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Rogue One: A Star Wars Story |OT| They rebel - SPOILERS

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Horse Detective said:
I was going to write a detailed review of what I liked and disliked, but midway through I realized all I was trying to convey was my obsession with Vader's design in this, and love for K2.

I can't get over how impacting I found Vader's hallway scene to be. The prequels left me with an overwhelming feeling that the Jedi just aren't important because there are so many of them. THIS film however, brought a whole new meaning to that. As a viewer, what I personally took away from this more than anything else, was how insignificant the struggles and problems of the rebels vs. empire are next to force users.
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I think the biggest point for me with Vader was that it's the only time in the entire saga that it feels like ROTS Anakin under that mask. That isn't a viewpoint I'd try to stress onto other people, but it's definitely an important piece of connective tissue for me. The Leia stuff was great for adding context to the beginning of A New Hope, but episodes I-VI really are the story of Vader being "the chosen one" and that single scene does a lot for me personally in terms of making two halves feel like one whole, even if it is just the product of filmmaking 30+years later.
 
Burt said:
I think the biggest point for me with Vader was that it's the only time in the entire saga that it feels like ROTS Anakin under that mask. That isn't a viewpoint I'd try to stress onto other people, but it's definitely an important piece of connective tissue for me. The Leia stuff was great for adding context to the beginning of A New Hope, but episodes I-VI really are the story of Vader being "the chosen one" and that single scene does a lot for me personally in terms of making two halves feel like one whole, even if it is just the product of filmmaking 30+years later.
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TCW, Rebels, Lords of the Sith, the Darth Vader comic, and now Rogue One all combined have done a great job are finally making Anakin and Vader feel like the same person.
 
Yoo.... I just saw the movie ..

IT'S THE HALO: REACH OF STAR WARS !! That's the first thing that came to my mind after seeing how it ended.

Also that Darth Vader scene was fucking incredible. Worth it for the price of admission alone.
 
sphagnum said:
TCW, Rebels, Lords of the Sith, the Darth Vader comic, and now Rogue One all combined have done a great job are finally making Anakin and Vader feel like the same person.
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Yeah, I should probably dive into some of that. I'm about 8 episodes into The Clone Wars after like 4 months, so... progress has been slow.
 
Just got back from seeing it. Thought it was awful. :( No characters, and at no point did I ever care about anything that was happening. Just wanted to get out of the theater.

I'd have to go: IV > V > VI > VII > III > RO > II > I
 
Burt said:
Yeah, I should probably dive into some of that. I'm about 8 episodes into The Clone Wars after like 4 months, so... progress has been slow.
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It starts to get really good when the dark witches appear. Best to power through the early stuff as quickly as you can.
 
Burt said:
Yeah, I should probably dive into some of that. I'm about 8 episodes into The Clone Wars after like 4 months, so... progress has been slow.
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Just skip to mid season 3. Show got good the same episode they gave Ahsoka a redesign to make her a little more mature, with the exception of a couple arcs, the rest of the first half of the series is just garbage that will hold you back.
 
Horse Detective said:
I was going to write a detailed review of what I liked and disliked, but midway through I realized all I was trying to convey was my obsession with Vader's design in this, and love for K2.

I can't get over how impacting I found Vader's hallway scene to be. The prequels left me with an overwhelming feeling that the Jedi just aren't important because there are so many of them. THIS film however, brought a whole new meaning to that. As a viewer, what I personally took away from this more than anything else, was how insignificant the struggles and problems of the rebels vs. empire are next to force users.

So many long drawn out scenes of people shooting at each other, and Vader shows up just to dance through the room dicing everyone up. It has been a LONG time since a Star Wars movie had me holding my breath to a gasp the way that did.

For all the shit I hate in this, it made Jedi feel unique and rare again. They are just on a completely different plane of significance in comparison to the petty problems the other characters face.
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I really liked the beginning of that scene where the dark corridor gets darker still just before Vader lights up his saber.
 
Monocle said:
It starts to get really good when the dark witches appear. Best to power through the early stuff as quickly as you can.
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CrichtonKicks said:
If you like space battles you start to get some really cool stuff by the end of the first season.
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Doctoglethorpe said:
Just skip to mid season 3. Show got good the same episode they gave Ahsoka a redesign to make her a little more mature, with the exception of a couple arcs, the rest of the first half of the series is just garbage that will hold you back.
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Thanks all. I like it, I just haven't felt compelled to push through it. I'll try to top off season 1 in the next day or so and see where things take me. If that doesn't work out, S3 it is.
 
