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[amnesiac]

I regret upgrading from the last version. It feels like they've added an extra step to everything.

My biggest annoyances:

1. No normal swipe to unlock. This sucks if you don't like using Touch ID.

2. Giving the music controls their own page in the Control Center. If you're browsing the web or something and need to change the track, you used to be able to just swipe from the bottom and hit the forward button. Now you have to swipe from the bottom, swipe the whole control center, then change the track. It's terrible.

3. This might have changed in an update before, but when you used to click on a link in Safari that opened a new tab, it would do a little animation that showed you that a new tab was opened. Now it just loads a page normally and you can't tell if a new tab was made.

 

[kiguel182]

I've had zero issues so far. Sucks that you are having these many problems. Maybe a full system reset might help.

 

[soco]

There's a lot of things getting in there without being tested with people. I suspect they've lost the more experienced UX researches and designers who were around on the team, and they've definitely lost their clear direction. I've heard it's gotten pretty nasty within the company.

 

[Figgles]

The battery percentage dropping quick to dead thing is probably a battery problem. I had that back in the day on my iPhone 5 in like
iOS 7. Replaced the iPhone through apple and everything was back to normal

iOS 10 has been great for me. Was on a 6 and now on a 7 and everything works great. Maybe there are some auto correct issues though just cuz I thought I noticed more incorrect sentences and shit that I have to correct later

I'm not so sure about that. It could just be coincidence, but the problems didn't start for me, until I updated my phone.

 

[Leona Lewis]

There's a lot of things getting in there without being tested with people. I suspect they've lost the more experienced UX researches and designers who were around on the team, and they've definitely lost their clear direction. I've heard it's gotten pretty nasty within the company.

Obligatory Steve Jobs telling the future of current Apple

It's almost eerie.

I guess one difference is that Apple still cares about design. It's just forgotten that design is more than just about how many millimeters you can shave off a chassis, and that software is sort of important to the user experience too.

 

[Souless_PJ]

I haven't had a single issue on my 7 Plus so obviously YMMV. And that's using a backup that has roots all the way back to a 3G not even a fresh install.

 

[Roo]

I hate that the symbols keyboard doesn't always switch back to the text keyboard after a comma. That is some bullshit.

The worst offender BY FAR.
Who the hell thought it was a good idea?

 

[Voidance]

The worst offender BY FAR.
Who the hell thought it was a good idea?

I like iOS 10 quite a bit, but this annoys me so much. Years of muscle memory down the drain.

 

[Any Questions]

It's the reason I bought a PC. My iMac got slower and slower. Then it imposed Photos on me so when we attached cameras and phones all our data got instantly installed to photos. NO! I use CS5 and Bridge. Getting my original files and not copies meant exporting them so now I had two copies. WTfukkertyFF is all this. Forcing me into this shared world.

It's worst then when the xbone got released in trying to data mine you in the name of making your life shared.

Worse if your hardware is a few years old. Hard cheese you cheapskate and buy new as we make each new iOS more complicated and resource heavy. So your older pice of kit is now unworthy.

Never going back. Windows 10 so far is lovely

 

[Omni]

The music app is trash. HOW DO YOU RUIN SOMETHING LIKE THAT

 

[Omikaru]

iPhone 6s 64gb here, and while I don't have all of the problems the OP has, I have had some issues.

- Typing is a nightmare. I used to be able to type perfectly on my phone but recently I feel as if autocorrect is correcting every other word. Not sure if they've subtly altered the layout of the keys or not, but it's making me want to switch to a third party keyboard.

- Music app is shit. It feels like it's railroading me into using Apple Music or, at the very least, music stored in the cloud. It has little respect for the fact that I only want to play music located only on my iPhone, and makes me navigate several menus to get to it.

- A weird TouchID issue where my device suddenly demands that I enter my passcode instead of unlocking via fingerprint, though I suspect that may be that my device is crashing in my pocket/bag and I'm not realising.

I've had very few problems on my iPad Air 2, conversely. And macOS Sierra runs fine on my Mac Mini 2012 and 2015 MacBook Pro, and watchOS3 has had few issues with my Apple Watch. However, iOS 11 should be focused on fixing the bullshit before they consider new features. There are now layers upon layers of issues that they haven't resolved.

As I said in the 2016 MacBook Pro moaning thread, I dunno what's going on with Apple at the moment. They're making silly mistakes in terms of the OS, and their hardware has some head-scratching decisions as of late. I hope they pull their finger out or I'll be switching away from Apple when my devices are due an upgrade.

