RiccochetJ
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I think we would have seen another delay announced if MS didn't cancel it.
I think they saw an awesome vertical slice like we saw with Prey 2.
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I think we would have seen another delay announced if MS didn't cancel it.
Remember Fable legends? That game was done and was close to launch yet.....Ms shut the game down
Labolas
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Wut? We have sites corroborating what Rob said.
il Diavolo
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this hurts even more now
This was a goodwill project. It obviously didn't go the way anyone wanted it. No one wants to cancel these massive deals unless shit has gone sideways and after 2+ years and very poor public showings and what must be piss poor milestone checks, Microsoft ultimately decided they had made the wrong choice. It's a business and no one wants to keep dumping funds into an endeavor you know you'll never make back.
Also, we have no idea what the state of the game is. We don't know if it was fun to play or completely broken. We can speculate all we want but all we know is something wasn't where it needed to be between the 2014 announcement and now so they had to call it. It is what it is.
orthodoxy1095
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Obviously there have been some high-profile cancellation of previously touted projects, but is there actually anything concrete yet to the blame being heaped on MS? Seems like love of P* is clouding commentary on this.
Frankly just like with MGS, Konami and Kojima.
I do remember, Fable Legends was a game as a service though with a studio that they were trying to close, it's a little different than something they're outsourcing and have no associated costs with besides marketing and shipping the game, Fable Legends if they launch they're committing to a lot more down the line.
KZXcellent
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As it stands I see very little reason to get an Xbox One. Between the Phantom Dust debacles and Scalebound I find myself uninterested in Microsoft's offerings. I sincerely hope they aren't betting it all on power with the Scorpio and third-parties. Gears/Halo/Forza can't carry the system in my opinion.
Who knows, maybe they've got some really good unannounced titles and a few more timed-exclusives. Right now it doesn't look that good.
Who knows, maybe they've got some really good unannounced titles and a few more timed-exclusives. Right now it doesn't look that good.
Coffee Dog
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because an action game looking poor mid development isn't that crazy and happens pretty frequently
what is crazy is a AAA exclusive getting cancelled after years of dev
Sr. Wiggles
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Well, to be fair plenty of games with potential have failed. That alone doesn't mean anything. I'm interested in hearing more details about why this project fell apart.
I had the game preordered but can't say anything i've seen so far has looked amazing. I was just HOPING the game would deliver.
Not even Halo, Gears or Forza are home runs at this point, their last instalments sold worse than previous games in their respective series, the only one who keep selling about the same is Forza but still. This mentality is why MS is likely to get out of the console business, they want home runs straight away and are not willing to commit to build franchises from the ground up, that's why they bought Gears from Epic instead of leaving Black Tusk to do their own thing.
CassidyIzABeast
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Hell the release window was "2017" way back in January of 2016, the only other delay option was to go the "its finished when its finished" route.
Like your post?
You are the one defending a dumb joke.
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So pizzacat is, paraphrasing him, dumb enough to not inform himself on the subject at hand, while expecting people to know where he (pizzacat) lives.
Which doesn't make his shitpost any better. We are done.
Well we have journalists saying that MS was definitely on some sketchy shit. That's where a lot of this is coming from.
Watch yo mouth!
The thing is, why risk investing in an Xbox when the future of any exclusive they announce is up in the air and has the potential to be shut down at any moment? It doesn't inspire confidence in the buyer.
Constantly announcing the cancellation of games in development just causes an air of uncertainty for all potential consumers.
Constantly announcing the cancellation of games in development just causes an air of uncertainty for all potential consumers.
The exact same thing could be said in the opposite direction. Just because some press liked a behind-closed-doors demo doesn't mean the game was awesome. We'll just never know.
Do you have a PC with Windows 10? Just buy things there if you don't want to buy an Xbox.
They didn't announce it, people leaked it.
It apparently was canceled early in December.
The Xbox division is under a lot of scrutiny at Microsoft. Not a lot of margin for error, I'd imagine.
Weltall Zero
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Hush, don't ruin his delusion of being the one dude that's on top of everything. He has a Solid Snake username and avatar and everything!
Haha, that's ridiculous. I met him at E3 this year and he was pretty nice. I told him I really like the games he's worked on and was looking forward to Scalebound. He looked kind of annoyed at me but I didn't think much of it. Now I can see how big of a dick he can be when he's not at an industry event, yeesh.
It's interesting to me to see how many people are disapointed, the last time they showed the game I remember everyone trashing it. Too bad it got cancelled though. I think no one should point fingers till we know the whole story though.
TBH I wish Crimson Dragon never got released, so disapointing.
TBH I wish Crimson Dragon never got released, so disapointing.
