I mean, you don't spend almost a year and a half cancelling a game...
Scalebound cancelled [Platinum Games and Kamiya have commented]
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facetheslayer92
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Pretty sure QB was at Gamescom.
CrimsonEclipse
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I'm worried about X-Box, I feel like if Scorpio won't change things significantly for them than that's it, they are out.
The AAA industry would be in big trouble if such thing happens, Sony alone can't hold AAA gaming
It's going to be their own fault if Scorpio doesn't do well. I don't know what reasons they had for cancelling the game after all this time besides what's already been posted about deadlines etc. However, if they can't muster up some good software to show how good Scorpio can be then that's gonna be it, they need the software to entice people to upgrade/get scorpio.
This year's E3 all eyes are gonna be on MS and what they have to show alongside with Scorpio. I hope they are just not planning on 3rd party scorpio games such as madden, fifa, and w/e else to pull the weight with scropio enhanced features. Or some quick sizzle reels with awful music in the background.
Also, it's going to be hard to get people excited about what they may have down the pipeline cause some might just say, yeah looks good but it's gonna get cancelled anyway. In any event, they are making it easy for Sony to run away with all the glory, xbox only gamers just lost another bullet in the chamber and unfortunately platinum is going to be losing developers.
This isnt how production works. Imagine if 3/4 of those years you are meeting your publishers milestones and goals and then on the last year they just dump on you a huge pile of shit that you'll never be able to resolve? The product specifications changed, your personnel isn't ready for the task and your options are to either quit or try to bust your ass to actually finish it?
This isn't even a console A and console B issue. Publishers like EA and Bethesda have done it before.
CommandThrower
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Now that Scalebound is cancelled, I don't know if I have any confidence in a lot of their exclusive games getting released. My Xbox One is pretty much a Killer Instinct Box right now.
Hero of Time
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Whoa, didn't see that coming, this is unfortunate. While I wasn't crazy about the last footage they showed, I love most of Platinum Games work, so I was still kind of looking forward to it.
Hopefully Platinum will be able to recover from this and no one loses their jobs.
Hopefully Platinum will be able to recover from this and no one loses their jobs.
bananafactory
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Because if they're on PC they aren't exclusive to that console and that list is a list of exclusives
giancarlo123x
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eso76
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Can't help but think crackdown was hidden away in hopes people forget what was demoed in 2015. Because sure as hell none of that is going to be in the game, if it even comes out that is.
Microsoft hasn't even said anything in regards to the unlimited power of the cloud in a long while, now it's all about the 6TF power of the Scorpio.
I wish. The original Xbox was a pretty good alternative to the ps2 and had plenty interesting exclusives plus a very apparent technical advantage.
Doug Heffernan
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I know right? Those two Scalebound E3 demos were universally panned for being dull and boring. Same goes for Fable Legends... dull uninteresting gameplay.
But I'm not letting Microsoft off the hook for this, they really need to do a better job of picking the projects they invest in and not reveal things too early.
Beerman462
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Lists are stupid in the first place, but considering MS has basically said they want to merge their Xbox and Windows Store and they aren't holding games back from the PC, this modifier serves no purpose what so ever, except to paint the MS line up in a worst light. I'm sure they didn't need help with that.
FalsettoVibe
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I'm worried about X-Box, I feel like if Scorpio won't change things significantly for them than that's it, they are out.
The AAA industry would be in big trouble if such thing happens, Sony alone can't hold AAA gaming
Years ago people were saying PS4/Sony was gonna die. Let's not make the same mistake with Microsoft's gaming division.
Yeah, Sony was great during the PS2 era. Now look at them during the first 4 years of the PS3 era, and imagine of there was no competition.
Sony being so dominate in the PS2 era is why they were so awful as a platform holder in the first 4 years of the PS3's lifecycle.
The point that many people tried to tell these months is that there is no point to buying Xbox hardware anymore. Not having exclusives [or heck, at least some attractive new IP exclusive] can hurt Scorpio a lot.
Not on E3 tho, that was a Gamescom game
And that game was first revealed in 2012 as a PS3-Move game...
Oh okay, that would explain why i can't find it in any summary.
Same thing, it was shown at Gamescom, not E3.
