It depends on how much stature he would have within Nintendo. For example Sakurai gets to do whatever the fuck he wants.
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It depends on how much stature he would have within Nintendo. For example Sakurai gets to do whatever the fuck he wants.
Regret Upon Approval
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At this point I'm seriously wondering whether the Scorp will be worth bothering with for anything other than uprezzed Halo/Cod/Forza
They keep failing to deliver any sort of substantive/varied games lineup and drop projects all over the place.
How do I know they won't just pull the plug on it all not that long after release. They've eroded my trust.
They keep failing to deliver any sort of substantive/varied games lineup and drop projects all over the place.
How do I know they won't just pull the plug on it all not that long after release. They've eroded my trust.
Man.
I just hope MS had the decency to let them keep a lot of the code, but I bet it was licensed to the nines.
Yo guys what if:
Kamiya wouldn't have to be either. He might even find that preferable. The French rumor merely says he might want to get "closer" to Capcom or Nintendo.
Gamer @ Heart
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Yo guys what if:
I want a kamiya game more than every 5 years please.
Also, kamiya is a director. Any game he would work on under kojima would be a demotion.
Mr. Smiley
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Wow. I do hope they are able to collaborate more with Square afterwards.Another thing from another journalist (Nathan Brown, deputy director of Edge), unused Inaba quote from a Nier interview:
He says he's not implying it's MS, but that Platinum certainly prefers certain ways of being handled.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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About working with publishers, has Platinum shared any negatives with their time doing their Nintendo games???
Seemed to be fairly smooth sailing from what I have read.
Seemed to be fairly smooth sailing from what I have read.
Sir Ilpalazzo
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True, but Sakurai has (had? remains to be seen) that status because he was close personal friends with Iwata, who also considered him a visionary and believed he deserved absolute freedom and blank checks from Nintendo. Going from the Iwata Asks interviews featuring Kamiya, it's likely that there are people at Nintendo who at least respect him, but no one who has a working relationship with him the way his fellow Capcom alumni do.
Glass Rebel
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Kamiya going independent as a freelancer à la Sakurai would probably be preferable to outright joining Capcom, Nintendo or anyone.
Kingdom Hearts x Platinum
GrayChild
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At least Kamiya seemed happy about their collaboration. However, since both Bayonetta 2 and W101 bombed on the Wii U, I fear Nintendo may not fund another Platinum exclusive for their platform.
Mr. Smiley
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So like Platinum, except he directs all the games?
I thinking more original creative deals like Bayonetta or W101.
Toadthemushroom
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I'm sure the story was very different between Square Enix and Tri-Ace...just look at how miserable Star Ocean 5 turned out.
also, kamiya's way more into crazy as it pertains to gameplay where kojima's more into crazy as it pertains to the story he's telling. the two would probably clash just from the basic level of what they want out of games.
SargerusBR
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GrayChild
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That doesn't mean that Platinum may do another Nintendo exclusive with Ninty acting as a publisher.
Considering how happy Inaba was about their relationship with Square, I can see them doing another one, especially if Nier: Automata does well. Not to mention that minimizes the possibility of Platinum's next game being locked on a single platform.
So, Square, please make this happen.
User123456
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Metal Gear Rising was a spectacular blend of both, even if it wasn't directed by either.
TheGreatLugia
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If Kamiya were to leave Platinum, would he actually have a team to lead on projects? Off the top of my head, I'm not sure why he would leave Platinum for a studio that doesn't have a working team in place for him.
Well, its its their money, IP and technology.
Why wouldnt they have an absolute say over the game development?
What many pubs do tho, is to trust in a developer to deliver a good game within their specifications, without worrying too much about details
Glass Rebel
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You know who else is a freelancer?
Yasumi Matsuno
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Nah, not quite. Sora was a company made up of a handful of people (or just two? I'm not sure) that basically contracted Sakurai out as a director for games made by external companies. In the case of Kid Icarus, Nintendo created a separate company that was dissolved after development.
