MrChocolate
Member
Jesus... I swear there is a Pop-GAF containment thread somewhere.
It appears Super Mario Run will require an internet connection at all times
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Jesus... I swear there is a Pop-GAF containment thread somewhere.
billy beane
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Pop-GAF posts are at least entertaining, unlike the majority of posts on gaming side which mostly feature grown men crying over video games.
The only time I'll play mobile games are in trains (12-15h / week at least). I don't have internet access 90% of the time. Games that require a connexion at all time are just totally unplayable.
I'd say it is a big deal...
Pretty rude to laugh at the disabled.
billy beane
Banned
And it's not rude at all to call people disabled who aren't?
Little Monser
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Few people replay these type of games so most won't care or even notice as they probably hadn't touched it in years anyway.
That's digital gaming in general. Sucks for collectors and replayers, but moot for most who consume media disposably.
dragonfart28
Banned
How is Nintendo so good at implementing online in the only scenario people don't want it.
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
What are you doing here then, go back to PopGAF and never come back.
Dunno, fanboy shitposting used to be banned here, but I guess it's fine when you posts some dancing gifs and say "slay" and "favs".
RowdyReverb
Member
Don't get me wrong, it absolutely sucks for people in that situation. I would be bummed out too if it were me. I'm only arguing against the sentiment that Nintendo are completely inept or intentionally screwing over their userbase with the decision and that it will significantly impact the game's popularity
You're being over-dramatic.
billy beane
Banned
I don't post in Pop-GAF, but I just might, just so I won't have to read your posts anymore.
Slurpy2k20
Member
There's a wide scale between saying this is a "good" thing, and the sensational"OMG THIS DESERVES THE BIGGEST FREAKOUT EVER NINTENDO IS SO HORRIBLE MY LIFE IS RUINED I'M NEVER BUYING THIS GAME" as so many here are spouting.
It's called having a shred of perspective. Do I condone this? No. Am I still going to buy this? Yes, because it will probably be one of the best games ever for iOS. Is this going to affect a large percentage of people? No. Can people do 76,927 other things if they happen to be in an area without internet, besides play this specific game? Yes. I'm not "defending" it. I'm saying people need to calm the fuck down and stop pretending this is going to affect their lives in some horrible way, or being so concerned whether their precious $10 purchase is going to be playable 5 years from now.
The point is both games are similar with the online DRM. The servers will not always be up therefore even if you're on WiFi, the game is unplayable. You are paying for a subscription. You're paying $10 for a game that isn't yours to keep.
And YES, maybe 3 years from now I still want to play the game. Or maybe 10 years as a retro flashback. It's the only Mario game to date on iOS (unless a sequel comes out, then boy - watch Nintendo eventually take down the servers for the 1st game)
Goodness sake, the damn apologists.
jts
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The price of this game both makes owners think it shouldnt have DRM because they are paying that much, and causes the game to have DRM because at that price it becomes that much more desirable to pirate.
Its a double-edged sword.
On the other hand paying costumers dont have to feel like schmucks for paying $10 for a game that every other punk just plays for free.
Its a double-edged sword.
On the other hand paying costumers dont have to feel like schmucks for paying $10 for a game that every other punk just plays for free.
You are defending this and honestly it's really bad. You haven't given us a good reason why this should be the case and I do think this will affect the game negatively.
Sorcerer Supreme
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Little Monser;226314439 said:Nintendo about to make a hell of a load of money and the haters are seething as usual! Sad! SlayTendo stay slaying whilst your faves try to cash in on the mobile market and flop! Oppps TEA!
this is so cringey
Herb Alpert
Banned
I've got an android phone with only 500megas of internet (yeah, I know, but I find it to be quite enough, I've got wi-fi at home, at work, etc).
Guess I won't play this game.
Guess I won't play this game.
jstevenson
Sailor Stevenson
they can always patch out the online DRM requirement if they decide to bring the servers down.
It's unfortunate that the game requires always online connection to play and I get that they are doing it because of the piracy concern. An example of how rampant the problem is a tweet from ustwo games
Like most people already said on the thread, I also don't like the idea that I'm paying for a mostly a single player game that I can't play whenever I want regardless of the internet connection. I hope they allow some sort of offline mode eventually at least.
Like most people already said on the thread, I also don't like the idea that I'm paying for a mostly a single player game that I can't play whenever I want regardless of the internet connection. I hope they allow some sort of offline mode eventually at least.
That tweet was from 2 years ago. I wonder if the situation has improved at all.
That's what I thought about Sonic Runners.
If online is a huge thing in this game, then I can't see how they can just "patch" it out...
Also If there are many people logging in to the game, servers slow down which will take longer than usual to load the game up....
JoshuaJSlone
Member
It makes sense for Miitomo. It's all about sharing answers to questions, sharing pictures, acquiring things for your person or room that are saved to an online account. Miitomo without the Internet would be kind of like using Facebook without the Internet.
But such is the nature of gaming on iOS.
I've been an iOS gamer since the App Store opened in 2008. Those early games I paid for in 2008 and 2009 don't work anymore on my iPhone 7 with iOS 10 now.
Street Fighter IV was a premium release on iOS back in 2010. Now Capcom won't guarantee its functionality beyond iOS 8.
So while I'll spend my £8 on it and play it in 2016, my expectations are in check and it wouldn't surprise me if my 2026 iOS refuses to play it.
superNESjoe
Member
Was planning on playing this on an iPad in my house anyways. Doesn't stop it from being a silly requirement, but the whole point of this venture is to make money and piracy is absolutely rampant on these devices so I can't say I blame them either.
