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What a boring movie, first movie in a while I don't really want to watch again.
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story |OT| They rebel - SPOILERS
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Hasphat'sAnts
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I wish I liked it as much as you guys did. Y'all watched a much better movie than me. :/
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8th Star Wars movie.
(just the guess I've seen gain the most traction. I don't think anyone's actually said one way or the other)
Ha. My nostrils recoiled when I read its name.
Finally saw it. I think it's the best post-original trilogy star wars film released but it wasn't perfect. It felt like they had 5 hours worth of stuff to explain in the short time limit they had so it felt rushed, but overall it was really enjoyable for me. I was impressed with the CG characters, particularly Tarkin. I didn't even notice he was CG until after the movie ended (I did question it originally because I thought he died, but I thought it was maybe just excellent makeup on someone else).
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This conceptual art hot daaaaaaamn
CloudyTuba
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I just used a Christmas giftcard to order the art book from Amazon. I am excited!
Also that art is so good that it makes the movie equivalent look sad.
His job pre-Empire was energy research, mainly with Kyber Crystals(what Jedi use for their lightsabers). When he started working with the Republic and then later the Empire he thought he was researching a way to develop cheap but powerful energy to under developed worlds when in reality his research was being used for the super laser in the Death Star. When he finds out he escapes with his wife and Jyn. Queue the beginning of Rogue One.
Source - Catalyst: A Rogue One Novel
crazy monkey
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Liked it more than force awakens. Villan in fa was bad.
afternoon delight
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Removing the gigantic anchor lines was a sin!
I'm also very interested in the art book as well.
Monocle
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Of course they expected that. Disney bought Star Wars and then immediately announced like five movies in a row, do you think they would have done that if they didn't expect them to be hits? It's not like that's an outlandish expectation, given the money printing franches SW has always been. The bar was so low that all they had to do was make something that was literally just not prequel-level bad and they were guaranteed to rake it in.
KeyBladerXIII
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I legitamately thought that was his full name until a couple days ago. I thought people were shortening it to fit the 4-digit designation for other droids.
bishopcruz
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Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
The Silver
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Seeing Rogue One and all the drama about the Death Star it really does make Starkiller Base feel even more ridiculous. That thing was a pure "my dick is bigger" weapon from its inception and there just wasn't a proper reaction or build up to a thing of that magnitude, and it just resolves in kind of a wimper.
Just saw this movie. Felt like it started a little slow, but that otherwise fantastic.
That last scene was the scariest Vader has been since Empire. Fuck.
To sum up this movie:
This post sums up my feelings. My friends and I were making bets on the order of deaths haha. I was only a little surprised that they all died.
CloudyTuba
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Those are neat but what I'm interested in the story the image is telling. It looks like the R1 crew are having to sneak into the city at dusk, watching lines of imperial prisoners(?) being ushered in or out of the city under the watch of multiple AT-STs. Your standard sneak into the city at night avoiding guards kind of scene.
That would have been awesome. In the movie they just sort of cut to the characters already inside during the day, right? Then explosions happen. The story this image tells is way more interesting than what we actually got.
valkillmore
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Saw it thus afternoon. I enjoyed it more than TFA, more than the prequel trilogy and more than Return of the Jedi. That fucking final third of the movie did me in, it was, for me, exhilarating to watch. I knew next to nothing about the movie going in and I just loved it.
I saw this last night. First up I have to say I wasn't looking forward to it, I didn't like FA and I wouldn't have gone but my GF wanted to check it out.
I have to say I was very pleasantly surprised, It could be because I had really low expectations though. I didn't like the male lead that much but everyone else was fairly good. The story was a bit all over the place, and I would have preferred it to be a little less personal save my dad etc, etc, but it was probably the least soap opera Star Wars has ever been.
I really liked the "military movie" style it was going for.