Sir Ilpalazzo
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Not necessarily, since leaving Platinum means he loses access to Platinum's staff - and even as someone who follows Kamiya and his games closely, I'm not absolutely confident in his ability to continue putting out games of the quality he has without the staff familiar with what makes his games tick.
Sora was literally just Sakurai (and maybe his wife, I forget).
Mr. Smiley
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Ahh, I'm not gonna like what I'm about to research then?
I agree they wouldn't work well together, but Kojima has made some pretty weird gameplay choices in pretty much all of his games.
I mean most recently, the Fulton mechanic alone was some weird shit.
Doesn't Kojima want KojiPro to be much bigger than just him and his team? Kamiya could be a massive move in that direction, and they are both the great kind of crazy so could work. Though it's probably too early for the studio to be capable of supporting multiple teams, so I doubt it'll happen.
It does not outright contradict the very specific point of funding a plattform exclusive, which the Great Mighty didn't ask about, but it shows they are Switch developers.
Gamer @ Heart
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There isn't a ton of info. The jist is that they told tri ace to make a AAA RPG and gave them a shoe string fucking budget.
ElBoxyBrown
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If Neogaf had huge influence Bayonetta 2 would be the highest selling Wii U game, Miyazaki would work on every game, and the Vita would get Gravity Rush 2.
Read some pages, regardless of the drama I'm disappointed. Wasn't that excited about Scalebound but I like Platinum, and MS. I would have bought this even if it ended up being mediocre. This is a weird scenario where I don't get why it was canceled but at the same time I also understand why it was. I guess that doesn't make much sense, but that's how I feel.
No, not at all. In fact, we at GAF tend to be so far outside the mainstream that our causes probably won't find the big support necessary anyway.
Ban Puncher
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bobawesome
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Yo guys what if:
Relationship with Microsoft over. Now Kojima is my best friend?
Yeah, Kojima is still gathering people for his own project, so it seems highly unlikely that he is able to staff Kamiya as well anytime soon.
While I do find discussing if Gaf can change something pointless in this case, cause obviously not, you are a bit underselling. #PS4NoDRM and all that.
AmethystEnd
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You really think the #PS4NoDRM thing is why PS4 ended up not having DRM?
Serious Sam
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Huh? PS4 has DRM.
Chuck Norris
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What's the story between Kamiya and Sony?
Have you heard of a little game called Duke Nukem Forever? How about Daikatana? Unlimited freedom doesn't necessarily get you anything good.
Making games costs money. Publishers have power because they provide the money that gets games made. Because they are the ones who stand to win or lose based on the game's performance, it'd be crazy if they didn't have some kind of way to control costs and make sure they got what they were paying for.
Developers don't always know what they're doing. Maybe they're spending time on an idea nobody will like. Maybe they want to blow a lot of money pursuing cutting edge features when it won't meaningfully benefit the quality of the game. Maybe they're straight up goofing off and not efficiently using the money they're given, or building a game the publisher doesn't want to fund.
People bring up the Phantom Dust story, and I think it's totally reasonable to call that mismanagement on Microsoft's end. But there's plenty of blame to go around. Darkside, in their inexperience, promised Microsoft they were going to create a game that they themselves knew they could not produce with the budget they were given. If you say yes to every demand you're given, only to reveal the truth after millions of dollars have already been sunk into development, what's your business partner supposed to think? How can they trust you to fulfill your promises after that?
Just because Microsoft is bad at publishing games doesn't mean that publishers have no useful function. It's entirely possible to have healthy publisher/developer relationships that benefit both parties.
oneofthose
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People wanting him to team with kojima is what i do not want. kojima can go f off with his hollywood dreams. Hopefully there's no problem internally with him and platinum.
VlaudTheImpaler
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Guys, a whole bunch of journalists from the various different gaming websites as well as devs from very popular studios frequent GAF. I've seen articles written that credit GAF on various occasions. I wouldn't say that we have no influence.
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