Yeah this isn't accurate at all if you played the game you probably rushed through because it takes minimal effort to get this scene to play out. To add to this I don't think she's completely devoted to Noctis, I think she understands she has to do certain things to help save the world and is willing to sacrifice her personal happiness for the betterment of Eos as a whole. This scene does a great job of showing that.
Final Fantasy XV SPOILER THREAD
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Yeah this isn't accurate at all if you played the game you probably rushed through because it takes minimal effort to get this scene to play out. To add to this I don't think she's completely devoted to Noctis, I think she understands she has to do certain things to help save the world and is willing to sacrifice her personal happiness for the betterment of Eos as a whole. This scene does a great job of showing that.
DarkLordMalik
Member
Now that i have taken some time to take in the ending, I will talk in detail about what it felt to me.
As we have already heard from everyone who played the game, the story is a disjointed mess from start and won't start making sense until closer to the ending. There is a lot of content that feels like it was cut and some important information can be found through the lore scattered in the world. That said, the ending packs a really powerful punch and it did that for me, making it one of the most memorable FF ending. The story takes some massive leap of logic to get to the end but when we are there, we experience it first hand, it becomes clear what the game is all about. It is about the journey of Prince Noctis and his exact opposite persona is Ardyn. Once a notable king who was accused and banished to the darknesa. It parallels to Noctis who is the rightful king that is fighting hard to reclaim his throne from him.
As for Luna x Noctis, again it is a huge missed opportunity that their relationship isn't conveyed in a proper way but saying that Luna was just doing everything for Noctis is completely wrong and does disservice to her character. We learn that Luna and Noctis have been childhood friends since growing up and he is engaged and set to marry Luna. It is clear that they both share a very beautiful bond of love between each other and this is seen in glimpses during the cutscenes and the way they communicated with each other was cute, I might add. So while it is established that Luna really holds Noctis dear to his heart despite her brother telling her multiple times that Noctis is not worthy to be a king, she has full faith in him. But this is just one side to Luna and the other side that has an equally important role in her sacrifice is her destiny as the Oracle to the people. To see what this really means to her, it is highly recommended to see the cutscene that is missable in the beginning of the game. It might be short but it shows a side of Luna that is missed during the main narrative and makes much of an impact during her big final speech in Altissia. So it is the culimination of these two points that she sacrifices her life to save Noctis and the people of Altissia, because it is her duty as an Oracle to protect them and also her love for Noctis.
Coming back to Noctis, he has to reclaim his throne but it is pretty evident right from the start that he is not prepared for it. So he freaks out once he learns that his father never told him that he would have to carry such a big task one day. He also has lack of confidence which is very apparent in the beginning few moments when he has to rely on his brotherhood friends. The thing is, as Noctis slowly begins to travel through his journey, he is continuously mentored by his friends like Gladious or Cor and Cid, who tell him clearly that it is his destiny and purpose to bring back the Kingdom of Lucis. By the end of the game, he pretty much has made his mind and decision so when he learn that he has to sacrifice himself to bring order and light back to the world, he accepts his fate and sets out to carry it leading into the ending clash. He knows he will die since it was his fate and the same was the case for Luna. The way it ended was that both fulfilled their role and were granted the chance to be together in the after life, beautifully conveyed by the whole ending scenario. Noctis no longer remains a sissy prince but mans up and reclaims his throne and willfully sacrifice his life to restore order to the world.
At the end of the day, Noctis x Luna both had a tragic ending and both knew it beforehand and accepted it. There was just no way for the game to end in a happy way and I am quite confident in saying this is one of my favorite FF ending.
As we have already heard from everyone who played the game, the story is a disjointed mess from start and won't start making sense until closer to the ending. There is a lot of content that feels like it was cut and some important information can be found through the lore scattered in the world. That said, the ending packs a really powerful punch and it did that for me, making it one of the most memorable FF ending. The story takes some massive leap of logic to get to the end but when we are there, we experience it first hand, it becomes clear what the game is all about. It is about the journey of Prince Noctis and his exact opposite persona is Ardyn. Once a notable king who was accused and banished to the darknesa. It parallels to Noctis who is the rightful king that is fighting hard to reclaim his throne from him.