Spyder_Monkey said:
Weak characters, flat performances, bland dialogue (except for the robot), non-existent arcs, the whole movie is just meh. Looked pretty though.
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I think I gave it a 7 because of the last act, and because it lead into episode 4 so well.


I didn't like half the characters, nor did some of the build up make sense. The second half of the movie, Vader scene in particular, saved the film for me.

I don't see how anyone thought this was the second best of all the films.
 
Wagram said:
Just got back from watching it. One hell of a movie. Easily better than VII and probably top 3 caliber for me.
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I go with this. Also thought it was great and overall better than VII. Except that it had even weaker main characters than VII. Donnie Yen and the Robot are the olny ones that stayed with me.

Oh... and where the fuck was the Star Wars title at the beginning? What a downer that was...
 
Spyder_Monkey said:
Weak characters, flat performances, bland dialogue (except for the robot), non-existent arcs, the whole movie is just meh. Looked pretty though.
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I thought Cassian and Jyn were both great characters and were acted well enough. The other characters didn't have much screen time or lines.
 
TheExorzist said:
Oh... and where the fuck was the Star Wars title at the beginning? What a downer that was...
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Apparently Kathleen Kennedy thinks that the side-story movies shouldn't have the opening crawl and that only the saga movies will. I personally think it's dumb that it doesn't, just don't put "Episode - whatever" before the crawl, and the expanded universe like the games and comics have been doing crawls for non-saga stories for decades.
 
The Force Awakens has terrific lead characters and Rogue One can't match that in this or any character-related regard, naw. Rogue One still has a few good crew, though. Jyn, Cassius, and K2 most of all.
 
EchoChamber said:
I feel episode III is better, I mean I enjoyed the movie but it was a disappointment until the end.
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Better than Rogue One? In what ways? I feel Rogue One was at least competent in all the areas ROTS was poor. Maybe ROTS has 1 or 2 better moments, but even that I've have to think seriously about.
 
btrboyev said:
I thought Cassian and Jyn were both great characters and were acted well enough. The other characters didn't have much screen time or lines.
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I feel like I'll forget about Cassian and Jyn in a week. I can't even remember the names of most of the characters and I saw the movie today.
 
watershed said:
Better than Rogue One? In what ways? I feel Rogue One was at least competent in all the areas ROTS was poor. Maybe ROTS has 1 or 2 better moments, but even that I've have to think seriously about.
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ROTS has probably the best flow of all SW movies which is why I personally consider it to be the best (I know, unpopular opinion). Rogue One takes a lot of time to get anywhere with the story and the entire last battle felt like it was only there for the sake of being there.
 
I definitely liked the characters more on my second viewing. While they lack a lot of development, there is development and I thought they sold the struggle very well. Above all they're likable and pretty cool. They worked for a one-off story. Characters like Rey and Finn will get more development but they have to carry three films at least.
 
Gonna do a new ranking cuz you guys like it

Empire Strikes Back/The Force Awakens
Revenge of the Sith/Rogue One
A New Hope
Attack of the Clones
Return of the Jedi
The Phantom Menace
 
TheExorzist said:
ROTS has probably the best flow of all SW movies which is why I personally consider it to be the best (I know, unpopular opinion). Rogue One takes a lot of time to get anywhere with the story and the entire last battle felt like it was only there for the sake of being there.
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I really don't agree with the last point. Nearly everything in the film is to build to the last battle. Everything from the characters resolving to invest in the rebellion to showing off how powerful the death star is and that it needs to be both heavily guarded by the Empire and stopped by the good guys. It was the point of the movie.
 
brandonh83 said:
Gonna do a new ranking cuz you guys like it

Empire Strikes Back/The Force Awakens
Revenge of the Sith/Rogue One
A New Hope
Attack of the Clones
Return of the Jedi
The Phantom Menace
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I've been out of the thread for a minute but last I checked you fucking hated Rogue One. What happened?
 
He realised it's a good movie.

Horse Detective said:
I was going to write a detailed review of what I liked and disliked, but midway through I realized all I was trying to convey was my obsession with Vader's design in this, and love for K2.

