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Rogue One: A Star Wars Story |OT| They rebel - SPOILERS

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We've hit 120 pages now. I think we've covered everything. All that's left is shipping.

EDIT: Oops, 121.
The thread lasted 5 days already and didnt already jumped the shark, this may be 3 days longer then any Star Wars Thread before!

But we are dangerously close right now.
 
I went to the movie assuming they would all die, but not sure if that's because of something that was said in A New Hope or if I just made it up and it happened to come true.

The line where many people (bothans) died was from EP VI.

I didn't think they would killed them all, but it was the best thing for continuity and it shows that it really was a suicide mission.
 
Can anyone who (for some reason) has a cam rip take some screenshots of the AT-ACT pilots? They show up very briefly near the beginning of the battle on Scarif.
 
I just came back from seeing it and eh, it's a competently made movie but it's absolutely nothing special. It has a strong ending but before that it's fairly middling. I was bored for most of the runtime because Jyn was totally overacted and the male lead was a charisma vacuum. I expected much of Krennic to but he amounted to nothing really. He should have been a strong central villain instead of engaging Tarkin so much in the plot. Right now as I see it:

ESB
ANH
TFA

RotJ
RO

RotS
TPM

AotC

RotJ and RO might switch places but I don't really see it coming because among Death Star and Ewok rubbish it had some great stuff while RO has... K2 and the few final minutes? I think the movie picks up when K2 dies but before that the only worthwhile thing is the planet exploding effect.
 
To be fair, I still don't really rate VII's soundtrack either.

Rey's theme is great. The last track that went with the journey / Jedi steps, also great. The march of the Resistance? Meh.

The rest, I forget.



Fucking lol.

I was actually going to mention her's and Kylo Ren's themes as being analogous in TFA given they're two of the few themes people pick up on a first watch.
 
But I didn't get any cool space or ship stuff in TFA as a result and this gave me like ROTJ-tier space battle which pretty much automatically makes Rogue One better.

The assault on Starkiller was still pretty cool, but they dialed it back to focus on the saber fight which was one of the best in the series. So you can have your Rogue One space battle :p

I'm not super interested in space battles unless a main character is participating. ANH had Luke, for example, and that was the climax of the film.

The protagonists in TFA were squarely involved with the Kylo Ren shenanigans.
 
Probably fine with it, since it would have shown that he's known to make stupidly obvious "get it, get it?" jokes. He never did though.
Would anyone have an issue if he instead made a lame ass joke about sand being coarse?
Well.. I'm assuming they wouldn't like it if they thought it sucked. But I wonder how much of this had to do with the context of it being a Disney purchased spin-off years later.
 
I'm not super interested in space battles unless a main character is participating.

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Just saw the movie. Thought it was alright, until the last few minutes.

Then they screwed it all up. What a fucking stupid ending. What the fuck where they thinking? "Oh guyz, letz make this movie DIFFERENT, how about we kill ALL the main characters??? Oh god we are so fucking BRAVE and EDGY!!!1 Critics will love this film!!"

When I watch a Star Wars movie, I want the characters who are the heroes to win. Not fucking die. This film single-handedly destroyed any anticipation I had for any upcoming Star Wars movie. Why care for the spin-offs, when they will just kill off any characters, to "tell a complete story" that doesn't "interfere" with the main movies? And this also makes me wonder how much crap they will introduce to the main movies in order to create "drama". Congratulations to the writing team. You killed the magic behind Star Wars, and literally made me stop being a Star Wars fan. This is especially astonishing when you take a look at the MCU. Those writers could easily write a better Star Wars movie than this, without this edge lord crap. And they even work for the same company. I really regret paying money to see this movie, what a disappointment.
 
"The emperor is not as forgiving as i am" - RotJ
because, you know, vader is like super unforgiving

The two examples so far given are pretty bad. It's already established that he's sarcastic, but he's not a clown. The line in Rogue One is like something you would see on a primetime sitcom. His humor never had to be lowbrow fart jokes, but it may as well have been in this, because apparently the audiences are too stupid to understand without the punchline being pointed out.

Well.. I'm assuming they wouldn't like it if they thought it sucked. But I wonder how much of this had to do with the context of it being a Disney purchased spin-off years later.

Probably everything, which is why I said it was written for the audience of 2016, not the story. Just like the "are you serious" line. Which while much less offensive, was still dialogue that's only funny right now, because it's a common phrase in our current lexicon.
 
The space battle... which gave us our third asian Star Wars character.

This movie had two times as much asian Characters as all Star Wars movies before!
 
Gemüsepizza;226819923 said:
Just saw the movie. Thought it was alright, until the last few minutes.

