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Internal strategies change. They may not be interested in putting anymore money into it that they could spend on games that could potentially bring in more revenue.
Scalebound cancelled [Platinum Games and Kamiya have commented]
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Internal strategies change. They may not be interested in putting anymore money into it that they could spend on games that could potentially bring in more revenue.
dragonelite
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Meet your deadlines and you're the managers best friend don't meet your targets and the manager will be less friendly and will try to micromanage everything. And it will become the managers fault the project fails. Its the same dam thing in Enterprise software development.
3rdamention
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Have you read the article about what happened with Phantom Dust on Kotaku?
MS got exposed there from all angles in the production of that particular game. This may be different, but it could also be similar....The Phantom Dust situation was indeed scummy.
OrbitalBeard
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WHY MICROSOFT WHY
badcrumble
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The closest parallel I can think of is Konami yanking the P.T. Demo and videos of it, I guess.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Not the first time this has happened to a Japanese exclusive on xbox.
remember
And this is what literally caused Xbox users in Japan to hate MS for a pretty long time. Also the rift with MS and L5. You should have seen how many Xboxes showed up in used stores after the announcement. Was so bad that places were putting signs out that they were not buying any more Xboxes... I still remember that pretty clearly.
I've covered Forzawars, you know
I think he probably should have taken more accountability than he actually did, with how Sony was showing off that game on their shows
I predict Crackdown will be online only, considering we haven't seen any single player content.
Some people seem to think Scorpio is a whole new system, or that it will at least have exclusives.
I don't know why, maybe shitty messaging from MS again.
What's your definition of a good game?
See, this is the problem. What Kamiya perceived as a good game doesn't necessarily aligned with MS's definition.
There are people that think the Scorpio will be a big enough jump to start a brand new generation and have exclusive (normal, non-VR) games not on XB1.
Relaxed Muscle
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Not the first time this has happened to a Japanese exclusive on xbox.
remember
I bought an original Xbox for this game and was so burned when it got cancelled.
Don't worry we'll see it again once Konami announces Pachinko.T.
That's where the contract thing comes into play. Maybe MS didn't like it for subjective reasons rather than technical ones, so they had to create a situation where they could cancel it without breaking their contract.
Ganondorfo
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Kamiya should have known that he never should have made a game for a system most xbox one exclusive gamers dont care for. His games are most catered to the PS4 and Switch gamers. Devil May Cry, Okami, Wonderful 101, Resident Evil 2. These games dont sound interesting to Xbox one exclusive owners.
He should have made that game multi, like the developers are doing with Ni Oh. Maybe if MS never funded that game he could have had support from Sony.
He should have made that game multi, like the developers are doing with Ni Oh. Maybe if MS never funded that game he could have had support from Sony.
Oh... I'm not sure if I wanted to hear all this, it just hurts now. But thanks for sharing this info.
MatrixMan.EXE
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The Wonderful 101 metacritic isn't even reflective of the game's quality either imo. As far as I'm concerned it's 9/10 game and one of the my all-time favourites.
Just so you guys know I'm not making this shit up (and I would not blame you because, again, THEY NEVER FUCKING SHOWED IT) this is Vice talking about Dragon Link:
Shhh...milestones missed etc etc.
flaxknuckles
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I heard about about that stuff and that's what put it on the map for me when the showings at e3 and gamescom left me cold. I don't understand why this footage wasn't shown, it probably would have gotten a great amount of hype.
Triggerhappytel
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I mean, it's possible but who knows. The character action genre isn't really a big deal any more so who knows what Sony would want out of them.
Sony chose to elevate a small indie dev into that position and the leave them to fend for themselves for handling their PR. If Hello was screwing things up so badly, Sony should have put them on a shorter leash. Going out there and saying "yeah, they really fucked up!" when you were effectively their patron is dodging a lot of blame that should be on you.