The Antitype
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Have I fallen through some kind of wormhole leading me to an alternate dimension where NeoGAF did NOT crucify Dennis Dyack for his 'one console future' screed?
demogorgon
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i know i am in the minority, but to be fair this entire forum and all forums are the vocal minority. the 20 million people buying CoD every year could care less about the couple of hundred people on forums who hate it for example. I do like to see new games as well but i also want my halo, gears, etc as well. I can see people hating on MS for not doing more big SP games, but nobody hates sony for not doing more MP games. I play primarily MP games but i like a good SP game as well occasionally. Its a good reason I have both. MS does MP much better and Sony does SP much better. I don't see an issue with pushing your big franchises. any company would do the same. just like activation does with CoD, EA with BF, Sony with UC etc those big franchises help fund newer IPs
I disagree but i respect your opinion. I'm primarily a MP player but this was one SP game i played start to finish and loved every minute of it. only less then a handful of titles have gotten that from me this gen. Matter of fact there isn't another SP game i spent that many hours in at all this gen. the gameplay and combat system was new and amazing. very fast paced with an emphasis on movement over cover. the comedy in it was great as well.
i understand that as well. the vocal minority yells at MS to make new IPs and when they do nobody buys them. Why fund products that don't make money? The truth is exclusives have lost all their momentum. they don't matter nearly as much as people think. the reality is no exclusive has sold more then 15% of a userbase. meanwhile games like Fifa, madden, CoD, BF, GTA, Minecraft sell much much more then that. People buying consoles really aren't doing it for exclsuives. us who do and us multi console owners like myself are the minority. realistically speaking these new IPs won't push any consoles, they only push themselves
This has just made me realize I've been blocked by Arthur Gies. I've criticized Polygon on Twitter in the past (and even then just once, I checked) but I've never even interacted with the man, what.
I've just been praising Polygon's wonderful Final Fantasy 7 article too.
Anyway, I really hope that stuff isn't true. Sounds like it'd be like hell to work under those circumstances
Except he said there are convenient excuses for when Platinum delivers a bad game, which there are (valid reasons, that is). He's still wrong. And maybe Scalebound looked last E3, but people were skeptical about Vanquish, MGR and W101 prior to release, and plenty other games, most notably FF15, demoed poorly at E3 as well.
facetheslayer92
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That's exactly what it is.
Looks like he'll have more time to be busier on Twitter.
exmachina64
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That hasn't been true of Platinum in a long time.
You also don't know how many games they've worked on that have been cancelled, so you can't say this is the first game where this has happened.
Do you even have to ask?
Leyasu
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Just going to the first page and it seems that "people in the know" are speculating that the cancellation happened last year. Yet the "man on the ground with the devs" didn't.
Seems to me that he can defend platinum without question, yet Gies in the same twitter is roundly accused of all sorts of skullduggery.
To an impartial observer, there seems to be plenty of bias everywhere....
I hope they pick up Fable too and finish that Fable that got canned !
Sea of Thieves, State of Decay 2, Cuphead, Forza 7.
eh, damn:
this is fucked up if true
That's fucking atrocious.
eh, damn:
this is fucked up if true
If Platinum was missing milestones way back then yes it would have been within their rights to withhold pay.
bananafactory
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eh, damn:
this is fucked up if true
What the fuck
https://twitter.com/Adsinjapan/status/818560975569711104
Salty Rice
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Just switch wannabe Dante with actual Dante and call it DMC 5.
AuthenticM
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eh, damn:
this is fucked up if true
Did they try to pull some Bethesda crookery?
Honest question: What does Microsoft have to gain from owning an IP they just cancelled?
Not trying to be facetious.
exmachina64
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We don't know what the state of the game was internally at Platinum.
eh, damn:
this is fucked up if true
It's common, particularly when a developer is missing milestones.
plasmawave
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Glad Kojima went with Sony and not MS.
Emo Dante or anime Dante?
TheAggroCraig
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Man, I'm actually super bummed about this one... but hopefully this lets Kamiya move onto another good project.
shanafan
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How do you know they were meeting their milestones and reaching completion? Maybe it has been in developmental hell for awhile but it wasn't made public until now.
Ultimadrago
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Honestly, what was shown of this game wasn't very good at all, so I won't mourn it if cancelled.
I hope Platinum Games can brush it off as a studio though.
I hope Platinum Games can brush it off as a studio though.
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