Then they screwed it all up. What a fucking stupid ending. What the fuck where they thinking? "Oh guyz, letz make this movie DIFFERENT, how about we kill ALL the main characters??? Oh god we are so fucking BRAVE and EDGY!!!1 Critics will love this film!!"

When I watch a Star Wars movie, I want the characters who are the heroes to win. Not fucking die. This film single-handedly destroyed any anticipation I had for any upcoming Star Wars movie. Why care for the spin-offs, when they will just kill off any characters, to "tell a complete story" that doesn't "interfere" with the main movies? And this also makes me wonder how much crap they will introduce to the main movies in order to create "drama". Congratulations to the writing team. You killed the magic behind Star Wars, and literally made me stop being a Star Wars fan. This is especially astonishing when you take a look at the MCU. Those writers could easily write a better Star Wars movie than this. And they are from the same company. I really regret paying money to see this movie, what a disappointment.

Pretty sure the Han Solo movie wont kill off their two main characters.
 
Resistance theme... "meh..."

Well I've heard it all, damn it.

Like I said earlier on, opinions.

My friends and I also enjoy watching TPM purely as a comedy. I would gladly watch that film any time, any day. Hell, I might watch it right now.

"I don't sense anything". Oh Qui-Gon.

Gemüsepizza;226819923 said:
Just saw the movie. Thought it was alright, until the last few minutes.

Then they screwed it all up. What a fucking stupid ending. What the fuck where they thinking? "Oh guyz, letz make this movie DIFFERENT, how about we kill ALL the main characters??? Oh god we are so fucking BRAVE and EDGY!!!1 Critics will love this film!!"

When I watch a Star Wars movie, I want the characters who are the heroes to win. Not fucking die. This film single-handedly destroyed any anticipation I had for any upcoming Star Wars movie. Why care for the spin-offs, when they will just kill off any characters, to "tell a complete story" that doesn't "interfere" with the main movies? And this also makes me wonder how much crap they will introduce to the main movies in order to create "drama". Congratulations to the writing team. You killed the magic behind Star Wars, and literally made me stop being a Star Wars fan. This is especially astonishing when you take a look at the MCU. Those writers could easily write a better Star Wars movie than this, without this edge lord crap. And they even work for the same company. I really regret paying money to see this movie, what a disappointment.

Ok, this post is fucking hilarious.
 
Gemüsepizza;226819923 said:
This is especially astonishing when you take a look at the MCU. Those writers could easily write a better Star Wars movie than this. And they are from the same company. I really regret paying money to see this movie, what a disappointment.

Those writers can barely turn out quality MCU films with any regularity so.

Like why is this even a thing the writers differ with each MCU movie what are you trying to say.
 
The two examples so far given are pretty bad. It's already established that he's sarcastic, but he's not a clown. The line in Rogue One is like something you would see on a primetime sitcom. His humor never had to be lowbrow fart jokes, but it may as well have been in this, because apparently the audiences are too stupid to understand without the punchline being pointed out.

I think you should either go rewatch the original trilogy or give up this line of defense because you're not convincing anyone.
 
Gemüsepizza;226819923 said:
When I watch a Star Wars movie, I want the characters who are the heroes to win. Not fucking die.

Their dying doesn't negate their win, though. It's not like they failed their mission. They succeeded. They won.

Then they died.

Why care for the spin-offs, when they will just kill off any characters, to "tell a complete story" that doesn't "interfere" with the main movies?

Because a story is more than whether its main characters live to do the same shit you just watched them do, but slightly different, in an uneneding string of sequels.

Your use of quotes is kinda funny tho.
 
The two examples so far given are pretty bad. It's already established that he's sarcastic, but he's not a clown. The line in Rogue One is like something you would see on a primetime sitcom. His humor never had to be lowbrow fart jokes, but it may as well have been in this, because apparently the audiences are too stupid to understand without the punchline being pointed out.

well, i wasn't aware you're the to decide what constitues a "joke", what's a "sarcastic quip", what's a "snarky retort" ... we're drawing rather subjective and arbitrary lines here.

the fact that you put this on the same level as fart jokes kinda shows how much you are reaching to make a point :/
 
You know, as I think about it, this is easily the most diverse cast in Star Wars history and basically Fast and Furious level tier

White lady
Hispanic guy
Two Asians
Whatever the hell Riz Ahmed is (potentially Canadian? idk)
A robot
A handicapped man with no limbs
 
I think you should either go rewatch the original trilogy or give up this line of defense because you're not convincing anyone.

I agree with him. I'm poring over all of Vader's lines and all of them are sarcastically dark, but never got to the point of goofy of a choking pun. There's a clear difference to me. I don't dislike it, but they could've gone with something better.
 
