SprachBrooks
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Yup. Another reason why I don't purchase Nintendo products.
There's a bizarre veneration associated with Nintendo.
As a consumer, I like Nintendo's policy to maintain games' prices
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Yup. Another reason why I don't purchase Nintendo products.
There's a bizarre veneration associated with Nintendo.
That's false. Nintendo games have more legs than the majority of games.
clockworkinyou
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The poster you initially responded to was asking what the difference was between premium buy and premium trade vs discount buy and discount trade. What your saying is there isn't any tangible difference because it depends on waiting for specific deals etc.
So,seeing as there isn't a real tangible benefit for the traders it leaves the Nintendo pricing system to be shitty for consumers then,because less people can afford to buy more Nintendo games.
blankempathy
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No what I'm saying is it depends on how long you wait. There's a difference between waiting for a sale and waiting for price drops. Even if you waited a year for those games to hit 20 dollars if you wait another to resell or trade them in they could be worth a 1/4 of the price you paid today. Let's pretend the switch wasn't coming out. Those nintendo games would still make you far more back % wise because third party games still price drop faster and lower than certain nintendo games. of course not all third party but typically the as a games with yearly releases or the ones with an inevitable goty version are prime candidates.
But if you are using that extra money back on Nintendo games then you will be paying more for them, so the benefit is lost essentially.
There is also nothing stopping someone from trading non-Nintendo games early,keeping store credit, then using that to buy games at a later date.
Stallion Dan
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I prefer to wait 2-6 months and buy a game for as little as 25% of the price, 50% at most.
Wanted a Wii U but was never buying that console just to pay full price for most of the games I wanted even though some were several years old. One Nintendo game vs 2-4 games on PS4? Nintendo got no chance.
Don't see the Switch doing well unless Nintendo adapt to current market, in UK anyway.
Wanted a Wii U but was never buying that console just to pay full price for most of the games I wanted even though some were several years old. One Nintendo game vs 2-4 games on PS4? Nintendo got no chance.
Don't see the Switch doing well unless Nintendo adapt to current market, in UK anyway.
blankempathy
Member
Umm the same could be said about every game. Also who said I have to use money I made back specifically to buy more nintendo games? if I'm waiting for my games to hit 30 dollars then it's very unlikely I'm going to get 30 dollars back when I trade them in. gamestop is giving 5 - 2.50 for those games I listed. Of course with the aggressive sales during the holidays some companies may fail to adjust trade ins accordingly. Hell I bought ffxv for $30 from New egg at launch and ended up trading it into gamestop and made 11 dollars. That typically doesn't happen though. Once games start dropping in price and it's not some crazy sale their trade in values go with them. You could buy a game, beat it right away and then flip it for a maximum profit but people don't always have time to do that. The whole point of a game retaining by value is that you don't have to do that. You can take your time enjoy it and play it as much as you want and then sell it a year or two later and still get a good amount back. just a note but splatoon has the same trade in value of ffxv and one of those games is more then a year old. Just for the record I get why people wait on buying games and hate the nintendo premium. I mean as a pc gamer that's practically our motto thanks to stuff like humble bundles etc. still though sometimes I do want to buy a game at launch and sometimes it's nice to know that I have the option to sell it for a decent amount a year later.
We're talking past each other. I'm specifically talking about the argument regarding nintendo games retaining a high price, I am under the opinion it's not great for consumers (apart from die hard fans etc).
You seem to mostly just br pleased that when you decide to trade your Nintendo games you get a good price,regardless of the affect on the person buying from you, and you somehow see that as justification for the pricing strategy?
FalsettoVibe
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FalsettoVibe
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Fixed for you.
Sumio Mondo
Member
That you need to mention this is in itself a sad state. I often (sadly) see people on here sucking up to their corporate overlords. It's business, ffs, it's not even complicated.
blankempathy
Member
Maybe not every consumer is the same? If you're the type who waits for games to get cheap then ya Nintendo's strategy does nothing for you. if you like to buy your games at launch and want to resell them later on you'd probably appreciate games holding their value. And yes I do see plenty of people upset that nintendo games don't drop in price like their competitors yet I also see those upset that a game they just bought is 30-20 dollars cheaper a month later or even within the same month. of you think you can get more out of 3 20 dollar games go for it. If I feel a game is worth 60 dollars that's also my choice to make. it's like the whole mmo subscription argument. Some people can't fathom paying monthly yet for a lot of people it ends up being the only game they play so they can justify the monthly fee.