I have to say I was very pleasantly surprised, It could be because I had really low expectations though. I didn't like the male lead that much but everyone else was fairly good. The story was a bit all over the place, and I would have preferred it to be a little less personal save my dad etc, etc, but it was probably the least soap opera Star Wars has ever been.
I really liked the "military movie" style it was going for.
It's weird, I was expecting not to like this movie after hearing all the complaints about bland tone and lifeless characters... And I really enjoyed it.
I think it's the best looking Star Wars movie (Outside of CGI Peter Cushing, which looked terrible). Absolutely gorgeous lighting and camera angles. I'm impressed because while Gareth Edwards' previous movies often looked good, nothing in them indicated a movie that could look like this.
I thought the characters were well-defined and at least serviceable, with certain characters (Blind religious guy and K2-SO) having standout moments. Character development was minimal, but not non-existent like I'd been led to believe.
I thought the movie went for some memorable moves, like the ending just
I'm not sure whether I liked the movie more or less than The Force Awakens. They have different virtues, which is a good sign for Star Wars movies going forward.
I think it's the best looking Star Wars movie (Outside of CGI Peter Cushing, which looked terrible). Absolutely gorgeous lighting and camera angles. I'm impressed because while Gareth Edwards' previous movies often looked good, nothing in them indicated a movie that could look like this.
I thought the characters were well-defined and at least serviceable, with certain characters (Blind religious guy and K2-SO) having standout moments. Character development was minimal, but not non-existent like I'd been led to believe.
I thought the movie went for some memorable moves, like the ending just
wiping out the cast in a glorious way.
I'm not sure whether I liked the movie more or less than The Force Awakens. They have different virtues, which is a good sign for Star Wars movies going forward.
Boogalogist
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I went with 2 friends who aren't really Star Wars fans....and neither of them knew Tarkin and Leia were CGI.
I almost cried when I saw Leia at the end....
I almost cried when I saw Leia at the end....
Kylo Ren is a fantastic villain
He really is, and is also one of the best parts of TFA.
Krennic was kinda a weak villain in comparison, but that's okay because unlike TFA the movie didn't spend tons of time on the villain.
eyeball_kid
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Yes, Krennic didn't need to be a memorable villain because Rogue One was about a small team using their special skills against an overwhelming force. A movie focused on a few characters and a lot of heart. Or at least it should have been, but instead we got a giant space battle that had no reason to receive more than a few seconds of screen time, plodding dialogue of Empire squabbling that really had nothing to do with the story arc, and half-baked main characters that were vastly underused and killed off far too quickly.
I honestly didn't see any of the main characters as being killed off too quickly. They all had a good amount of time and managed to accomplish something in character or plot action during that time.
I sorta agree about the space battle; it suffers a similar problem to TFA's final fighter battle in that it doesn't actually involve the main characters. However, I think it was more engaging than TFA's battle, partially because unlike TFA the battle actually correlated to the main characters' goal.
I didn't know until reading through this thread. I assumed at first Tarkin was CG but then I just thought they got a really good lookalike. Reading CGI complaints on the internet confuses me sometimes.
It looked obvious to me but Tarkin looked better than Leia.
Just got back from a showing with my wife. She didn't know they were CG either. I think they did a terrific job.
That Vader scene, holy fuck, might be the single best scene in all of Star Wars history. It was so perfect. Almost Raimi-like.
I didn't really notice anything wrong with Leia... Probably because she appears so briefly.
I feel like Tarkin should have been shot with his face obscured or hidden in shadow most of the time, with only a few brief clear shots.
My GF just started laughing when Tarkin showed up, she thought it looked terrible.
I thought it was almost passable.
eyeball_kid
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Sure, I didn't hate the space battle; it was cool, but it also didn't serve the story. See, I think what the writer/director got wrong is they thought the story was just about stealing the death star plans, and all these complex chess pieces moving about. RotJ got caught up in that also. But the story was supposed to be about the main characters. Sure, it was about a daring raid to steal the plans, but the best war heist movies combine both preparation and execution of those plans, as well as exploring the characters and the interplay between them. Bridge on the River Kwai for instance, The Seven Samurai, or even Saving Private Ryan. RO never made us really care about the characters except for K-2SO, and honestly the droid is really the only one I felt sad about when it 'died'.
