Eurogamer: Zelda's launch timing in Europe is still unclear

When should Zelda: Breath of the Wild release in Europe?


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Rodin

Member
Yeah I'm sure that the translation of 4 dialogue boxes in 3 languages will be a problem, especially when Xenoblade Chronicles X was released the same day in both NA and Europe.

It's not possible that no one told Eurogamer that it will be at launch in Europe as well, or that their leaky source was fed with bullshit and possibly got his ass fired.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
And people need to stop policing rumour threads with "it's not official yet". Well, doh!

Discussion is still allowed even if it's a rumour.

Nah, people have been going too crazy about all the unconfirmed Switch information - no need to loose your head a week before the we get the official info. Some Gaffer have been so wrapped up in the rumor action that there is no difference between Nintendo and EG/LPVG etc.

Nintendo hasnt even announced the new Mario title but everyone was expecting it to launch with the console in march, while Zelda got delayed to summer. Now we have this...all im saying is things change all the time - just because EG doesnt have someone confirming/leaking the latest status update doesnt mean a delay is happening.

NoE/Shibata not being able to get Zelda for launch when the other markets get it would be crazy though - hard to believe.
 

Eolz

Member
What the hell is NOE doing?
They got cuts that had more an impact on them doing less localizations in favor of Treehouse (that got worse) instead, but they should have still been able to plan that.

Region free is not supposed to be for a first party not doing their job at this level...
 
Assuming development on Zelda was done 24 months ago is an insult to the dev team who worked over their holidays to finish the game - Aonuma already confirmed this:

I'm sorry but this isn't a excuse at all.

Wii U was a big flop. They need to have a succesful launch with Switch, in all territories. BotW has been in development for so many years, alot of the main dialogue could've been translated already. Zelda is also one of the flagship IP's for US/EU.

I'm sorry, but if the game isn't ready for launch, they messed up.
 

oti

Banned
Sell it in Europe with the English language, patch the other languages in later on. DO NOT miss launch, Nintendo!

One of Nintendo's biggest strengths is that parents trust them blindly. Could you imagine a kid crying after playing Zelda because it's not in German?
 

PtM

Banned
They should take all the time they need to polish it up.

Always remember, guys, a rushed game is bad forever.
 

-shadow-

Member
Great times. Nintendo of Europe had a huge marketing budget to do this Jedward thing for Dragon Quest IX, they were able to justify localising niche games into 5 languages all on their own for one region (Last Window, Another Code R), games like Kirby's Epic Yarn had all the voiceovers rerecorded with a different accent, etc.
But off topic but. The European Epic Yarn voice over is by far the best version. That British accent is amazing!
 

KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
Nah, people have been going too crazy about all the unconfirmed Switch information - no need to loose your head a week before the we get the official info. Some Gaffer have been so wrapped up in the rumor action that there is no difference between Nintendo and EG/LPVG etc.

Nintendo hasnt even announced the new Mario title but everyone was expecting it to launch with the console in march, while Zelda got delayed to summer. Now we have this...all im saying is things change all the time - just because EG doesnt have someone confirming/leaking the latest status update doesnt mean a delay is happening.

NoE/Shibata not being able to get Zelda for launch when the other markets get it would be crazy though - hard to believe.

In this case it really doesn't matter. If Nintendo announces Zelda launching fully in Europe at the same time, everybody will be happy and this thread will be forgotten. If they will have some workaround then this thread has soften the blow and any workaround will be better than a delay.

So let the people discuss. If they want to vent, let them vent. It's up to mods to decide when something is blown out of proportions.
 
I'm sorry but this isn't a excuse at all.

Wii U was a big flop. They need to have a succesful launch with Switch, in all territories. BotW has been in development for so many years, alot of the main dialogue could've been translated already. Zelda is also one of the flagship IP's for US/EU.

I'm sorry, but if the game isn't ready for launch, they messed up.

I never said it's an excuse, I'm saying the game's development wasn't finished 24 months ago, as if it's just been sitting on the shelf finished.

I agree that it should be ready for launch in Europe. I think it'll be better to discuss this sort of thing once we know what the extent of the delay is on the 12th - the European delay might be either a few weeks after launch or months after. If it's out in the summer then yup, they messed up.
 

Mithos

Member
Region free -> import
Not region free -> sad

We'll see next week.

But what if the eShop is region locked, and DLC can only be accessed through the US eShop (if DLC comes for Breath of the Wild), will Nintendo have eShop region free or will I/we be able to have an US eShop account, EUR eShop account and an JAP eShop account on the same Switch?
 

Scrawnton

Member
I remember I was given crap in the Switch discussion thread when I said Nintendo would do exactly this. Yeah it would be cool for all territories to have Zelda at the same time but if the options are to delay it world wide or launch it with the Switch in America and Japan of course Nintendo was gonna delay it for Europe. They are not going to jeopardize the LAUNCH OF THE SWITCH in America and Japan just because Zelda isn't ready in Europe.
 

KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
What the hell is NOE doing?
They got cuts that had more an impact on them doing less localizations in favor of Treehouse (that got worse) instead, but they should have still been able to plan that.

Region free is not supposed to be for a first party not doing their job at this level...