Not changing my plans to get it. It's $10, which is plenty cheap enough to not feel like I need a constant eternal connection to it. When the game's service disappears or I no longer own a device that supports it I'm sure I'll have gotten my $10 worth by then.
Not changing my plans to get it. It's $10, which is plenty cheap enough to not feel like I need a constant eternal connection to it. When the game's service disappears or I no longer own a device that supports it I'm sure I'll have gotten my $10 worth by then.
If I decide to keep my iPhone7+ on iOS 10 and never upgrade it, then what? It will still be unplayable if Nintendo closes down servers. People don't upgrade all the time to the latest OS you know.
And you are forgetting Android users too.
They don't have a follow up info but I imagine it won't be any better now because it's still super easy to pirate a game for android.
Most people update their devices every 3 years or so though.
I was thinking the same thing. It's pretty much saying, if you want the offline experience, buy our dedicated console. Which I don't mind if the Switch is awesome as we hope it is.
Yes and they have the option to keep their old device. If the old device can play Mario but my new one can't, you damn right I'm going to keep both and not sell it or throw it away.
superNESjoe
Member
Then you decide if the $10 price is worth the several years you would have to enjoy the game before it's no longer available or playable. If not, then fantastic, you've spoken with your wallet and not bought the game.
Seriously though, $10 is a meal that you eat for 15 minutes and shit out a few hours later. Chances are this game will either have discontinued service or incompatibility with modern phones long after everyone has gotten bored with it and hadn't played it in years anyway. I collect retro games and I tend to replay games many years later, but even then I don't get the obsession that buying a game means you *need* to be sure you'll have it theoretically forever. But you won't, on anything. On physical media, digital media, on any platform, nothing is permanent and eventually you'll be dead anyway so every game you buy has an expiration date as far as your use of it is concerned.
Is a mobile Mario for $10 that you can at the very least play for the next three years worth it to you? Then buy it. Is it not? Then don't. At least they shared this info BEFORE launching it.
isaacnukem
Member
I don't see people having the biggest freakout over this, I see a lot of people pointing out that Nintendo could and should've at least made this title partially offline. Saying they lost a sale hardly equates to a freakout.
As many people have already pointed out, it's a valid concern, this always online thing for an endless runner. And now people are voicing out that they won't be supporting these shenanigans.
I'm not really sure what folks like you want. For people who won't be buying the game to shut up and not speak about it?
NoHeDidn't
Member
These games require newer IOS firmware and I believe there is no jailbreak past 9.3.3.Hell most people are on the newest firmware 10+ and that for sure hasn't been jailbroken so the piracy angle is BS.
Don't get me wrong Im sure Nintendo is breaking out in hives at the thought of piracy however the amount of people on older jailbreak firmware is miniscule.Seriously if Nintendo cared about piracy maybe they would update WiiU cause that thing like 3ds is so open to piracy people literally download free games of eshop servers!
Edit: And you ass***** telling people "shut up and quit bitching its just $10 and Nintendo rules" have quite the blindspot for such strong opinions.You forget thousands have been eagerly awaiting this game and now they find out they can't play it on the GO cause they have data caps or a wifi only device.
Don't get me wrong Im sure Nintendo is breaking out in hives at the thought of piracy however the amount of people on older jailbreak firmware is miniscule.Seriously if Nintendo cared about piracy maybe they would update WiiU cause that thing like 3ds is so open to piracy people literally download free games of eshop servers!
Edit: And you ass***** telling people "shut up and quit bitching its just $10 and Nintendo rules" have quite the blindspot for such strong opinions.You forget thousands have been eagerly awaiting this game and now they find out they can't play it on the GO cause they have data caps or a wifi only device.
Not sure how they can remotely update the WiiU/3DS without the user consent.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
The phone angle here is pretty hilarious.
Even if you choose to ignore that many people have poor service, lack great data plans or have parts of their commute with service that gets cut off, the game is still also being sold on iPad and iPod Touch.
Even if you choose to ignore that many people have poor service, lack great data plans or have parts of their commute with service that gets cut off, the game is still also being sold on iPad and iPod Touch.
I don't think Nintendo were worried if iOS 9.3.3 was jail broken or not. It's a blanket decision that stops any potential successful jailbreak that may appear in the future.
I'm afraid of a different possibility-- that the full version won't be playable on multiple devices without buying it multiple times.
This is true of games that are free to download and then you pay to unlock. At least in my experience other devices you want to play it on with your same itunes account don't get the unlocked version.
They are saying however that you can play with the same save across devices, so I'm hoping this isn't true after all. But if I have to pay $10 twice to be able to have two devices playing the game at the same time, that's going to be really annoying. And wouldn't surprise me coming from Nintendo, as that's exactly how the horrible account system makes things on 3DS and Wii U.
This is true of games that are free to download and then you pay to unlock. At least in my experience other devices you want to play it on with your same itunes account don't get the unlocked version.
They are saying however that you can play with the same save across devices, so I'm hoping this isn't true after all. But if I have to pay $10 twice to be able to have two devices playing the game at the same time, that's going to be really annoying. And wouldn't surprise me coming from Nintendo, as that's exactly how the horrible account system makes things on 3DS and Wii U.
BroggieDoge
Member
When is this out?! Still hasn't hit the App Store.
EDIT: The 15th.. not sure why I thought today was the day.
EDIT: The 15th.. not sure why I thought today was the day.
Trogdor1123
Member
Well they probably were not getting it anyway but it could also be the thing that they hated. Nothing wrong with that.