No, you don't believe in protesting , your previous post proves exactly. Also, nice assumptions you have going on there. How in the fuck do you know they didn't work hard for Hillary or donated money?
Protests against Trump in NYC and other cities
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DragonSworne
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I really do hope all these people voted.
My brother is going to the inauguration protest, wish I could join him but I don't live in the DC Maryland area anymore.
My brother is going to the inauguration protest, wish I could join him but I don't live in the DC Maryland area anymore.
Enter The 36 Chambers
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Seems your the one assuming.
I understand emotions are high, but at least be reasonable.
I dunno, as someone who has been dealing with the fallout of the Brexit result in the UK the last few months, and have seen how both the government, the press, and part of the electorate have been trying to erase the fact that it was a very narrow win, I think it's important to keep reminding those in power that a significant portion of the population disagrees with them. Particularly given the way the power structure in the US has landed following this election cycle, the only practical way of ensuring that there's any kind of moderation in their actions is to remind them that there are people who oppose their point of view and will punish the GOP come 2018/2020.
are you saying peaceful protest isn't reasonable?
You're the one that came in here and started being against a legitimate protest of people with legitimate grievances.
The people voted for Clinton. So no, this outcome of the election is not what people wanted.
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No I'm speaking directly to the poster I quoted.
The people voted Hitler, too.
He lost the popular vote, and it's been noted that several of the swing states he won had their voting suppressed by the voter ID laws designed specifically to damage democrat votes.
Fantastapotamus
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Man, this thread is blowing my mind. Are protests really that rare in the US that they immediately seen as unreasonable? A bigoted, racist, sexist and dangerous man is now president and nobody expected that some people would protest?
Enter The 36 Chambers
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This seems like excuses and bordering on conspiracy theory territory.
The whole world is shocked he won. But he did win. The protests should be about the electoral college.
Look at how many people didnt even vote. The peoole are to blame more than anyone
The will of the public. Hmm, did you know that Hillary is winning the popular vote?
Tal Shiar Agent
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If it's not just white men protesting it's unreasonable.
Fantastapotamus
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Have people in the US really never protested somebody? Again, I'm just surprised cause protests are a pretty normal thing were I live. (It's not like 500.000-people-on-streets protests, but protests nonetheless). It's a thing you do to show the world and your government that there are people who oppose whatever they are protesting. It's not a call for anarchy.
Pai Pai Master
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The protests don't have to be about the process itself. I believe his victory was legitimate, but if he lost the popular vote it means the majority of Americans did not vote for him. So even if he will be president, that's still a large number of Americans who need to make sure they are properly represented in his new government. And protesting is a completely valid part of that process. It is a fundamental part of our democracy.
There is absolutely no point in staying quiet and hoping that the new Republican government does not start trampling on our rights. We already know that is what they plan to do, so now is the time to organize and be heard.
Bush and Obama both had protests against their administrations, this is nothing new.
Psychoward
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Same bullshit rhetoric popped up against Brexit protests.
Agree with you completely, though I do have friends that can't vote that still want to be heard.
Trump needs to see that his shit has not been forgotten. Just because he is smiling and playing nice right now and Obama and other leaders have their smiles on and trying to push that unity and support horse shit does not mean that the people accept him.
Again this is not just about Trump winning, people understand he won within the system.
But there is also the factor of more votes for Clinton.
There is also rage against the system itself for presenting these two assbags as our options. For the horse shit that the Democratic party played, for the FBI garbage, for outlets withholding Trump news, for the hacks that manipulated the election blatantly.
There is a long list of things that went wrong.
But the most important is letting Trump know every day that he is not tolerated, his ideals are not accepted and if he continues on the course of action of the platform that he ran on the people WILL fight.
Voter ID laws in NC were directly found to be unconstitutional and aimed squarely at suppressing black voters by a judge, and struck down. This is not a conspiracy theory, this was a strategy, and it worked.
Enter The 36 Chambers
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I didn't read anything about this so I'm entirely uninformed.
If that is the case then that is absolute horseshit. Incredible that this even happened in this day and age with social media reporting everything that goes on.
What were the ID laws? A particular ID needed to vote or what?
DunderHassan
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Not really, the people voted Paul von Hindenburg.
He died during the presidency, that's when Hitler got all the power.
RPGCrazied
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Hope this happens every night his entire term. Protest the white house too once he is in.
Fantastapotamus
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Also, "I bet a fair amount of them didn't even vote" is a dumb way to try and discredit them.
How many people are out there right now, let's be SUPER, SUPER generous and say 2 million. It's probably not even one right? But whatever. You realize ~60 million people voted for Clinton, right? So is the idea that around 0,033% of Clinton voters are out there really that absurd?
It's not like there are 58 million people out there right now. It's still a tiny percentage.
How many people are out there right now, let's be SUPER, SUPER generous and say 2 million. It's probably not even one right? But whatever. You realize ~60 million people voted for Clinton, right? So is the idea that around 0,033% of Clinton voters are out there really that absurd?
It's not like there are 58 million people out there right now. It's still a tiny percentage.
