Razgriz-Specter
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Rogue One: A Star Wars Story |OT| They rebel - SPOILERS
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Rawr Its Ry
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Did the hammerhead cruiser bite it w/ the SD or did they reverse out after? I hope they managed to escape that...but then again they probably would've ran into Vader's pursuit force 
It's, by all intents of purposes, his birthplace.
It's where Anakin Skywalker died and where Darth Vader was born.
He could either refuse to ever to return to Mustafar again, or he could .. well, own it
there's too many people who are rather fond of the prequels (or at least of RotS, it seems) for them to play the nerdy gatekeeper.
the new comics even had episode 1 ships in them. I honestly never thought anything else..
Did the hammerhead cruiser bite it w/ the SD or did they reverse out after? I hope they managed to escape that...but then again they probably would've ran into Vader's pursuit force
That reminds me, one of the absolute best "I've never seen that in Star Wars before" moments was when the rebel fleet tries to jump to hyper space but Vader's Star Destroyer jumps out of hyperspace right in front of them and a bunch of ships smash right into it. Great visual, great moment, and one of those cool things that are reason enough for these spin off movies to exist.
With the Obi-Wan namedrop in Rogue One and in Rebels this week, I'm now completely convinced that they will do a Obi-Wan movie.
It really was the perfect introduction for vaders ship imho. loved it.
This has been the case since Disney bought Star Wars? They released the last season of Clone Wars, Rebels is filled with prequel call backs and there are new comics based in the prequel era. Unless you are just referring to the movies.
is it a name-drop if the name is never really dropped?
Rebels is the perfect bridge actually.
There's clone troopers, there's
Leia
Tarkin
Darth Maul
Ahsoka
edit: speaking of clone troopers
Kylo Ren's " Perhaps Leader Snoke should consider using a clone army." was already a nod to the prequel trilogy.
Exactly: the story changed. And whereas the dialogue between Leia and Vader in Episode IV reflects the former story, now with the new story it creates a weird break in tone. What you say about the radio drama reinforces my impression: that Vader had monitored Leia's transmission in secret.
Because it wasn't mistaken, as the radio drama shows. And I've defended my opinion because nothing you've said has convinced me otherwise. The dialogue between Leia and Vader in Episode IV does not convey to me what they would have said to each other if they'd just been in a battle together, and you haven't changed my mind on that. And since George Lucas isn't involved with Star Wars anymore, that kind of authorial mismatch isn't surprising, but I do think it could have been avoided with more careful writing in Rogue One.
Rawr Its Ry
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For sure, when I first saw that I was screaming on the inside lol, probably one of the shittiest ways to die in the SW universe? I feel like a gif of that would be great banned gif lol. Or like a screenshot of that with YOURE FUCKED on the top and bottom.
Lionel Mandrake
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I was really expecting them to say "Blue Harvest." The (adjective) (noun) structure seemed tailor made to slip in that reference. I wouldn't be shocked if they filmed a version with Blue Harvest as one of the names and cut it, which is probably for the best since that was when things were getting tense.
Shittiest way to die's gotta go to Boba Fett, right? Accidentally smacked by a blind man into a sand vagina.
and yes, he's dead. Spinoff movie can't tell me otherwise!
Dudes in the Vader hallway in this movie didn't have it easy either!
Bobby Roberts
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Well that's kinda what I'm getting at now. You're refusing the possibility you ever might have maybe had it wrong.
I'm probably never going to convince you at that point. You think Vader HEARING the plans go aboard the ship (and it wasn't in secret. A guy is talking to the Tantive the entire time like "We see you recieving transmissions, you better stop that shit") vs Vader WATCHING the plans go aboard the ship is enough to cause a "weird break in tone." That doesn't really make sense.
Really interesting sidetrack, tho.
not even kicked. unintentionally bumped with a staff, which set off the jetpack, shooting him onto the hull of Jabba's barge
Would be really weird if the recepient of my iMessages thought i was flipping them off :/
If you're operating from the assumption that you're "right" and I'm "wrong" then yes, you're not going to convince me. We just have different opinions. And for the record, the people I saw the movie with said the same thing, so it's not just me.
Bobby Roberts
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OricWindstar
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The moment I realized that the BB-8 thing wasn't a joke argument still sticks with me.
Bobby Roberts
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OricWindstar
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A surprisingly large amount of people thought BB-8 was flipping Finn the bird. Like Disney was trying to sneak in some kind of Shrek style "adult" joke.
That thread was moving crazy fast, so I'm not sure what part of the release week cycle that was in.
Bobby Roberts
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What's the venn diagram with those people and people upset that Kylo Ren wasn't "badass enough" and "looked stupid when he took his mask off"
Disney has defined the SWU as the 6 movies and nothing else, no comics or else, but yes, the prequels do exist.
I read that mostly at face value, with Vader being like "Guys. Please don't do that again, it's a giant pain to cover up half a planet exploding"
OricWindstar
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I think you'd be pretty safe just drawing a circle.
Bobby Roberts
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Just saw it and damn... I enjoyed this way better than Episode 7. I was whooping and hollering to so many scenes especially when the Rebel Fleet and X-wings warp in at the end to help, when Vader's ship warps in and blocks their escape, and then Vader being a bad ass slicing up rebels. I was grinning too much.