 

[Vamp]

What's bad about the new alarm app? I'm on iOS 8 and use alarms constantly. Don't want to get a phone running iOS 10 if it's that bad.

Nothing is wrong with the alarm, everything is same except the background is black now.

 

[kingdaddy157]

IOS 10 works perfectly on my 7+ I was having an issue with iOS 10 on my 6S where the phone would turn off even when I had like 40% of battery left and I would have to plug it in so it can turn back on.

 

[Stilton Disco]

It's been getting steadily worse and less user friendly since at least iOS 7, but 10 is just awful. All the apps and UI are more difficult to use, buggy and often missing or hiding features I used to use regularly.

It's also basically fucked my fiancées iPhone 5C. Every time she charges it since the update she has to then turn it off and on again otherwise she can't make or receive calls or messages. We've tried factory restring it, which seemed to solve the problem for about a week, then it started doing it again.

I've already been driven off to Android, and as she's ready to upgrade again too, she's seriously considering ditching Apple as well now.

 

[Dougald]

Visually it's definitely a step back - feels like they just changed things because they felt they had to, rather than because they work better

Performance wise though, if anything it's better. I'm running the same phone as the OP

 

[31GhostsIV]

I'm hanging on to my 6+ 128 gb until it runs into the ground, trying to break the habit of pointless upgrades at the end of a contract (there's absolutely nothing the 7 does that makes me feel like I need it).

I hate ios10 though, it's a mess. Fortunately I've not had any crashes, but weird bugs such as the old safari tabs or the music app white screen (which I've had since ios 9, I should add).

The unlock screen is bollocks, the notifications screen is barely used, and don't get me started on the Music app. It upsets me that God-King Reznor is involved with such a piece of hot garbage. To go back a menu, you need to swipe the screen down, yet this is also how you pull the notifications screen down so how the fuck was this given the green light?

The biggest offender though is cutting and pasting a sentence from SMS/iMessage. Now trying to highlight text brings up a load of emoji bollocks, offering only the option to copy the entire message.

What am I to do though? I've bought into the ecosystem, and i'm not just talking about a few year's worth of apps. I have my MBP, an Apple TV in my bedroom, a Denon airplay HiFi... The ease of use/compatibility between these items is what puts me off of buying a Droid phone. I'm sure I take a lot of the syncing etc for granted...

 

[Meier]

It is pretty terrible but I appreciate some of the changes which mostly were cribbed from other apps. Autocorrect has definitely taken a huge step backwards.

 

[segasonic]

iPhone 6 user here. iOS 10 is definitely a downgrade! Less stable and worse usability!

 

[Omikaru]

What am I to do though? I've bought into the ecosystem, and i'm not just talking about a few year's worth of apps. I have my MBP, an Apple TV in my bedroom, a Denon airplay HiFi... The ease of use/compatibility between these items is what puts me off of buying a Droid phone. I'm sure I take a lot of the syncing etc for granted...

Best way to get out of an ecosystem is gradual, and requires some forward thinking about what you do with your current devices. Use apps/services that aren't tethered to Apple where possible, and slowly make it so that you can just switch one device without disrupting your setup. Don't use iTunes or Apple Music to buy your music/movies, and switch to another service instead. Don't use apps which sync with iCloud, but have cross-platform versions (i.e. switch from Notability to Evernote or OneNote, as an example).

My best advice is to switch the closed platform devices (i.e. iOS) first, as Android has apps that simulate the seamless integration between computer and phone (like AirDroid and Pushbullet) that will also work on Mac (and even to some extent, iPad). And even if it doesn't, you can put a non-Apple OS (i.e. Windows, Linux) on a Mac to enable the more seamless integrations with those platforms that Android has. It's easier to make an Android device work seamlessly with macOS than it is to make an iOS device work seamlessly with a non-Apple OS.

As for the Denon Hifi, I believe there are ways to use Airplay on non-Apple devices, though I'm not familiar with it. I don't use Airplay all that much so it's not something I've had to consider when planning my exit from the ecosystem, but it may be worth a look.

The biggest problem for me is, obviously, the Apple Watch. I think it's a great device and it's really helped me out in more ways than I'd considered before buying it, but it's pretty much tethered to my iPhone, so I would need to get rid of both of them at the same time if I get out of Apple's ecosystem.

 

[Mr Swine]

Never had any problem with iOS 10 on my old iPhone 6 Plus, iPad Air 1, iPad Pro and now iPhone 7 plus

 

[digdug2k]

It is pretty terrible but I appreciate some of the changes which mostly were cribbed from other apps. Autocorrect has definitely taken a huge step backwards.

Hasn't autocorrect on iOS always been incredibly awful. How did it go backwards?