Blackleg-sanji1
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You killing me man
PunishedReaver
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Not the first time this has happened to a Japanese exclusive on xbox.
remember
Ugh... I remember when my bro and I were so excited for this game to come out and reading all about it in magazines. Man, we got so mad when it got canned. Sucks to everyone that were looking forward to Scalebound. Looked pretty cool too.
Sony loves doing shit like this. Hope someone supports the Scalebound team with a new project ASAP.
0%. Microsoft is probably not going to give the name + all of the assets developed back to Platinum, or to Nintendo.
Glass Rebel
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In other words, fuck Microsoft for real.
I have a feeling the lines have been drawn in the sand with the Japanese and MS - it will be awhile before you see another Japanese company work with MS. Level-5, Platinum, etc... these are highly-respected companies in Japan. It's a different culture.
BTW, Nier and Grandblue Fantasy look amazing for the PS4... Like I said before, the lone holdout at this time is Square, and I personally think they've had enough as well (That is completely my opinion). Their games have sold like complete crap on the XB1, and most of them aren't even going to see the platform to tank. PS4 and Switch will get everything Square going forward...
Like I said before, I expect most Japanese companies to take their current XB1 projects (those that actually exist) to Sony or Nintendo.
BTW, Platinum will simply move a lot of their people over to Granblue, which has a following as an established franchise already in Japan.
BTW, Nier and Grandblue Fantasy look amazing for the PS4... Like I said before, the lone holdout at this time is Square, and I personally think they've had enough as well (That is completely my opinion). Their games have sold like complete crap on the XB1, and most of them aren't even going to see the platform to tank. PS4 and Switch will get everything Square going forward...
Like I said before, I expect most Japanese companies to take their current XB1 projects (those that actually exist) to Sony or Nintendo.
BTW, Platinum will simply move a lot of their people over to Granblue, which has a following as an established franchise already in Japan.
Once again, zero. IP/assets owned by MS.
This question is gonna come up often, isn't it? Should be in the OP, ha.
While not about GoW, Halo 3 sold roughly 4 mil first week, with around 15-20 mil consoles sold. Halo 5 sold 1.5 mil (ish) first week with around the same number of consoles sold.
Numbers are deliberately vague but fact of the matter is Halo 3 and Halo 5 had very similar launch bases in terms of units in homes but Halo 3 sold vastly more.
Relaxed Muscle
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Did MS wanted a good game, or a game they thought it would sell more? Or maybe they wanted a game that would fit on their new software portfolio of games as services.
exmachina64
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Damn it's a bummer this got cancelled.
I can only hope that some form of this idea lives on in another game.
The definition should be whatever the risk assessment and consultation company and Microsoft labeled the game as being. Chances are this whole situation is a culmination of a lot of things and not just one thing. Could be contracts, could be timelines not being kept to and it could be that seeing the game through development with full marketing and post launch oversight was much more of a risk and detrimental to microsofts bottom line than they were comfortable risking. It was probably vastly cheaper to cut it off at the legs now and write it off as a loss they could recoup from than to put out a stinker of a game with no chance of recouping anything near development costs let alone any post production expenses.
Game industry is wicked.
Games die everyday B.
MaceTheDon
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Too bad, would've liked to have seen how a western focused MH type game could've been like.
What the heck? Scalebound's protagonist was suppose to be a girl before Microsoft made Platinum change her to an ugly hipster whiteboy? Damn never knew that
Has Microsoft ever sold one of their IPs off? Probably not right?
Sure would be a nice goodwill move if they gave it all back to Platinum.
RiccochetJ
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Funded development tends to have a lower risk because it's not your money. I'd have to look to find them, but I definitely know there's some articles or podcasts where a studio owner/head peels back the curtain enough to explain why sometimes they take these kinds of contracted jobs to keep the lights on while they try and get their own internal IP off the ground.
There is the nasty case of Alien: Colonial Marines where GearBox was accused of funneling money paid to them by Sega for that game and was instead diverted to Borderlands 2.
Limited release?
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