As for Luna x Noctis, again it is a huge missed opportunity that their relationship isn't conveyed in a proper way but saying that Luna was just doing everything for Noctis is completely wrong and does disservice to her character. We learn that Luna and Noctis have been childhood friends since growing up and he is engaged and set to marry Luna. It is clear that they both share a very beautiful bond of love between each other and this is seen in glimpses during the cutscenes and the way they communicated with each other was cute, I might add. So while it is established that Luna really holds Noctis dear to his heart despite her brother telling her multiple times that Noctis is not worthy to be a king, she has full faith in him. But this is just one side to Luna and the other side that has an equally important role in her sacrifice is her destiny as the Oracle to the people. To see what this really means to her, it is highly recommended to see the cutscene that is missable in the beginning of the game. It might be short but it shows a side of Luna that is missed during the main narrative and makes much of an impact during her big final speech in Altissia. So it is the culimination of these two points that she sacrifices her life to save Noctis and the people of Altissia, because it is her duty as an Oracle to protect them and also her love for Noctis.
Coming back to Noctis, he has to reclaim his throne but it is pretty evident right from the start that he is not prepared for it. So he freaks out once he learns that his father never told him that he would have to carry such a big task one day. He also has lack of confidence which is very apparent in the beginning few moments when he has to rely on his brotherhood friends. The thing is, as Noctis slowly begins to travel through his journey, he is continuously mentored by his friends like Gladious or Cor and Cid, who tell him clearly that it is his destiny and purpose to bring back the Kingdom of Lucis. By the end of the game, he pretty much has made his mind and decision so when he learn that he has to sacrifice himself to bring order and light back to the world, he accepts his fate and sets out to carry it leading into the ending clash. He knows he will die since it was his fate and the same was the case for Luna. The way it ended was that both fulfilled their role and were granted the chance to be together in the after life, beautifully conveyed by the whole ending scenario. Noctis no longer remains a sissy prince but mans up and reclaims his throne and willfully sacrifice his life to restore order to the world.
At the end of the day, Noctis x Luna both had a tragic ending and both knew it beforehand and accepted it. There was just no way for the game to end in a happy way and I am quite confident in saying this is one of my favorite FF ending.
Finished it just right now. The story has huge issues and it's very obvious by the development and no strong creative force to make it better. Like I imagine that Nomura gave Tabata a outline and Tabata seriously had no idea how to make it all work. He made a technical great game but story wise overall it disappointed me.
Thankfully some of it is helped by just the journey with the 4 bros. The ending was really good imo and I seriously got emotional when I had to pick a photo. The CG scene was amazing and I love the transformation of the logo. I wish we could use clean shaven older Noctis as a skin.
I want to collect my thoughts more and post a proper impression.
What's the point of calling the last chapter 15? Is there something secret? Or were they just trying to be cheeky by not calling it the epilogue?
Thankfully some of it is helped by just the journey with the 4 bros. The ending was really good imo and I seriously got emotional when I had to pick a photo. The CG scene was amazing and I love the transformation of the logo. I wish we could use clean shaven older Noctis as a skin.
I want to collect my thoughts more and post a proper impression.
What's the point of calling the last chapter 15? Is there something secret? Or were they just trying to be cheeky by not calling it the epilogue?
DarkLordMalik
Member
The final super boss fights and post game content are tied to the narrative and lore which makes them very interesting IMO. I am okay with this being called chapter 15.
Malik how do I get the airship? Also has anyone figure out how to actually use the summons? I beat the entire game without every using Titan once.
When you start post game you get a quest to go to Hammerhead I think.
Solid Sora
Member
What? What super bosses are tied to the story?
archvile7
Member
Perhaps it was Gentiana, but I know she is Shiva. I watched the whole thing on one of the streams but couldn't find any recording of it on the internet, I did find a brief clip of when Bahamut has Ifrit pinned down, and Bahamut goes in close to him, and you can make out the human eye under the armor.