I still prefer to think of it as him flipping it off. It's funnier.
Well, I'm outside it atleast. Kylo Ren is great. I just think BB-8 flipping Finn the bird out of exasperation is funnier than them being made buddies, especially since literally seconds ago he's unsure whether to trust Finn or not. A "God, you better not fuck me over" expression feels more believable to me.
That's not true. It's the eight movies, and all of the animated series, novels, and comics made after the acquisition. Also the Clone Wars series, I believe. Everything produced after Disney acquired the brand is canon; they made a specific point of announcing that no non-canon works would be made any longer. And the former EU stuff is now "Legends" and non-canon (not that it ever was).
Not true, numerous comic runs and other materials are still included in that (although only past a certain point).
OricWindstar
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Haha, don't get me wrong; it would be hilarious. I just can't see Lucasfilm okaying their cute new robot flipping off a character.
Then again, one can only imagine what R2 is screaming about without subtitles.
I recommend not caring about what Lucasfilms say. Intentions are nothing. What matters is what they put on screen.
If the creator of this image swore up and down that he was only trying to draw a vase and nothing else, that wouldn't change the fact that the image could be interpreted as two faces.
BB-8 can be interpreted to be giving Finn the middle finger through imagery and context. That's all you need.
Dreams-Visions
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Aiite boys. BB or K2.
SolidChamp
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Just saw it.
I love the tone, directing, and cinematography of this film a lot. More so than TFA. This feels like it actually expands upon what was there, rather than trying to hash out a new little story from the universe and mythology. I liked TFA a lot, but it falls victim to feeling forced and rehashed. Rogue One suffers from none of that.
This is the first SW film to put a real-world feel to the conflict between the Rebellion and the Empire. The stakes felt real, the threat of the Empire felt so foreboding and sinister. It has this seamless integration with the OT and wouldn't feel out of place as a film made in the 70's coming after A New Hope.
Yeah, this is a better film than TFA, for sure. Edwards directs this with a sure hand and a sense of scale and spectacle that Abrams seems to have been holding back on, for whatever reason.
This is what I want from Episode VIII.
I love the tone, directing, and cinematography of this film a lot. More so than TFA. This feels like it actually expands upon what was there, rather than trying to hash out a new little story from the universe and mythology. I liked TFA a lot, but it falls victim to feeling forced and rehashed. Rogue One suffers from none of that.
This is the first SW film to put a real-world feel to the conflict between the Rebellion and the Empire. The stakes felt real, the threat of the Empire felt so foreboding and sinister. It has this seamless integration with the OT and wouldn't feel out of place as a film made in the 70's coming after A New Hope.
Yeah, this is a better film than TFA, for sure. Edwards directs this with a sure hand and a sense of scale and spectacle that Abrams seems to have been holding back on, for whatever reason.
This is what I want from Episode VIII.
The context of the scene clearly implies it's a thumbs up due to BB-8 making a choice to trust Finn. There's no reason to believe it's a middle finger other than wanting to perceive it as something else, given that BB-8 actively lies to Rey who can understand him while Finn can't.
Your analogy falls apart when you consider the film has before and after context where as the picture you posted does not. The artist's intent doesn't translate as well to a scene as it does a piece of standard art.
OricWindstar
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Nah, I agree with all that. I'm all for you interpreting it as him flicking him off, much like I don't think of the prequels as canon. That's fine that Lucasfilm and most fans do, but I'm just never going to be able to see that as part of the same world as the OT. Same with the people losing their minds over the old expanded universe becoming Legends. Just, believe what you want, guys; Lucasfilm can't sue your headcanon.
When I was in the discussion, it seemed more like people were actively suggesting that the intent of the filmmakers was that he was flipping the bird, which I was disagreeing with.
I'm not totally sure Abrams has that capability, based on TFA and his two Star Trek films.
Bobby Roberts
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Looks like the For Your Consideration version of the Soundtrack is up at Disney's site:
http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/#/rogue-one/music
http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/#/rogue-one/music
TheSchwab_7
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SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
K2 felt too much like Marvin the Paranoid Android, so I'll give it to BB. Felt Star Warsy and original at the same time.
K2 was still great. Every single joke was on point.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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This was a terrible film. I felt almost nothing for these characters as they died random deaths by explosion.
The only character I liked was the robot.
And then he died too.
The only character I liked was the robot.
And then he died too.
I already gave my justification. I choose to interpret that BB-8 is exasperated rather than enthusiastic. It fits the scene better. That's more than "I just want it to be a middle finger" I think. Having BB-8 be told that by Finn that he was lying this whole time, then beg to give him secret information is suspicous and BB-8's reluctance is palpable with his back and forth motions between Finn and Rey. So when he finally gives in, a "God, you better be on the up and up" seems like a more appropriate expression than "Yeah, I got you buddy!"
And I disagree and don't think you fully understand my position. It's not that "artistic intention doesn't translate" it's that "artistic intention doesn't matter, the artistic product does."
Unless you can think of a reason that it can't possibly be a middle finger within the context of the film, it's a valid interpretation even if it's one you disagree with.
Ah, I see. That makes more sense then.
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