It could totally be out of hand of NoE. If the article is right and this was decided despite NoE asking for a delay, then they just got handed a hot potato.
 

thomasmahler

Moon Studios
Fuck Nintendo if that's true. Launching a game like Zelda months later in Europe is bullshit that was okay in the 90s, but not in todays time. With digital distribution today, this shit would be completely inexcusable - Not ready with translations, even though you folks had 5+ years of dev time? Then let me download the US version.
 
Fuck them so hard if they delay the EU release until summer or some shit. I thought we were past this bullshit.

Why such a bad attitude towards the people who make the game? It's not like you can get your Zelda fix somewhere else. The game wouldn't exist without Nintendo.
 
It could totally be out of hand of NoE. If the article is right and this was decided despite NoE asking for a delay, then they just got handed a hot potato.

Is there any reason why NoJ would do that?
I mean, it's beneficial for them that all territories have a good launch, right? NoJ, NoA, NoE is still just basically Nintendo, right?
 

Scrawnton

Member
Fuck Nintendo if that's true. Launching a game like Zelda months later in Europe is bullshit that was okay in the 90s, but not in todays time. With digital distribution today, this shit would be completely inexcusable - Not ready with translations, even though you folks had 5+ years of dev time? Then let me download the US version.
They could just do what they've done in the past and just release in Japan and make all of the west wait. But in this scenario, what's the point in punishing NA if it's the European version holding things up?
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
In this case it really doesn't matter. If Nintendo announces Zelda launching fully in Europe at the same time, everybody will be happy and this thread will be forgotten. If they will have some workaround then this thread has soften the blow and any workaround will be better than a delay.

So let the people discuss. If they want to vent, let them vent. It's up to mods to decide when something is blown out of proportions.

I didnt say that no one should or can discuss rumors or this - event is just so close that its not worth getting worked up about something that may or may not be true.

We didnt know if Zelda would make it at launch before this EG article and we dont know it after the article. So nothing really changed, only that EG cant confirm something that Nintendo will announce to the whole world next week.
 

Ridley327

Member
Wait I thought zelda was may? Did it get moved up for launch?

All of the recent word has pointed to the game launching with the Switch in at least the US.

If there are localization issues, I can't imagine that NoE wants to be left out of the launch hype and would be forced to release the English version while they hammer away on FIGS in the post-release period. I seem to recall that they had some localization shakeups over the past year, which will need to be addressed before long to prevent a situation like this from happening again.
 

KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
Is there any reason why NoJ would do that?
I mean, it's beneficial for them that all territories have a good launch, right? NoJ, NoA, NoE is still just basically Nintendo, right?

When was last time when NCL cared about the other territories? They still launch a lot of games first in Japan.
 

Camaway2

Member
Assuming development on Zelda was done 24 months ago is an insult to the dev team who worked over their holidays to finish the game - Aonuma already confirmed this:

Aonuma says whatever corporate needs him to say.

The game was pencilled for Christmas 2015, which means, assuming at least a 6 months final beta testing, that the assets were nailed down way before, probably Q1 2015.

What happened afterwards can be reduced to the following options:

1) Nintendo board decided back then that development of the game had costed too much to waste it on the sinking ship that already was the WiiU.

2) Performance was abysmal and it needed retooling.

I see (1) much more likely than (2) personally.

Imagining that the language assets needed to be substantially rewritten would imply that Nintendo had gone Philips CD-i and suddenly forgotten how to write a Zelda storyline, which I find not believable.

A game of this size is not improvised, whatever retooling they did since mid 2015 has to do with a strategic corporate decision and the refactoring of the code to work on the Switch, not on the language assets.
 
I'm not trying to shit in peoples' cereal, but to everyone saying that it'll launch simultaneously in all three regions... the launch lineup is going to be announced in a week. If it was going to make EU launch, Nintendo (and thus Eurogamer through sources) would know.

And to people blaming Nintendo as a whole, this is an NOE decision. It's like all those threads about NOA being the worst arm of Nintendo.
 
I remember when Animal Crossing was released for the Gamecube, I imported the Australian version as it came out way before the European version (I guess because of translation delays). So if Zelda BOTW is delayed and the Switch is region locked, Australia might save us from inevitable months of doom.
 
I remember when Animal Crossing was released for the Gamecube, I imported the Australian version as it came out way before the European version (I guess because of translation delays). So if Zelda BOTW is delayed and the Switch is region locked, Australia might save us from inevitable months of doom.

This is a good point - Australia has been getting the Yokai Watch games at the same time as America, unlike Europe.
 

Reedirect

Member
If this is true, and that's not set at this point, it would be so damn embarrassing it would me turn me off the Switch from the very first moment. I really hope this turns out to be just a lack of clear information at this point rather than hinting at a delay.
 
I'm not authorized to read that tweet apparently (why?). What does it say?

Two tweets that are the most important:

"That Eurogamer write up goes a long way to explaining why I heard such conflicting things regarding the launch for the game."
"Basically, Eurogamer are saying "yep, it's entirely possible Nintendo EU expected a summer release but NOA have it locked for launch"."

If the last one is true then wow, that is some bad communication between regions.
 

Cepheus

Member
Nintendo's going back to their roots. PAL versions of games shipping ages after their NA/JP counterparts. I'm not even into Zelda that much but I would be very disappointed if Europe got shafted.
 
this is just a tactic to make the underwhelming presentation look better to us.
we're now all expecting the game to miss launch and then we'll be happy if we get it.

at least i hope so.

but if our consolation prize is mario, i don't want to win anyway.
 
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