I buy games for whatever price I fancy, early and high, late and low. Unlike the people you mention at the end I don't give a shit what other people are paying compared to what I paid,which is my main issue in all of this discussion. I want as many people playing as many games as possible, which isn't essentially what Nintendo want by the looks of things
walking fiend
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And people who don't support Nintendo's policy are sucking up to the other corporations policies.
Did you think before posting this? Please support this claim with even the most marginal level of reasoning possible.
I pretty much feel the same. Hell, I am now playing games a year or two later. If you don't play games that often, it's a good strategy.
Lol what
Unknown Soldier
Member
FTFY
walking fiend
Member
I have already done so and if people had better reading comprehension and were willing to put some think into any kind of reasoning, they would have already, so I don't see a need to provide more reason for hit and run comments that just want to make themselves feel good by calling me a corporate apologist.
How am I sucking up if I choose to wait a few weeks after release in order to get games cheaper?
Living the Dream
Member
Policies being great discounts and cheaper prices?
blankempathy
Member
Maybe you don't care but for some people it's hard to justify paying an extra 20-30 dollars when a game price drops hard. Again not all consumers are the same. You want people playing as many games as possible? Even as someone who games extensively I can barely get though one game a month if even that. Especially if there's a game like overwatch eating up a lot of my gaming time. it's not always about quantity. Having tons of games is nice but sometimes finding one game and sinking a ridiculous amount of time into that is nice too. And I personally have sunk a lot of time into certain nintendo games.
walking fiend
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For probably the 4th time in this thread: good for you if you don't want to play the games early or if you want to just collect video games instead of playing. 'I' (as difficult as it is for some people to understand in this thread, 'I' connotes a subjective perspective that might not be applicable to everyone), like to buy and play the games at launch and be done with them.
Other publishers price gouge the early adopters, and I don't like that.
Insulting people's reading ability is definitely the best possible way to get people to see your side of an argument. You've got this on lock.
Nintendo is the definitive edition of Stockholm Syndrome.
For select Nintendo games it works.
For LEGOs, it is pretty much a purchase strategy.
Nintendo is the definitive edition of "Thank you sir, may I have another?"
Well if he ment last gen he might be sort of right because i did not see sales like this on psn and xboxlive on ps3 and 360 as good as steam until the end of that generation (in Europe atleast, dunno about USA).
This gen really is good with digital sales on Psn and xboxlive tho grabbed uncharted 4 for cheap, Mad max, Ratchet and Clank and some more.
Would be cool if Nintendo follows up with Switch if not then tough luck and just another Zelda, Mario and Pokemon machine for me.
Not gonna pay 60 for year+ old games 30 max.
I'm glad consoles now have great sales and Nintendo should follow and not STAY behind again.
walking fiend
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Honestly, I don't care. If someone's best reaction to this thread is posting a one-liner mocking me for being a corporate apologist, without having even read the first page of the thread, I am sure they are either dumb or a dick, and I don't believe in wasting my time trying to pursue every dumb or asshole on a forum (or maybe they have anger control issue? I don't know, I should say I am not sure what motivates them to act so, but I don't care to pursue their motivation either.)
Lol your whole argument in favor of paying Nintendo's higher prices has collecting and value tied directly to it.
People want to pay less for games. That's it.
Jawmuncher
Member
I'd rather a game gets dirt cheap, than hold any sort of price. I'm not trying to sell these later on to make a profit or something.
Nydius
Member
Price gouging? What nonsense is this?
Publishers still release their games around $60 for the base game. After that initial launch window drops, they want more people to buy the games so they drop the price. Or if the game isn't received well, they may drop the price as a financial incentive for people on the fence to buy the game. Neither scenario is price gouging. Would you accuse Gearbox of "price gouging" Battleborn, I mean what with the 50%+ drop that game saw within a month?