Riposte
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My initial impression, which was positive, but measured, was that it would basically be Kamiya doing Dragon's Dogma (which I think is a decent, not great, game) except you also fight along with a monster instead of pawns (also co-op). Reading this Dragon Link shit just tells it was going to be better than that. Please uncancel it thank you.
They were going to have to address it some day.
Bubba_Sparks
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consoles ain't shit anymore!
What's there not to get? Sony still plans on publishing Japanese games years from now, and they want a healthy working relationship with their Japanese partners and studios, as well as fans of those talent. MS probably does not even have plans for publishing any Japanese games moving forward, probably not many games period, and if corporate rumors are to be believed, they might not even see much of a worthwhile future in the core gaming business long term.
Coffee Dog
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lmao, please don't fall for that, it's an old copypasta. it originally had ryan gosling.
KZXcellent
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Kamiya ate my child last week.
SlimySnake
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link please. this thread is getting like 20 posts a minute and its impossible to keep up. op is doing a terrible job as well.
i dont know why they would show not one but two gameplay demos and not show the coolest thing about the game. i also didnt read hear any particularly glowing impressions back at gamescom about closed door demos and they usually leak. and now we have some guy saying omg this thing has dragon combos and everyone thinks omg best game ever when the reality is that those combos didnt look too neat.
see the impressions of the suicide squad's original cut where some guy posted glowing impressions of harley and joker's deleted scenes. we all thought that would have saved the movie but they added those back in and they were actually kinda terrible.
one last analogy, no one gets divorced if they have a happy marriage. no game gets cancelled if it looked amazing.
plasmawave
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Platinum to team up with From to develop the spiritual successor to Scalebound. Please be excited for Soulsbound.
Wait. Where are you hearing any of this?
orthodoxy1095
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Yeah that's why I was asking for anything concrete that I might have missed in the past few hours. I'd need to know more about these contracts or how they handled it before I'm willing to throw them under the bus. Even if they did something shady, I don't buy that P* is blameless in project management here.
giancarlo123x
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Speculation
Emperor_EL
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Hopefully Nier: Automata does well & these ideas can be put into Drakengard 4 or if these Cygames partnerships work out then maybe they can be put into a Rage of the Bahamut game.
Stop creating this narrative that the game looked like a complete disaster. Not everyone thought it looked "fucked" or shitty. It had framerate problems and the huge boss fight wasn't the best looking thing ever, but framerate issues are something that often get (mostly) ironed out late in development and boring big bosses would have only been one portion of the game (and not necessarily all of them would have been boring just because one might've been based on a quick live demo of an unfinished game still presumably a year or so away from release by a possibly inexperienced/shitty player who didn't know how to best utilize the skills/weapons available).
Even the big boss didn't look so horrible that it would completely ruin the game, maybe it could've even been fun with a fully unlocked combat system and after some time mastering the combat system, being played by a person who knows what they are doing. It was a bit rough but something that looked like it could be fun when finished if they could get rid of the framerate problems.
To be fair though: Scalebound was shown off like 3-4 times since it's initial reveal and Gears of War 4 was out when I bought it.
It's super rare a game gets cancelled these days, and this wasn't a tech demo thing like that Star Wars game.
This sucks.
I hope Sea of Thieves turns into something and doesn't suck. This console is starved for exclusives and none of the ones shown for next year make me give even half a crap.(Sea of Thieves included, but I'm hopeful...)
Well if you're only concerned with Halo,Gears,And Forza it's cool I guess. Because you are guaranteed to get those games. At this point anything else is up in the Air.
Even when MS try new Ip they flop, Question is how long will they continue to try?
I can't see a reason why the game would be cancelled if it looked good and was going well. Clearly they didnt meet expectations. As for why or who is to blame, that's what I'm curious about.
Masked Man
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It's a meme.
I've actually had the pleasure of meeting with Kamiyaat Platinum Games, no lessand he was a pleasant, personable guy, if a bit under the weather at the time. I have a lot of respect and admiration for him, and I feel terrible about the cancellation. :/
They should assimilate into Capcom. Most of the big names were from there anyway. Inject modern development blood into that old big blue.
When the new MS CEO took over there were rumblings that the Xbox division was under evaluation. They have since obviously come out to support the division and say all is well, but let's be honest, they have Minecraft, they want to expand more and more into a services driven company, and that doesn't really gel with the traditional business of just making hardware and publishing exclusives.
Labolas
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True, I just think people talking shit about a game that was clearly still in it's early development cycle.
So nothing. Lots of reactionary posts in here.
I mean. I guess... So, you're just speculating? Nothing at all concrete?
Well, no one official is going to say anything probably. Just hope that Kotaku dude cooks something up, or that Michael McWheator polygon guy
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