. Celebrities will more likely to run and more likely to win. The American people will reward Republicans for a functioning government not caring that the only reason it is functioning is that Republicans are in full control and no longer obstructing everything.

Following this in 2020 America will re-elect Donald Trump
 
Great post that I agree with 100%. I've served several GAF bans in the past for trying to say the same thing far less eloquently. If you demonize an entire group of people don't expect them to come around. You do have to change people's minds. You can't just make snarky remarks and tell them to educate themselves. The price of progress is you have to work for it. And yes, it's exhausting.

Which is absolutely impossible when the side that needs to be changed isn't interested in facts.

What are we supposed to do? If we look at racism, sexism, and bigotry, and treat all of that like it's in any way legitimate, that's not going to help, that's going to make things worse. That's part of how we got where we are now - the media held up Trump as Hillary's equal, when he isn't even close, and his surrogates were given just as much if not more screen time as hers.
 
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