Alligatorjandro
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I still believe in Xbox
Scalebound cancelled [Platinum Games and Kamiya have commented]
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Crimson_Gold
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If you read his post, it was just about games shown off at E3 2014, not necessarily announced. SMH.
He's protecting you from yourself. Or something like that
What the hell are you talking about? Development Cycles have been getting longer and longer across the board. FFXV (after the restart), MGSV are both fairly comparable to open world production times. TLG is a special case where the game was put on ice for years.
The only reason the Asscreeds and CODs of the world are developed in 3 year cycles is because they throw bodies at the problem.
Electret
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Indeed. Too much smoke.
From a business perspective, it makes sense.
From a consumer perspective, fuck that. I'll take my business elsewhere.
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For fuck sake!
Zomba13
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Basically my feelings. I picked one up when the Sunset Overdrive bundle came out because that was one of the games on my want list and then since then, outside of Halo, nothing from my original want list has made it out. I got lucky with Rock Band 4 and Rare Replay being reasons to keep the thing and thankfully my cousin plays a lot of stuff on his Xbone so I can borrow games I normally wouldn't buy from him when he's done (like Forza Horizon 3 right now). And even then, most of the exclusives are coming to PC anyway. I was super looking forward to Scalebound, even if it didn't have the best showings it had potential (actiony combat + dragons? Yes please) but then it was part of the "everything will be on PC too!!!" initiative so even at that point my Xbone owning reasons were super slim.
EDIT: Oh yeah, also D4 was on my list. I enjoyed that but was super disappointed it didn't get any more episodes and was basically not even half of a story. Plus it eventually came to PC.
Suzushiiro
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There's also the fact that MS has been fucking up exclusives all over the place for years now. It's a bit of a stretch to believe that no, this time MS was doing everything right and it was all Platinum's fault!
I'm not a console warrior, I just call it like I see it. MS lost all their innovation years ago, and every time that it seems the lineup is diversifying, something like this happens. It happens at all game companies, but MS corporate really doesn't understand gaming, and is putting unrealistic expectations on the division. That much I DO know from friend that work at MS. The rest is extrapolation ...
Basically every unique project has been canned in the past five years or so... do you remember Lionhead studios? And it happens everywhere, but at least Sony has some diversity in their lineup, even with all the games that never see the light of day.
Only really innovative MS game I can remember in recent history is Ori, and it was utterly fantastic!
I am a MS shareholder, and I have numerous friends in the networking side of the corporation. They all love working for MS, but expectations are high. Failure is simply not tolerated.
Which is why I personally believe my friends that talk about the gaming division. It has been a "failure" to MS corporate for years. I thought Spencer could change that, but all he does is cancel projects from what we have seen so far... it may not even be him.
Basically every unique project has been canned in the past five years or so... do you remember Lionhead studios? And it happens everywhere, but at least Sony has some diversity in their lineup, even with all the games that never see the light of day.
Only really innovative MS game I can remember in recent history is Ori, and it was utterly fantastic!
I am a MS shareholder, and I have numerous friends in the networking side of the corporation. They all love working for MS, but expectations are high. Failure is simply not tolerated.
Which is why I personally believe my friends that talk about the gaming division. It has been a "failure" to MS corporate for years. I thought Spencer could change that, but all he does is cancel projects from what we have seen so far... it may not even be him.
Relaxed Muscle
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Is nice that you your own opinion.
But for a lot of people PG is a great studio that developed some of the finest action games in the past years. Games that are harder and harder to find in the current gaming scenario.
So yeah, something of value would be lost for a few quite number of players.
Unknown?
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Guess they can't really expect much support from the Japanese by burning so many bridges.
Garrett Hawke
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why do so many xboxers have a weird cult symbol in their twitter names
oRuin
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All about money and forecasts sadly.
They probably didn't like what they saw considering the money being injected into the project. And how would it sell? Guess we will never know.
Wow, l hope Microsoft are gearing up for a massive E3 as l can't see many exclusives on the horizon:
Crackdown 3
Halo Wars 2
Sea Of Thieves
State Of Decay 2
Anything else? Possibly Forza and some flavour of Minecraft?
I think l might be clinging to the good old OG Xbox/early 360 days, when there were plenty of unique experiences.
Crackdown 3
Halo Wars 2
Sea Of Thieves
State Of Decay 2
Anything else? Possibly Forza and some flavour of Minecraft?
I think l might be clinging to the good old OG Xbox/early 360 days, when there were plenty of unique experiences.
Wasn't this game supposedly only 10% complete when it got announced? oh boy
More money for other games who do look promising?
samuraidino
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At this point MS have a pretty poor track record in terms of project management with studios other than Halo/Gears farms so I wouldn't blame people for thinking they set extreme milestones and withheld pay to break out of contract or try to get a game made on the cheap, because it's exactly what they did with Phantom dust. Obviously it's hard to tell without hard facts but we rarely get those since game development is bizarrely secretive.
hydrophilic attack
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much bigger potential for microtransactions in sea of thieves
brandonh83
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I like Phil but this seems weird of him to say. A game being cancelled is good for Xbox gamers? Maybe it wouldn't have turned out well, who's to say, but it being released wouldn't be bad for Xbox gamers. And in terms of 2017 exclusives, yeah, it'd be nice to see them.