You know, as I think about it, this is easily the most diverse cast in Star Wars history and basically Fast and Furious level tier

White lady
Hispanic guy
Two Asians
Whatever the hell Riz Ahmed is (potentially Canadian? idk)
A robot
A handicapped man with no limbs
1 Asian Lady! Peak diversity.
 
I don't think that just because it's more of a pun that it's bad. I can easily see HaydenVader saying something like that. It was sarcastic without being over the top hilarity or something.
 
loved it, but I think they should have just used a different actor instead of making bad CGI tarkin, that really was the only bad stuff taking me out of the movie (along with the other incredibly bad wax figurine).

As a war film / adventure I think this worked great and I genuinely couldn't help myself but smile during some scenes. That's rare in movies and makes me very happy.
 
I agree with him. I'm poring over all of Vader's lines and all of them are sarcastically dark, but never got to the point of goofy of a choking pun. There's a clear difference to me. I don't dislike it, but they could've gone with something better.
well, i wasn't aware you're the to decide what constitues a "joke", what's a "sarcastic quip", what's a "snarky retort" ... we're drawing rather subjective and arbitrary lines here.

the fact that you put this on the same level as fart jokes kinda shows how much you are reaching to make a point :/
Is pretty much all I have to say.
A sarcastic one liner is still a joke.
 
Gemüsepizza;226819923 said:
Just saw the movie. Thought it was alright, until the last few minutes.

Then they screwed it all up. What a fucking stupid ending. What the fuck where they thinking? "Oh guyz, letz make this movie DIFFERENT, how about we kill ALL the main characters??? Oh god we are so fucking BRAVE and EDGY!!!1 Critics will love this film!!"

When I watch a Star Wars movie, I want the characters who are the heroes to win. Not fucking die. This film single-handedly destroyed any anticipation I had for any upcoming Star Wars movie. Why care for the spin-offs, when they will just kill off any characters, to "tell a complete story" that doesn't "interfere" with the main movies? And this also makes me wonder how much crap they will introduce to the main movies in order to create "drama". Congratulations to the writing team. You killed the magic behind Star Wars, and literally made me stop being a Star Wars fan. This is especially astonishing when you take a look at the MCU. Those writers could easily write a better Star Wars movie than this, without this edge lord crap. And they even work for the same company. I really regret paying money to see this movie, what a disappointment.

I mean, if you're criticizing the film because it had weak characters and therefore we wouldn't care about them dying, that's one thing. I mean, these characters aren't Jedis, they're just soldiers dying for a cause and being unrewarded for it. For that, I praise the writers doing something smart but the characters just aren't there for me to have tears.
 
You know, as I think about it, this is easily the most diverse cast in Star Wars history and basically Fast and Furious level tier

White lady
Hispanic guy
Two Asians
Whatever the hell Riz Ahmed is (potentially Canadian? idk)
A robot
A handicapped man with no limbs
Riz is Pakistani/English iirc
 
Gemüsepizza;226819923 said:
Just saw the movie. Thought it was alright, until the last few minutes.

Then they screwed it all up. What a fucking stupid ending. What the fuck where they thinking? "Oh guyz, letz make this movie DIFFERENT, how about we kill ALL the main characters??? Oh god we are so fucking BRAVE and EDGY!!!1 Critics will love this film!!"

When I watch a Star Wars movie, I want the characters who are the heroes to win. Not fucking die.

Where's the tension in that? If the underdogs are faced against impossible odds, all live whats the point of the story? To make us feel good about being at the movies? To be just like another of a thousand of movies, where at the end the heroes all survive despite having no chance, just because the plot armor is indestructible? Fuck that.
 
You know, as I think about it, this is easily the most diverse cast in Star Wars history and basically Fast and Furious level tier

White lady
Hispanic guy
Two Asians
Whatever the hell Riz Ahmed is (potentially Canadian? idk)
A robot
A handicapped man with no limbs

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The outside world: The socio-political undertones of Rogue One, the dramatic increase in minority representation, is the current national situation is causing increased emotional resonance in audiences, are Baze & Chirrut more than friends...

NeoGAF: Did Vader's pun make you shit yourself just a little bit, or did you void bowels into the back of your toughskins like a city bus ramming a fire hydrant
 
Gemüsepizza;226819923 said:
Just saw the movie. Thought it was alright, until the last few minutes.

Then they screwed it all up. What a fucking stupid ending. What the fuck where they thinking? "Oh guyz, letz make this movie DIFFERENT, how about we kill ALL the main characters??? Oh god we are so fucking BRAVE and EDGY!!!1 Critics will love this film!!"

Trying to reply seriously to this post ...

Imagine they did not die.

Episode IV is just around the corner in terms of timeline. Then, you would need to see them among the rebels troops in Ep IV for realism sake.
 
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