Tal Shiar Agent
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Hopefully thousands and thousands of people will surround the Capitol during the inauguration and completely drown out the proceedings.
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I marched in NY from Union Square to Trump Tower. Lots of people were lined up on the side of the road cheering. There were quite a few drivers stuck in the road, who I did feel bad for, but lots of them were also smiling, cheering, honking in rhythm.
People don't like Trump here, for good reason. I don't like him. I voted for Bernie and then Hillary. I accept the results of the election, but I don't support Trump as president and I don't plan on pretending that I do. I don't support the crew of grifters he's brought into power with him, nor do I support the policies they plan on putting into place. I don't support that an avowed sexual assaulter will make it into the White House without consequence. I don't support the fact that he fueled his campaign on fear of people who are different.
The outgoing leadership and the losing party are responsible for making sure the transition of power goes smoothly, because it's essential to the functioning of our democracy. But we as citizens have no such responsibility. If the team you can't stand wins the Super Bowl, do you suddenly have to become a fan of them?
The party that encouraged and exploited disunity to get elected doesn't get to enjoy the privilege of unanimous support upon election.
People don't like Trump here, for good reason. I don't like him. I voted for Bernie and then Hillary. I accept the results of the election, but I don't support Trump as president and I don't plan on pretending that I do. I don't support the crew of grifters he's brought into power with him, nor do I support the policies they plan on putting into place. I don't support that an avowed sexual assaulter will make it into the White House without consequence. I don't support the fact that he fueled his campaign on fear of people who are different.
The outgoing leadership and the losing party are responsible for making sure the transition of power goes smoothly, because it's essential to the functioning of our democracy. But we as citizens have no such responsibility. If the team you can't stand wins the Super Bowl, do you suddenly have to become a fan of them?
The party that encouraged and exploited disunity to get elected doesn't get to enjoy the privilege of unanimous support upon election.
RPGCrazied
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I really hope it gets so bad he can't take office. Truly.
watermelons
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That happened months ago.
Master Yoshi
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Fuck accepting the results. I'm in support of 4 years worth of protesting. Let's shit all over this campaign, I don't care if it further radicalizes white people next election cycle. Nobody should just fall in line behind this unpredictable monster.
Dubbedinenglish
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Less polling stations, voter rolls purged, less early voting. It was targeted at minorities in hope of making it harder to vote. It worked
Spanx McFranks
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It sucks Trump won, but it was democracy at work. Protesting his win is protesting democracy. Get over it, focus on voting in the midterm elections and vote again in the next presidential election.
Psychoward
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I don't think you know the definition of democracy.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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yeah, nothing says democracy like swing states being decided by voter suppression tactics.
Voter suppression is a very real thing. African American early voting was down 9% in North Carolina because they banned early voting on Sundays because their churches were bussing them to the polls on Sundays.
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Adam_Vania
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i've got friends that were protesting last night in Chicago and NYC.
it was pretty inspiring. looking at those photos i realized a whole lot of people were looking forward to partying to celebrate the first woman president. that was taken from them so they had to express themselves some other way.
so while i know there's "no point" to it, there was definitely a bunch of stored up energy that needed to be expressed. i imagine we will see a lot of protests over the next 4 years.
it was pretty inspiring. looking at those photos i realized a whole lot of people were looking forward to partying to celebrate the first woman president. that was taken from them so they had to express themselves some other way.
so while i know there's "no point" to it, there was definitely a bunch of stored up energy that needed to be expressed. i imagine we will see a lot of protests over the next 4 years.
I'm aware. NC is not the only state with Voter ID laws, just the one that had a judge look at the laws and deem them unconstitutional.
NC also had other laws and changes aimed at suppressing minority votes in addition to the ID laws.
Fuck right off. Don't spout your advice without actually knowing what you are talking about.
CrocMother
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And occupy Wall Street
She won the popular vote by 1%. However, that doesn't matter. The ec does and that isn't going anywhere.
Doesn't change the fact EC is going against the will of the people. Clinton's lead will also be bigger than 1% when every vote finishes being counted.
Pai Pai Master
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The electoral college electing trump does not mean their votes and voices don't matter
She lost. But voter suppression is real, it is racist, and it made it harder to vote in WI, FL, NC, OH and MI especially.
RPGCrazied
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Protest not to vote helped in getting him elected? Yeah, pretty disgraceful if you ask me.
Enter The 36 Chambers
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The voter ID controversy I certainly wasn't aware of.
I'm more surprised it didn't get more traction and become a bigger issue. I'd imagine in some countries it would be a massive scandal and maybe even constitute a second round of voting.
Fixed2BeBroken
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the suppression of votes due to not having the full voting rights act isn't a conspiracy or theory...it's just a fact. to act like it isn't is just sheer ignorance.
https://www.thenation.com/article/t...hts-was-the-most-under-covered-story-of-2016/
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/20...orth-carolina-after-cuts-early-voting-n679051
http://theweek.com/articles/659599/first-election-without-full-voting-rights-act--already-disaster
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