I can't get over how impacting I found Vader's hallway scene to be. The prequels left me with an overwhelming feeling that the Jedi just aren't important because there are so many of them. THIS film however, brought a whole new meaning to that. As a viewer, what I personally took away from this more than anything else, was how insignificant the struggles and problems of the rebels vs. empire are next to force users.

So many long drawn out scenes of people shooting at each other, and Vader shows up just to dance through the room dicing everyone up. It has been a LONG time since a Star Wars movie had me holding my breath to a gasp the way that did.

For all the shit I hate in this, it made Jedi feel unique and rare again. They are just on a completely different plane of significance in comparison to the petty problems the other characters face.
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Makes the search for Luke in TFA all the more important.
 
brickarts295 said:
Those last couple of minutes...
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Tarkin CG was pretty cool, but they should've only shown for a bit like Leia, his CG can become a bit too noticeable after a couple of scenes.
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I thought the CG on both was fantastic, they have pretty much come out of the uncanny valley at this point. The bigger problem with doing characters like this is the audiences brain, you know Carrie Fisher hasn't looked like that in decades, you know Peter Cushing is dead. You know the images in front of you can't be real so it's harder to let them be.
 
Leia was amazing but Tarkin was definitely very deep in the uncanny valley for me. It's the eyes mostly, but it's also in the little details, like unnatural movement of face muscles. The cgi is very advanced and impressive but it didn't look natural at all.
 
Burt said:
Thanks all. I like it, I just haven't felt compelled to push through it. I'll try to top off season 1 in the next day or so and see where things take me. If that doesn't work out, S3 it is.
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Ehhh. S2 is pretty good honestly. I'd at least watch the story arcs in episodes 5-8 and 12-14. Especially the latter, which helps set up one of the later seasons' best arcs
 
This thread has made me realize the Star Wars movie I most want to see is a black comedy about Boba Fett with a heavy dose of snarky Brit humor.
 
So, my impressions.

+ liked a lot of the cameos and 'namedropping'
+ cool shots and effects
+ I liked Krennic.
+ K-2SO
+ Mads. Guy sold his role pretty well.

- Some of those cameos could have been done more tastefully. Having Tarking 'lurking' in a reflection would work just as well (or through a hologram or something), same with Leia. It was pretty much too much fan-fodder.
- cliche story and characters (then again, Star Wars has always been a trope-fest)
- Felicity Jones. She. Was. Boring. They hit it out ot the park with Daisy Ridley (imho) but I think Jones is one of the weakest leads ever. I honestly didn't care about her for a single frame in the movie; I was more invested in her cliche-ridden co-Rebels.
- Saw Gerrera; probably he is mostly tied to Jyn's story line (which I didnt care for). Only thing I liked was when he used his aspirator and you saw Bodhi reacting to that.
 
I love a lot of the cast on paper and am a sucker for star wars but dear God was this a boring ass movie for most of its runtime. Like the characters are being funny, and you see them develop and you can tell which ones are supposed to be the crowd pleasers etc.....and yet it's still so dull to watch play out. Gareth Edwards just doesn't have it in him. I think force awakens was pretty good but wasn't as hot about it as some other people were, but I really can't see how some are putting this over it.

Was ready to write this crap off as attack of the clones tier or worse until that last half hour though. Couldn't care less about the demise of everybody but the battle scene was quite fun to watch. Especially loved seeing that shot of the x-wing jumping out of hyperspace right into the battle

But the real fuck yeah moment was Darth Vader having his Jason/Michael Meyers moment. Its one thing I think the mainline movies should take from this. Making these characters look like unstoppable gods to the force muggles.

A few other random points
- forest Whitaker going down with one of the worst SW performances playing Darth Struggle
- donnie yen vs storm troopers was excellent. Please somebody give a skilled martial artist a lightsaber in one of these movies. That was so fun to watch and he just had a stick.
- cgi Cushing was pretty impressive. The dead eyes that they always get with these means they just can't replace performances but for a small little cameo I think it's working

5/10. Movie makes me appreciate star wars 7 more in retrospect. It has its faults but the character interaction was light-years beyond this flat stuff we got here.
 
I might be alone in this but I thought the final Vader scene wasn't needed because it took away from the Jyn/Cassian death scene.The rebel flagship should have just jumped away and transmitted the plans to Leia's ship.
 
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