Super Mario Run 10M+ downloads Day 1, over $4M revenue, biggest Appstore launch ever.
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Franz Brötchen
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Sure, but that applies to anyone who isn't Apple/Android. Always remember that supposed industry know-it-all geniuses at Sony also are gearing up mobile.
The end game for any console manufacturer will be Amazon inevitably releasing a FIFA/CoD streaming box available via a small renting fee on top of the regular Amazon Prime membership. Even the Playstation brand wouldn't survive that imo.
moltonasty
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I don't really agree with this. Obviously the mechanics are different, but I don't see how this is so different from say New Super Mario Bros U if you held forward the entire time lol.
-Mario Kart is a racing game
-Mario Run is a platforming game, like all the mainline Marios
Mobile Zelda would have to be drastically different, I don't see how a one button control scheme would work for example
Sho_Nuff82
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Nintendo did go 3rd party. For the largest gaming hardware manufacturer, Apple. It greatly increased their mindshare for Pokemon, and made them shit loads of money across a handful of releases. And the titles are different enough that they don't compete with their dedicated console titles.
All in all, they've handled this transition in the safest and healthiest possible way.
Maybe 10-15 years down the line you might see them dip their toes into PC publishing, but the wolves are no longer at their door.
Franz Brötchen;226714021 said:
I think the failure of just about every dedicated HT box as a gaming platform shows that mobile gamers simply don't care to be tethered to a television. People who want dedicated home games to play on TV buy a console.
eyeball_kid
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It feels like a Mario game to me. The mechanics are tailored for touch controls, but at heart it feels like a Mario platformer.
NSMB Wii popped back into the Amazon top 100 yesterday after this launched
Not on Wii U. Wii
Turns out people actually own Wiis.
The stock market is not as one dimensional as you think.
What do you mean? you do not think it is connected to Super Mario Run? Please explain.
Just to clarify, when Pokemon Go was released the stock went up mote than 100% in 2 weeks (investors did not understand how much money Nintendo would get from the deal). When Super Mario Run release the Stocks is down almost 9%. To just explain that with "Markets are complicated" seems strange. It is obviously connected to Mario Run so it would be interesting to know what analyst was guessing.
Dark Ninja
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People complaining about $10 ya'll cheap
Zen_Arcade
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This would happen with literally any popular franchise from any first party developer as long as reviews were good and it could keep the spirit of the game intact.
People are acting like if Microsoft found a way to make a great Halo mobile FPS and sold it for $10 on a device everyone already owns that it wouldn't sell gangbusters.
Uncharted would work really well on mobile: touch the screen to shoot, touch the screen to jump, slide to climb, press certain areas of the screen for QTEs. It would feel almost as automatic as Uncharted 4...
Not just cheap. Nintendo could have easily monetized the rally tickets and made a cost to play every campaign level, and charged more than a total of $10 in small increments to unlock everything. People are stupid.
Jack The Nipper
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That number seems really low? Games on consoles have been known to do way more so I'm sure surprised.
For as much as mobile gaming is talked as big. I expected way more. What am I missing
For as much as mobile gaming is talked as big. I expected way more. What am I missing
edit: Some of my dates were off, but point stands. Basically stock was at $12 before mobile was announced and it went up to $24, then fluctuated a ton on Pokemon GO, Super Mario Run announcement, etc. Now it's settling back to slightly higher than $24. Public perception drives +/-10% fluctuations, and in the case of Pokemon GO, even more. But investors set the new "bottom" value of a company, like the $24 after the mobile announcement.
You can take the short view and say Super Mario Run tanked the company by 10% or you can take the long view and say that Nintendo entering the mobile market this year has increased their value by 100%+. In fact right now the price is basically what the price was after the initial mobile announcement came out. The rest has just been fluctuations and improper inflation due to public perception. Investors think it is a success, they just decided on that amount of success 6 months ago.
disappeared
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Really makes a person wonder how many millions of people still have their Wiis just sitting around.
Not the same market. You can't expect every iPhone user to connect through the AppStore to download the game. The iPhone is not a dedicated video game device, as opposed to consoles.
wild wild rice
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This is exactly what I said. And these aren't even sales, just downloads. But apparently that's an impressive number in the mobile market?