Edit - found an updated link with the entire Bahamut summon, it clearly looks like a humanoid face underneath the mask.I must have mistook Gentiana for Areana tho when watching the stream. I only saw it the one time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCQoXn8pIp8
he went from not giving a shit in his chair in ch0 to 'someone safe me T___T'
Ya someone here mentioned that it was hinted he was like the mech soldiers(which are made from daemons??)? So I wondered how that brootherhood ep works now.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
Gratuitous near nude Gentiana shot.
Cheat engine to pause the game and rotate the camera when it's out on PC eventually ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
MagnaderAlpha
Member
I kinda wonder why, then, Gentiana was said to be a "Messenger of the Gods" in an earlier spoiler if she is Shiva. She wouldn't be a messenger, but a God(Goddess) herself. When they first said she was a messenger, it almost gave me the impression that she was an intermediary between humans and Astrals(sorta like FFXV's twist on FF Type-0's
Arecia.
Solid Sora
Member
Yeah, but the brotherhood episode is still canon, since its events were mentioned in an optional cutscene. I think that maybe something they expand on in DLCs.
... Her front is covered if that's what you're thinking.
I just paused and you're right.
Kind of hate that we're resorting it to it being fixed or explained in DLC. They're both canon since they're both released from Square but the brotherhood one feels like no one told those writers about who Prompto really is, or that plot detail wasn't written into the game until after that episode of Brotherhood.
archvile7
Member
According to the guy who posted that video, you get Ifrit and Bahamut as summons after you beat the game...
(read in comments)
good luck fam, where are you gonna post your full thoughts when it's over? Just here or your old thread?
Yeah I saw earlier.
I made a Blogger page and all
I'll probably x-post it between that and my tumblr, then start a thread here to get some discussion going (which should hopefully have the side-effect of keeping that stuff out of other threads, so everyone is happy 
)I made a Blogger page and all
cool cool, always looking to read as many opinions and ideas as I can and challenge my own so the more stuff I can get at the better.
Fucking weird that I beat the game before the OT has gone up.
Okay? I mean, I'm probably going to give my general impressions here. The idea was for a thread where we could specifically discuss the game's handling of its female characters, since it's such a hot topic and many people have some pretty strong opinions on it.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
Well there're nude models of the characters anyway, if someone dig into the data and release them.
Ah, my bad, I should have read a little further back into the exchange.
There's a thread for that, but one post-launch when the game is out and people have played it is fine.
If you're specifically talking about "On FFXV and female characters" from a few months back, I know, I made it
LoneliestGhost
Banned
Guys, I wanna know if my boy Aaron Paul Nyx is in the game.
Wow, this is some garbage.
The focus of the summon animations is basically "look at how hot Shiva is". Absolutely nothing cool happens.
as a corpse illusion.
Liquid_015
Gold Member
To those who played the game,
Is the engine category of weapons still in game? For example, different engine swords?
Is the engine category of weapons still in game? For example, different engine swords?
LoneliestGhost
Banned
Ahaha, you're not wrong. She literally does nothing but twirl and caress Noctis.
Supermanisdead
Member
Uh??????
The opening in general is a big letdown.
Megalosaro
Banned
Guys.
There is a big locked vault door in Keycatrich Trench. How do I open that shizzle
There is a big locked vault door in Keycatrich Trench. How do I open that shizzle
Okay, now i'm leaning to the side of Bahamut is Areana
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCQoXn8pIp8
If you look at near the end(around 56 seconds), they show the actual face, and its a girl with the long eyelashes and the same eye color as Areana, and Noctis doesn't seem to be surprised by this at all.
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net...ighwind.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160131061107
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCQoXn8pIp8
If you look at near the end(around 56 seconds), they show the actual face, and its a girl with the long eyelashes and the same eye color as Areana, and Noctis doesn't seem to be surprised by this at all.
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net...ighwind.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160131061107
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Basically. A harem of borderline nude ice witches. Meanwhile Titan, Bahamut, Leviathan, and Rhamus all get these spectacularly animated epic sequences.
Lol
archvile7
Member
Also, she IS a Dragoon, so it would make sense if she was a creature typically associated with a dragon.
Makes you wonder if the other summons are also people/characters... Leviathan, Ramuh, Ifrit, Titan...