It's a giant Olympic Swimmer in a spacesuit.
Alien Covenant Trailer Released
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It's a giant Olympic Swimmer in a spacesuit.
Jason's Ultimatum
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I say we nuke Prometheus from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
The species that engineered the human race.
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wants to fuck an Asian grill.
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That big thing above it is it's vape rig.
Jason's Ultimatum
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It was so dumb to explore the origins of the space jockeys. It was better left as a mystery.
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Some of the Alien graphic novels and comics I had as a kid had equally dumb concepts.
hindsight sure is 20/20 on that one
man was i foolishly excited to find out more about the space jockey in prometheus...
oh to be so young and naive, again
I, too, feel like the parts where the director comes in to give direction are going to be really boring.
Psychoward
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Do any of the movies hint at that at all or is just extended universe bullshit
DoctorFling
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See, I think this is a cool as hell idea for an original sci-fi series but not tacked on to Alien
Bobby Roberts
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People talking about not letting themselves get hyped for this but this is, I think, the third thread for this movie in about 4 days.
Granted, all three threads have wilted liker gerber daisies in the gobi desert once someone rolls through and spoiler-tags the leaked plot synopsis...
Granted, all three threads have wilted liker gerber daisies in the gobi desert once someone rolls through and spoiler-tags the leaked plot synopsis...
KeyBladerXIII
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Can't wait for a new Alein vusus Pedratur.
It's not even the fourth worst in the series. Alien 3, Resurrection, AvP, and AvP:R are all so much worse. Getting kinda sick of people pretending that the newest entries in beloved franchises are the worst. No, The Force Awakens is not the worst Star Wars. No, Jurassic World is not the worst Jurassic Park. No, Prometheus is not the worst Alien. Enough of this shit.
Escape Goat
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Alein Convent looks great
We could always talk about how great Alien Resurrection is.
I wouldn't be surprised if Marvel tries exploring it years from now with the Celestials and all that.
Killer Queen
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People gotta let everyone on the internet know how my they didn't like thing so that they feel important.
Dozens of us.
It seems i'm the only asshole in this forum who enjoyed Prometheus(minus Charlize can't run to the sides and the dumb scientist fucking around with the alien snake).
At least they expanded on the lore instead of "oops,another facehugger manages to sneak around,infect someone and create havoc on another spaceship", so i appreciate what they brought to the table as a fan of the franchise.
Some fans want certain story elements to remain a mystery and others don't, it's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" kind of situation.
At least they expanded on the lore instead of "oops,another facehugger manages to sneak around,infect someone and create havoc on another spaceship", so i appreciate what they brought to the table as a fan of the franchise.
Some fans want certain story elements to remain a mystery and others don't, it's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" kind of situation.
Simo
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Well Prometheus wasn't good and Covenant is a sequel to that with the same guy at the helm, what do you expect? Of course people who didn't like the previous film are going to air their grievances lol
Bobby Roberts
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Prometheus is not as bad as any of the Alien vs Predator movies.
It is worse than Alien 3 though.
Yea it doesn't sound promising
Its not good to post while Drunk, LOL.
Monocle
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I thought it was a decent idea. It could have been executed better, but the concept is good because it opens up opportunities to see more interesting, exotic things in the Alien universe.
Dash_Riprock
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People don't like it when the latest film in a beloved franchise fails to meet expectations.
Shocking, I know.
Monocle
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No kidding.
The whining is excessive. It's been established that the movie is subpar compared to the first two movies. No need to endlessly indulge in ridiculous hyperbole, when a lot of people find the movie perfectly enjoyable despite its flaws.
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Agreed. Not that I have made it all the way through an Alien vs Predator film.
Killer Queen
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Psychoward
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Looks like we're getting in to rankings territory
Alien> Aliens> Alien 3 > Prometheus> Resurrection = AvP 1 = Avp 2
Tbh I don't remember the Avp movies or resurrection at all so there may be a clear standout or failure there. I just know I can confidently put them all at the bottom.
Alien> Aliens> Alien 3 > Prometheus> Resurrection = AvP 1 = Avp 2
Tbh I don't remember the Avp movies or resurrection at all so there may be a clear standout or failure there. I just know I can confidently put them all at the bottom.
Bobby Roberts
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Yeah, but if you expand on the "lore" poorly, how much good is it to have done so at all? I mean, "at least they ______" is almost always an admission shit went sideways and someone's just trying to salvage the misstep. To use the Star Wars example, it's almost 20 years later and that "expansion of the the lore" is still being more or less rehabbed by the studio via hours and hours of additional material.
It doesn't have to be some sort of conspiracy or psychoanalysis of what's wrong with the viewer when there's a disagreement about film. That's usually where people get tripped up. It could be that they just didn't like how what was there got executed. Often, that really is all it is. Not deluded people telling lies to themselves, not insecure people making up stories to impress strangers. It's just people bullshitting about movies and saying what they think.
Whether they thought about it much, that's something else, but I've found that most of the time, people aren't really faking their feelings to the extent most people in these discussions thinks as a base assumption.
Preach.
That would be my ranking too in full. I like Aliens but Alien always stuck out as the best and that never changed throughout the years and subsequent rewatching of both films.
Psychoward
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Lmao yeah that's it and it's not just a really panned movie? At this point if I had to wager people doing something just to feel important it would be liking Prometheus since it gets shit on and off the internet constantly for having god awful writing.
Why is that like the number one defense by people who like something that a lot of people don't like? That they're doing it to be edgy or whatever and not just because a lot of people think it's bad.