 

[Spiral Insanity]

Apple anything suffers so much hyperbole on this forum.

 

[mrklaw]

I really cant believe how bad it is. Freezing, crashing, the most obnoxious development is that autocorrect is completely broken for me and typing has become a total chore. Im really amazed how far things have fallen. Quality used to be a gold standard for apple stuff. Jobs is rolling in his grave.

keyboard on my ipad pro 9.7 messes up constantly - usually by ignoring the button that lets me switch to symbols/numbers which is a real pain

Apple anything suffers so much hyperbole on this forum.

Apple literally gets the most hyperbole on this forum

 

[Qasiel]

I regret upgrading from the last version. It feels like they've added an extra step to everything.

My biggest annoyances:

1. No normal swipe to unlock. This sucks if you don't like using Touch ID.

2. Giving the music controls their own page in the Control Center. If you're browsing the web or something and need to change the track, you used to be able to just swipe from the bottom and hit the forward button. Now you have to swipe from the bottom, swipe the whole control center, then change the track. It's terrible.

3. This might have changed in an update before, but when you used to click on a link in Safari that opened a new tab, it would do a little animation that showed you that a new tab was opened. Now it just loads a page normally and you can't tell if a new tab was made.

Came in to complain about these exact things. Control Centre is now just a ball ache and really unintuitive.

 

[jts]

Best way to get out of an ecosystem is gradual, and requires some forward thinking about what you do with your current devices. Use apps/services that aren't tethered to Apple where possible, and slowly make it so that you can just switch one device without disrupting your setup. Don't use iTunes or Apple Music to buy your music/movies, and switch to another service instead. Don't use apps which sync with iCloud, but have cross-platform versions (i.e. switch from Notability to Evernote or OneNote, as an example).

My best advice is to switch the closed platform devices (i.e. iOS) first, as Android has apps that simulate the seamless integration between computer and phone (like AirDroid and Pushbullet) that will also work on Mac (and even to some extent, iPad). And even if it doesn't, you can put a non-Apple OS (i.e. Windows, Linux) on a Mac to enable the more seamless integrations with those platforms that Android has. It's easier to make an Android device work seamlessly with macOS than it is to make an iOS device work seamlessly with a non-Apple OS.

As for the Denon Hifi, I believe there are ways to use Airplay on non-Apple devices, though I'm not familiar with it. I don't use Airplay all that much so it's not something I've had to consider when planning my exit from the ecosystem, but it may be worth a look.

The biggest problem for me is, obviously, the Apple Watch. I think it's a great device and it's really helped me out in more ways than I'd considered before buying it, but it's pretty much tethered to my iPhone, so I would need to get rid of both of them at the same time if I get out of Apple's ecosystem.

But some level of seamless integration is just not possible elsewhere, like the Continuity and Handoff stuff, that Apple can pull off because they control both macOS and iOS at a core level.

To me, that’s very important. I get a phone call or a text, I can see and answer from any of my devices. I’m browsing a webpage, I have immediately available on the other device a button that I can click (or slide up) to switch to that device and not miss a beat. From Mac to iPhone, or vice-versa, and the iPad can be added to mix for those who own one as well.

And that’s just a few examples of handoff and continuity. There’s some things that just can’t be replaced even with a full switch to Android+Windows.

And yeah if we add the accessory devices like Apple TV and Apple Watch, the situation gets even more tricky if you develop a reliance on them.

In the end it boils down to that reliance. These are not vital functions but they are so good in day to day use, even if sometimes we don’t even notice them, and just take them for granted. It’s possible to live without them, but it’s a damn shame to lose them.

That’s what would make the switch hard for me, but personally I don’t have a reason to switch either.

 

[Sleight of Jam]

I wish I never upgraded :/

 

[Rymuth]

I agree - thou it doesnt freeze on me. I just find the QoL changes to be nonsensical and annoying.

 

[marimorimo]

Just a few days ago my 6s froze. Thankfully a soft reset fixed it.

I've been having keyboard issues (though rare) on both iPhone and iPad Air2.

I'm absolutely appalled as these are kinds of bugs that drove me away from Android in the first place. Who has the less buggier phones now?

 

[Zero315]

The music app is trash. HOW DO YOU RUIN SOMETHING LIKE THAT

Yep, they managed to ruin the music app while still not fixing the bug that fucks up the album artwork when syncing music to your phone.

 

[Auctopus]

I totally agree.

I've had crashing, shutting down at 40% sometimes. The UI is awful, I hate logging in to my phone now, it's a chore.

