Apparently the high paced part was the dragonlink system that they hadn't shown off to the public yet. Seems like combos were based on juggling back and forth between Drew and the dragon.
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Apparently the high paced part was the dragonlink system that they hadn't shown off to the public yet. Seems like combos were based on juggling back and forth between Drew and the dragon.
DirgeExtinction
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Yeah, "meltdown" was a bit too strong a word to use. He was very visibly upset.
I don't think better looking multiplats will drive sales unless devs really invest into making Scorpio games look their best. I would imagine devs prioritize were the players are, MS will likely have to provide devs incentive to do the extra legwork,right?
GravityInsanity
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Nightengale
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Sea of Thieves is the most Twitch-friendly upcoming game MS has right now. I can see it being super successful especially with PC market.
Just think they may risk hanging themselves with a rope with a Windows Store only game.
RazielCuts
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Does anyone have a screen grab of Gies' tweet or the gist of what he said? (It's since been deleted). I can't even really imagine how he mangled together a pro MS/ positive stance in this instance.
Arby 'n' the Chief
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And yet they didn't show any of this during the demos....
People could have been ecstatic for its release even more (hype was pretty barren before its cancellation) which would probably have convinced MS to keep production going.
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Better looking multiplats isn't gonna drive sales because for that to happen you also need marketing deals imo, which MS lacks. Look at 2017, virtually every game is a Sony marketing and they'll all be plastered with "Best place to play" or some other similar tagline.
How is MS gonna advertise better looking multiplats when they don't have the marketing rights for any of them and probably won't even be allowed to mention the game like with Destiny 1 fragrance, or battlefront "choose the dark side or light side" controllers
cyber_ninja
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On of those tweets regarding IPs say:
PHIL SPENCER said:
Not sure if serious, when was the last time you guys took the risk in order to grow an IP? The only risks i see you take are the risks of losing the remnants of die hard Xbox fans.
May? How is it a question at this point?
They've shown like 10x less of Crackdown than Scalebound so it wouldn't be surprising if that gets cancelled too. Most probably get delayed into 2018.
recursive
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Except Sony didn't publish NMS on pc.
bitbydeath
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They may already be hanged and not even know it, they are literally the only Dev MS has left that are not set to working on a single IP.
And they had no input on it since NMS was being made and funded by Hello Games. Sony published it just for the physical release afaik.
digoutyoursoul
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The more he says the more I think the guy is full of it
travisbickle
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I'm surprised it was cancelled.
I agree it looked a tad ropey but games can come together at the end, and I thought it was a shoo-in for a Scorpio-enhanced version with some extra help from MS.
I agree it looked a tad ropey but games can come together at the end, and I thought it was a shoo-in for a Scorpio-enhanced version with some extra help from MS.
It's likely because MS asked for a large scale game with co op. It's hard to refine a game under those conditions. Apparently the team asked to scale back the game abit so they could get it running properly, but MS refused.
Kazuo Hirai
I really want everyone to know how much more Titanfall 2 sold than Nioh. It was a staggering amount.
Sony didn't publish NMS on PS4 too, Sony is the distributor.
If you don't trust me, you can ask Sony's CEO Kazuo Hirai.
Majukun
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he was?
i remember him never giving bayonetta a proper review because he said it was just a game "to play with one hand" or something similiar.
digoutyoursoul
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Did anyone ask what controlled the right stick?
Scrub Mcgrubb
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ReCore gets released and this game gets cancelled? Yeah... great job there...
One game was cheap to make, the other game was expensive and was extremely unlikely to make its money back.
Dunno if budget played a part in it's cancellation but it's not apples to apples
Papacheeks
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Oh he definitely did:
That asshat is the reason I don't take anything from Polygon serious.
They are without a doubt the most smug, pretentious outlet I'v ever read.
Hey, ReCore was actually pretty fun. Also a lot different than most MS exclusives. That game obviously only had a small percentage of Scalebound's budget.