AndrewDean84xX
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Meh, looked meh. Sucks if true about MS holding funds. I hate corporate bullshit like that. They all do it. Didn't Crytech recently get caught not paying their people too?
It's likely not totally up to him
You might want to find the link if you don't want to be annoyed by the baseless speculations then.
The money they'd have spent getting it up to speed going to something that isn't a developmental dumpster fire?
More investment elsewhere? Saves Xbox gamers from potentially buying a dud? Perhaps his line of thought.
It's interesting that the tone on here was that the game sucked and would sell peanuts given the platform. But now it's the best thing ever and sad that it's cancelled.
For me, all I cared about is that it was a Platinum game, and as a big fan, it was the game to encourage me to re-buy an Xbox this year. But even I will admit it didn't look like Platinum's best work, but perhaps their most ambitious.
Waldo Lydecker
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Please Hideki, pour all your heart, love and soul in anothed Okami and give MS and douchebag Gies the finger.
Poor Kamiya, he didn't look too happy either at E3: https://youtu.be/aV7ob_aJjUk
Microsoft could have been something, a contender. But the upbeat, ambitious, smart and glorious Allard days are long gone... Sad.
Poor Kamiya, he didn't look too happy either at E3: https://youtu.be/aV7ob_aJjUk
Microsoft could have been something, a contender. But the upbeat, ambitious, smart and glorious Allard days are long gone... Sad.
BigEmil
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Did Microsoft take down all Scalebound videos on their channel? That thread video links all gone
Crimson_Gold
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Well, if the game is no good... It protects consumers from buying a bad product. And weakening the brand further.
The Salt Life
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I Like that he is thinking what is best for me but at the same time, what has Phil done lately besides put a positive spin on everything. Which has worked for the most part.
He can't answer it in a tweet but I wish he can elaborate on what he means "what's best for the players"
Protecting us from a No Mans Sky type scenario? Yes I feel like I wasted my $60 dollars but still some people enjoyed it.
Ricky Ricardo
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And I'm saying that's apples to oranges. How can you not see that? You're comparing a stable of games only announced at E3 2014 to a stable of games announced over a period of time leading up to and including E3 2014. That's improperly handled data sorting sir.
Either you're playing some sort of "Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics" level game here to bolster a particular narrative or you just can't see what I'm trying to say here.
hydrophilic attack
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Sure.
But then they should own that and don't give us bullshit that this would be what is best for gamers. Did they really think anyone would believe that crap?
Hello? This is Hailun!
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Bethesda did the same to Human head.
Maybe the game was tested and was a piece of crap? Crap hurts a games ecosystem and by extension the people who use it.
Not saying this is true but it could be a reason why it's good for gamers
kruis
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It could well be that PG accepted Microsoft's crappy offer just so they could keep their development team working. Big publishers willing to finance third party games are becoming rare.
shark sandwich
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Hate to say it, but Xbox seems like the kind of thing that Microsoft would can in a heartbeat without even flinching. I think the only reason it hasn't been cancelled already is because it's such a high-profile product and would reflect poorly on the company.
Man, as an XBO owner, I'm feeling pretty gutted after reading your posts; not that I regret buying the console (Ori and Sunset Overdrive are top 10 games this gen), but it doesn't seem like there's much on the horizon in terms of freshness or variety, compared to Sony's first party lineup. Thanks for sharing this information.
Salty Rice
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Same old shit. Would have laughed my ass off if he would have said "Greatest Lineup in History!" again.
But hey guys it was better for us that it was canceled for some reason.
How is less games good for anyone? This makes no sense whatsoever.
I remember buying my Xbox One based off of D4 (loved it) Sunset Overdrive (didn't love it) and the eventual release of Scalebound. I've since given it to my brother to take with him to college but having a pc I was optimistic with their direction that I'd still have Scalebound on pc and whatever interested me in the future. This news makes me sad, and I hope Kamiya and the developers working on Scalebound come back eventually with something else, working with someone else.
Krusenstern
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That seems to be the case.
Sanctuary
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You can't just keep throwing money at something and hope that it improves. The latest demo for the game was rather underwhelming, and Microsoft had much more access to what had been completed than the rest of us. Maybe it seemed like a lost cause to them, and instead of giving Platinum even more time and money (that they felt would have been a waste), they cut their losses and ran.
Chobel
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I get what he's saying, but damn! That's not good PR talk at all lol.
Man Zeta Oni was so hyped for this game. I wonder if he read the news(he hasn't posted here for 2 days)
CrimsonEclipse
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Yikes, well maybe if the suits let the game devision do what they know this may not be happening? Looks like like I'm about to start investing a lot more in the Sony ecosystem if true. They may as well sell off what they can.
Again, if true only reason why Scropio is coming is because they probably already dunked so much cash into it they just wanna see how well it does before some big calls start beingg made.
Wouldn't surprise me if scalebound cancellation came from outside the Xbox division. Dunno how they expect to see better success if they are not Willing to take risk anymore.
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