Trying to charge someone full price for a years old game, especially when some of the elements of said game (namely multiplayer communities, etc) are no longer available or are a shell of what they had been when the game was new is closer to (but still not entirely) the definition of price gouging. Case in point: Splatoon. Great game. Still has a decent online presence. But you know one thing they marketed the game on? Splatfests. Those are gone, never to return (until whatever Switch brings). So if I pay $60 now for Splatoon, I'm getting a smaller online community and no recurring community contests. But that's fine because.. value or something?
walking fiend
Member
Posting gifs doesn't make your argument any more valid. You don't pay higher prices as an early adopter when you buy Nintendo games. Video games are more or less the same price at launch regardless of the publisher. The only difference is that Nintendo games retain their value even post launch, while almost no other games do.
Lol your whole argument in favor of paying Nintendo's higher prices has collecting and value tied directly to it.
People want to pay less for games. That's it.
I am happy you agree that it 'is' indeed a policy to reduce the game price and not just a market imperative (as is in the case of Battleborn or other games that bomb heavily). When publishers reduce the price of their games, one reason is to kill the used game market.
Also, look at this:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1282010
It is up to you to decide whether a game offers enough value to justify its price tag or not. For other people who like to collect games later in their life cycle, Nintendo's policy might not be favorable. I am not in that group, so I am okay with that.
Nintendo does eventually discount many of their games under the Selects(greatest hits) brand name.
And there are always a handful of good sales during the year.
... plus used prices often are much cheaper than new. I mean even tho Mario Kart 8 is $60 still, you could find used copies on Ebay, in like new to great shape, for $35 over the past year or two.
IF Gamestop runs a B2G1 sale you can get 3 Nintendo games for $100 if you're a Pro member.
And there are always a handful of good sales during the year.
... plus used prices often are much cheaper than new. I mean even tho Mario Kart 8 is $60 still, you could find used copies on Ebay, in like new to great shape, for $35 over the past year or two.
IF Gamestop runs a B2G1 sale you can get 3 Nintendo games for $100 if you're a Pro member.
Unless you're treating games as an investment, why does this matter do you as a consumer?
Either I'm not explaining myself properly, you aren't reading what I'm saying, you're reading what you want to read, or something else. like I said, we're talking past each other so I'm just gonna cut my losses
Having to jump though hoops to get slightly older games for a reasonable price is not great.
greenhadoken
Member
OP I agree with you man. I've been burned far too often recently on day one purchases with other companies. As someone who just recently entered the SNES scene, I can say that the majority of games published by Nintendo still have remarkable resell value, as I'm going broke trying to complete my collection. I get that people like when games are cheap, so do I, but I feel like I'm getting ripped off for buying something day one with other publishers. Plus if you're okay with waiting for games to get cheap, there are ways to get Nintendo games cheap. Buy 2 get 1 sales, discounts on pre-orders through prime or Best Buy, I almost always get some sort of deal on their stuff. I'm saying all of this without even diving into the sustainability of a market that sells new games at $20 two weeks after launch.
So if it's such an issue then why don't you just rent your games? There is absolutely no way that you're selling these games and getting the exact same amount of money that you paid into it.
Maybe you should get your FOMO under control. Waiting a few weeks isn't going to kill you.
blankempathy
Member
Yeah using the internet to shop around or literally just waiting for a sale is jumping through hoops. Information at our finger tips yet we can't be bothered to use it.
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I don't think you understand what value means. Nintendo is essentially telling you that the value is the same yet the rest of the real world is not. It's artificially inflated really. Kinda like the old school days of Nintendo price fixing.
How about "not ideal". I'm not claiming it's the worst thing in the world.
WrenchNinja
Member
Instead of reconsidering your postion when most people call you out on it, you double down
InfiniteCombo
Banned
You're my fucking hero, seriously. You've said this better than I ever could.
With my experience on GAF, the extreme Nintendo fans are by far the most delusional, the ones with the best mental gymnastics, the most hardcore defense force for the most shitty Nintendo policies, and the ones easiest to follow some cult of personality (Miyamoto, that fucking troll Reggie, and Iwata, may he rest in peace).
The premise of this thread is just another example of this fanaticism. Christ.
walking fiend
Member
That is not true; if it was artificially inflated, you wouldn't be able to sell your games at the price that Nintendo sets. However, since usually there is actual demand for Nintendo games, you can sell your used copies at a high price. (and of course, the whole value of any kind of artistic product is somewhat artificial/subjective)
Because I usually don't have too much time to finish a video game in a week or two. These days it takes me at least a few weeks to finish a single player game (sometimes months).
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