YuriLowell
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Oh he definitely did:
How anyone gives this smug jerk a job is beyond me.
Seems like he would be insufferable.
giancarlo123x
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Why is this terrible fanboy on someone's payroll? Not even Microsoft would take this annoying clown.Oh he definitely did:
ArkhamFantasy
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His second point is kind of irrelevant because MS knew Platinums games didnt sell very well when they decided to hire them for Scalebound. So is MS a stupid publisher?
There's some really good stuff on there sometimes.
Recently, they just put out an outstanding on the history of FFVII.
Gies is just the reviews editor. he can be kind of a dick on twitter tho
Psychoward
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He's seriously one of the most annoying critics across any medium I've encountered. I don't envy the rest of the Polygon staff whatsoever. I'd sooner take Colin Moriarty over Gies.
3rdamention
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Oh he definitely did:
Its so weird to see Gies going in hard, blaming Platinum, when one of his own co-workers came out blaming MS (based on what he had personally heard). Then Gies deletes his tweets.
They could have released it unfinished like Recore too I guess
Overall this is a real bummer though
Papacheeks
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Yea that stuff is usually done well. But when they do previews, reviews or try to spin news thats hot it comes off like they know more or their shit dont stink than people like Kotaku who actually break fucking stories.
It's hard not getting this mental image from when they started up saying " the best gaming site on the net" something along those lines when they were getting started for their PR. ANd then you see they were sponsored by Microsoft. yea polygon so prestigious and honest without any influence(rolls eyes).
boredandlazy
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Oh he definitely did:
Unless he's on the development team, he has literally no idea what he's talking about.
Kazuo Hirai
I really want everyone to know how much more Titanfall 2 sold than Nioh. It was a staggering amount.
Isn't MS a stockholder of Polygon?I was told so.
Papacheeks
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They sponsored their start up I believe.
Yea, this guy has no fucking clue and even get's other people at polygon to think he's some kind of Jeff Gertsman or keighly in the industry. Jason Schrier fucking runs circles around this turd, and is probably one of the nicest guys I'v seen here on gaf talking in threads.
matrix-cat
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I'd love to see an exposé article on this at some point. Kamiya, with his 20+ years of experience, and Platinum, a company with a ten year history of signing contracts, delivering on time and working amicably with Sega, Konami, Nintendo, Activision and now Square-Enix, yet somehow it all goes pear-shaped as soon as they partner up with Microsoft.
Oh he definitely did:
I mean, all of this is true, but it's ignoring how toxic and unforgiving Microsoft is.
3rdamention
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Spyder_Monkey
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No, Gies is just a douchebag.
digoutyoursoul
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Not many here are but they still have something to say about it all
Considering how this thread has gone it's probably the most the game itself has been discussed on this forum
Papacheeks
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hanspampel
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Jup. A released mediocre scalebound wouldn't be interesting and talked about here at all.
A cancellation gets 200+ sites on gaf
The problem isn't really "Microsoft" so much as what Microsoft wanted though. Let's be real here. If Microsoft tapped them to make a character action title like they did with Team Ninja and Ninja Gaiden, this probably wouldn't have happened.
From the looks of things Microsoft wanted a big AAA action RPG blockbuster. A game with customization, open world elements, multiplayer, etc. Platinum Games felt they could deliver on that, or that it would at least be a worthwhile challenge to tackle.
Kamiya with his 20+ years of experience has never made a full fledged RPG. As a studio Platinum has never worked on the Xbox One. This was also JP's first game as a producer as far as I recall. None of this is a knock against them, but to present Scalebound as a normal project isn't the right way of looking at it. This was a risk for everyone.
You win
Ms paid for a movie about them or something like that
How you guys keep purposefully ignoring that people discuss more than the game is....
not beyond me.
digoutyoursoul
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Well it was predicted by many here to be a bomb anyway so the quality wouldn't of mattered I guess
WordsintheWater
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Are you guys really surprised controversial things are discussed more? That's literally how everything works.
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