Maybe it's cause I didn't watch in IMAX or something, I thought he was real. Leia on the other hand was a little obvious, but still looked great.
ZackieChan
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That's a bold statement.
I'm glad that I live in the real world where everyone I've seen it with loved it, doesn't nitpick it to death or complain incessantly about inconsistencies that doesn't even really exist or are really inconsequential. I understand that this is a discussion forum, but I hope you guys come up for air every once in a while. It always makes me laugh/sad that the people who are supposed to be the biggest fans of these kinds of genre films are the ones who seem to hate them the most.
I have to disagree with the bolder. Each main character is likeable, goes through their own character arc, and it was legitimately tragic when they passed.
RO nailed the sense that they literally have ever last bit of themselves to get those plans off world, and I feel it contributed very positively to ANH.
Because of how terrible she looked?
Leia and Tarking were so obviously CGI it kinda ruined their scenes for me. Tarkin looked OK but Leia was just a mess. They should've handled this differently. Try showing their faces the least amount of time possible or use holograms would've been much better.
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Indeed. I think it's because his character spoke to the cynic in me.
CrimsonSquall
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It's just super high expectations braj for a beloved franchise. I personally enjoyed it but felt it went on too long. Characters were just kinda boring compared to TFA which was an inevitable comparison. I feel like the best part of the movie was Vader which is weak bc he was largely miniscule in representation in the movie anyway
So much hyperbole. The CGI was great and all I see here on gaf is needless nitpicking about it.
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LOL
The way I see it, the entire point of having a blind force sensitive character in this film (a prequel to ANH) was to set up the theme that "your eyes can deceive you, trust in the force" or however Obi Wan says that line to Luke. Donnie Yen's character is meant to remind us of Luke training against the remote with his eyes covered and (especially) the scene where he disables his targeting computer to deliver the shot that blows up the Death Star.
Also, I think he does dodge a few lasers rather than walking in a completely straight line.
There's no hyperbole. It's just my opinion. Those characters look too fake to me. I appreciate the effort, it was certainly not an easy task, but it ruins their scenes.
What happened with Saw Gerrera's hair anyway? In the trailer's he's had a shaved head or longer hair. Reshoots?
Edit: Well not "ruins" their scenes but it's all I can think about when their faces were on screen.
efyu_lemonardo
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Peter is looking pretty good for 103 years old
Is it just me or does his entire head structure not look off? Too long and thin, compared to the original? Perhaps the eyes a bit too close to each other, as well?
I keep telling myself there's no way they made such basic errors but it bothers me whenever I see it...
Edit: added real picture for comparison
I'm sure if you click a "random" page (out of 200) you can find a reason that suits you as to why his hair is gone.
Your mind knowns they are fake because they move "different" when compared to the actors around them and that said actors have "died". Your brain tells you something is off .. That, and the lightning on a CGI character is tough to pull off ... There's always something off. Doesn't mean the CGI was terrible. Far from it.
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Wow, i enjoyed this movie way more than ep.7.
You're right, I shouldn't have used the word terrible. It's just obvious they were fake.
It's usually the lighting that gives it away. And sometimes some muscle movement is off.
But yeah, not terrible, just clearly cgi to me.
I enjoyed 7 more. But that had to do with the fact that we got another Star Wars movie after 10 years. Felt great. That being said, I did enjoy the "action" in Rogue One more.
It's obvious because you know, in a 2016 ... that the actor who plays Tarkin is dead. And Carrie Fissher (who died yesterday) isn't that young anymore. Doesn't matter how well they do it ... it just feels off. There's no "weight" to CGI characters. Still, a bold move to incorporate said characters in Rogue One. It's always the "movement" or eyes that give it away
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