 

[SillyJoe]

Weird considering Apple is so persistent on me upgrading from iOS 9.. har.

Meanwhile Android 7 is amazing. Having to use iOS the past 2 months has been a DRAG. Miss my Nexus 5. Miss my functionality. Miss not having to install crapware to transfer files.

 

[Ambitious]

Notifications are a mess. They should scrap it and redo it from the scratch.

And seriously, the guy who decided to get rid of the option to group notifications by app should have been fired, like, yesterday. Idiot.

 

[mrkgoo]

Running iOS10 on an iPhone 5 - Love it! I only had one thing that disappointed me and that is map data takes a little longer to load in Find my Friends.

 

[samn]

Between an iPhone 5s and an iPhone 7 (both lowest storage tiers) I've had no problems. Try restoring, and not from a backup.

 

[Bustanen]

The new unlock screen is hot garbage. It's fun trying to use GFs ipad with a half broken home button. Why is Apple against choice? Courage?

 

[jts]

The new unlock screen is hot garbage. It's fun trying to use GFs ipad with a half broken home button. Why is Apple against choice? Courage?

I think in their design choices they assume the hardware is not broken or something, but you can enable a software home button on the display that will do the trick, look for AssistiveTouch in accessibility settings.

 

[Fret]

"total disgrace" lmao.

It's very good and works well for 99.9% of people. Sure there are a few bugs but overall it's a step up from ios 9.

 

[Bustanen]

I think in their design choices they assume the hardware is not broken or something, but you can enable a software home button on the display that will do the trick, look for AssistiveTouch in accessibility settings.

Thanks. This problem is quite common in Apple devices, no wonder they moved to a buttonless home "button" lol.

 

[Social]

"total disgrace" lmao.

It's very good and works well for 99.9% of people. Sure there are a few bugs but overall it's a step up from ios 9.

This thread alone seems to be showing that 99.9% figure isn't exactly true.

 

[Fret]

This thread alone seems to be showing that 99.9% figure isn't exactly true.

lol what? you really think that ~50 people in a neogaf thread is high enough of a statistic to be more than 0.1% of iOS users?

 

[WhiteRabbitEXE]

The mail app constantly crashes on my iPad 4. I know it's old hardware but they decided to update it and now a basic function doesn't work most of the time.

On my 5C it constantly crashes too. Also old hardware, but even still I don't know why Mail out of all the apps is the one that won't fucking stop crashing.

 

[Tobor]

I love iOS 10. Huge improvement. /shrugs

In fact, I'd say it's the best version of iOS I've ever used, and I've used them all.

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

Yeah it's a mess. Hopefully they continue to make it more stable and not shoe-in these features because they don't know what else to do.

Turning the simple texting/messaging into a chatroom feature was cool at first but now it's just unnecessary addon.

The UX in general has taken a huge step back as mentioned by many others. Making things that would take one swipe or button press and making them to two or more is never good.

The music app is trash. HOW DO YOU RUIN SOMETHING LIKE THAT

fucking this too. forcing apple music and radio bullshit.

Now that i think of it, is there any 3rd party music apps worth getting?

 

[Ambitious]

Yeah it's a mess. Hopefully they continue to make it more stable and not shoe-in these features because they don't know what else to do.

Turning the simple texting/messaging into a chatroom feature mess was cool at first but know it's just unnecessary addon.



fucking this too. forcing apple music and radio bullshit.

Now that i think of it, is there any 3rd party music apps worth getting?

Cesium is really great. Unfortunately, there's no iPad version.

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

Cesium is really great. Unfortunately, there's no iPad version.

damn that's exactly what i've been looking for. are there any free alternatives?


edit: search comes up with

ecoute for 99c
music is free but need to test it out first

 

[GeordieMark]

I don't like the new alarm

This. I'm tempted to buy an alarm clock so I don't have to use it.

 

[Robot Pants]

I'm on 6s 64gb almos and my only problem with it is my
Battery dies so much faster than before.
Other than that it's an improvement in every department. Especially texting, speed of switching between apps, and most of all: THE MUSIC PLAYER

 

[IISANDERII]

The new emojis are really ugly, bring back the old ones!

the alarm is fucking ruined.

What's wrong with the alarm??

 

[Saya]

Biggest annoyance is that my phone constantly keeps forgetting my wifi network. Every time I unlock it I have to go to settings to connect.

 

[Oppo]

i have seen none of that behavior on my 64gb 6S.

most i have seen are web pages displaying as "blank" when i switch tabs.

edit - the alarm? what on earth are you guys talking about. it has barely changed

Music app is bad though. and i don't like split panes on mission control.