Bobby Roberts
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You pretty much have it right. If I had to rank them in tiers:
The Best Horror Film of All-Time Tier
ALIEN
One of the Ten Best Action Films Ever Made Tier
ALIENS
Broken and Frustrating Tier
Alien 3
..
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Prometheus
Gloryhallastoopid Tier
Alien Resurrection
Alien vs Predator
Pour the Lead!
Alien vs. Predator: Requiem
(Prometheus just baaaaaarely misses going in the Gloryhallastoopid tier, mostly because it's not trying to be as dumb as it is, where AvP & Resurrection are reveling in their ridiculous stupidity)
Killer Queen
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7/10 IDMB
72% RT
65% MT
Yeah a lot of people sure do just hate this "panned" movie.
Bobby Roberts
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But they do, though.
Do you honestly think those people are lying about it? To either you or themselves?
What point is there in doing that?
Well I mean there was the the ritual sacrifice at the beginning of Prometheus that ultimately led to humans. There is also the scenes that showed they had direct contact with humans up until 2,000 years ago with the hieroglyphs and messages scattered throughout earth. It's not a stretch to believe the played a role in the development of man. I've not watched the film in a long time and don't ever intend to, but there are probably other references.
Killer Queen
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Considering how often this forum goes off of RT to judge how most people feel about a movie, a 28% dislike rating would put them in the minority, it's not the fact that they don't like it it's the fact that people continue to try to pass it off as if its the general consensus that this movie is terrible when well clearly its not.
I don't really care whether someone else likes or dislikes something though it does get grating when people get militant about it.
Orbis Tabula
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i always prefferd the aleins from idenpendendneys day
Psychoward
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http://www.metacritic.com/movie/alien-resurrection
That's a whole two points above Alien Resurrection. Plus if you don't realize that people generally tend to be more critical after the initial wave of hype has died down than I don't know what to tell you. I'm sure the star wars prequels RT dislike ratio is in the minority as well, that doesn't mean they're not heavily panned.
Any in-depth review by a dedicated fan of the series is gonna shit on it and for good reason.
Bobby Roberts
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But you do care. It's the entirety of your presence in the thread this morning. You care that people dont' like a thing and are saying so in a place where you can read it.
Nobody's being militant about it, Jesus. It's a bad movie. Its badness is going to get brought up in a thread (the third one to be recently created and/or bumped in the last few days) about its immediate follow-up.
They were gud aleins, bront
There aren't that many flaws, and most of them are explained by scenes that fox inexplicably cut.
Dedicated fans are dumb, then.
Killer Queen
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5.8 score for Alien Resurrection Vs A 6.6 for Prometheus if you want to go by actual ratings.
And I'd put a 6.6 movie squarely in alright to decent.
I mean, if posting snarky comments means I care then so be it.
And not in this instance no, no one's being militant about it, but I've been dogpiled for saying I like it, and I'd consider that being "militant".
I still enjoyed Prometheus as it's a really gorgeous movie, stellar production design and some cool characters with great performances. I truly think the Engineer was a really interesting character, and the Dark Horse comics have certainly made some cool stories with it. So it's not all wasted. 
Unfortunately, Prometheus betrays much of what made the earlier films so great. Alien, Aliens, and Alien 3 had elements of lovecraftian and cosmic horror, which is essentially about mankind coming into contact with something that's beyond their comprehension and control, and paying dearly for it. Prometheus totally went against that. Making the engineers the creators of humanity ended up weakening the other movies. I'm still surprised that Ridley Scott had such a misread on what made the originals so good. The scene were they enter the derelict ship for the first time in Alien is soured now that they've established that the thing in the chair helped created mankind. We don't need all the answers, just enough to know that the characters are in too deep. That's really it.
I'm hoping they won't focus too much on that in this new movie. I really want them to nail it, as it'd be nice to have another solid Alien movie that people can get behind, but the rumors got me really worried that they're gonna try to tie a bow it all once again. We really don't need that.
Unfortunately, Prometheus betrays much of what made the earlier films so great. Alien, Aliens, and Alien 3 had elements of lovecraftian and cosmic horror, which is essentially about mankind coming into contact with something that's beyond their comprehension and control, and paying dearly for it. Prometheus totally went against that. Making the engineers the creators of humanity ended up weakening the other movies. I'm still surprised that Ridley Scott had such a misread on what made the originals so good. The scene were they enter the derelict ship for the first time in Alien is soured now that they've established that the thing in the chair helped created mankind. We don't need all the answers, just enough to know that the characters are in too deep. That's really it.
I'm hoping they won't focus too much on that in this new movie. I really want them to nail it, as it'd be nice to have another solid Alien movie that people can get behind, but the rumors got me really worried that they're gonna try to tie a bow it all once again. We really don't need that.
Psychoward
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That's not even a full point difference, you're kidding yourself.
And how is Metacritic not actual ratings now? You were the one who initially used it to help prove your point. Additionally you failed to respond to the rest of the context in my post about how ratings aren't the be all, end all for how movies are received.
Killer Queen
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The 6.6 score is from metacritic.
And there is no be all end all for how movies are received, but it's definitely not the general consensus that the movie is terrible despite how often people will push that view on here to further validate their own opinion.
People constantly use online scores to argue that most people hate DC movies, so why is it no longer a viable tactic to argue that people (the majority) do like this film despite people on GAF not liking it?
Best psot of the thraed.
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