Iwata was right.
According to Polygon, Super Mario Run has been download 3.5M times in US alone, so...the info in OP is wrong ?
http://www.polygon.com/2016/12/16/13985380/super-mario-run-downloads
http://www.polygon.com/2016/12/16/13985380/super-mario-run-downloads
Jinfash
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Whew lawd. Someone got bluebells while holding a dish of crow.
Lights and Waves
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ok downloads are cute but who actually bought the full game?
Jack The Nipper
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That was my point. I often here as do most of us here that mobile gaming is huge etc
Now I clearly see circumstances and sales play a big part. It's just way lower than I ever imagined and it's not even sales. I guess there isn't as much worry for gaming after all
I understand that costs are much lower but I can see why Nintendo has held off. Pokemon games made way more money.
ProfessorLobo
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Even if we go with a high estimate for conversion, like ten percent, it's not a huge amount of money.
Jack The Nipper
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That would make more sense to me..
We run a fb page that is Nintendo centric and did find many users not playing this which was interesting. Still a lot of people without iPhone or not for buying it.
Linkstrikesback
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Ah yes, the bastion of good hardware for gaming, the mobile phone.
Hang on a moment...
tkscz
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It's not a huge game. Yes, at 2.85 million downloads, they still made less money then say they made on the sales of Super Mario 3D World which sold about 3 million worldwide, but at $50 a pop they probably profited way more. Still, it's a successful launch.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Surely there's a reason - idiocy.
A Nintendo thread won't be complete without that.
ok downloads are cute but who actually bought the full game?
It's the top grossing App right now, so enough to get it there at least.
Expected and deserved. The game is amazing in terms of how many gameplay possibilities they managed to give you with only one gesture (tap). It's insane. Level design is good and well thought out as well in relation to how gameplay works, and the difficulty is surprisingly high, especially to get the "advanced" coins.
I also see that spin doctors are at work in full force to try to downplay this result. Lmfao
I also see that spin doctors are at work in full force to try to downplay this result. Lmfao
Interfectum
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App Annie (Polygon) vs Apptopia (Verge)
I'd go with App Annie any day. So yeah, thread should be updated.
Linkstrikesback
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Legs are less stacked to day 1 for mobile I'd assume. I don't think they had preorders to further stack the launch day sales? Certainly not for the months that your typical AAA record breaker console game would have.
Are you talking about Apple? Because that's certainly what their over-priced and "last-year" tech is.
It's possible, but Reggie denied it outright just last week. That makes me think it's probably not coming imminently, at least.
Relaxed Muscle
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They will never, ever get Wii + DS sales, again. That people is happy playing on their phones.
ZSaberLink
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2.85 million downloads on day is the biggest launch of the app store? That's it? Is that just for the US or is that worldwide? If I'm not mistaken, don't AAA games easily sell more than that in 1-2 days in a single country?
You'll be waiting a while, then.
Obviously, I am not saying that Super Mario Run "tanked" the company I am only talking about the valuation of the stock. Specifically, I was commenting on the crazy high expectation some of the investors seem to have on Nintendo's Mobile games. It is quite interesting to compare Mario Run's launch with the launch of Pokemon GO which undeniably took a lot of investors by surprise.
I guess many investors think that Nintendo will go whale fishing and therefore have high expectations. However, I am not sure how far Nintendo dare to go with micro transactions in their mobile games.
Perhaps, Fire Emblem and Animal Crossings will have much more whale bait but they do not want to damage the Mario Brand in the same way.
Edit: And I think it is way to early to say that this is the bottom. In the coming week when more data from Mario Run is coming in I think it will fluctuate a lot.
wonderful103
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I mean,
NPD said:
Nobody's reaching those heights anymore. That's why they should all
a) continue to diversify, just like Nintendo
b) go whole hog into platform-as-a-service (they're all transitioning into this, rather than continuing the notion generations)
Because the traditional console market hasn't been healthy in a long time, DUE to the fact that more people are leaving it.
Play the long game if you wish for future success (which is most certainly not the dedicated console market).
Joelstinton14
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Many AAA games are lucky to even sell 2.85 - 3.50 million.
Impossible, we're merely 0.18m members total. :O