Zelda more popular than Mario, suuuuuuuuuuure.
Zelda: Breath of the Wild: Launch trailer, JP boxart, March 3, 2017
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Zelda more popular than Mario, suuuuuuuuuuure.
Yea I've heard that several times.
Neoleo2143
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This actually applies to anything with a metallic property.
Most of the bosses occur in the overworld rather than in temples or Shrines. Shrines do contain loot that is quite good to get though. As for major items, you get most of what would be called "dungeon items" at the beginning of the game actually rather than spreading them out over the entire game like previous Zelda games have done and many of what could be called generic items have useful properties of their own such as Throwing spears having longer range when thrown or the Fire Rod breaking more easily on strikes but being able to toss fireballs. Link has most of his relevant moveset at the beginning of the game. As a result, there's a more substantial curve in complexity in the beginning as all the systems in the game cause the items and abilities that link has to also have multiple relevant uses like Whistling to draw enemies in order to sneak by them or get a better shot off/set a trap.
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! I hope that, while playing, I see a "arrow mid air struck by lightning" happen >>They said it on the Treehouse Live stream (in the section where the guarding was constantly killing the guy IIRC).
Hmm, from watching analysis and the trailer over again. I feel like Zelda probably awoke the guardians or calamity Ganon by accident, which leads to Link getting super fucked up. Link is probably trying to help Zelda but almost dies, leading her to use her goddess magic to save him and drags his ass to a resurrection chamber. Where he heals his wounds for 100 years and Zelda puts the Master Sword where the Deku Tree is to protect it. From here on out, I'm guessing either Zelda tries to defeat Ganon and loses, or his held up somewhere and Link has to awaken her to beat Ganon.
Game has me hyped out of my mind, I've pre-ordered a Switch and the game, also have it pre-ordered for WiiU. Hoping hey come out with more analysis between both versions so I can make a decision. If the WiiU version is locked at 720p and has a lot of FPS drops, I might just keep the Switch version and take the plunge. Other observations I've kind of made from watching analysis videos.
Looks like the four giant creature/bosses are the dungeons themselves. You can see Link running inside these moving structures. I'm guessing one is inside the salamander and the other the camel. What bums me about this is, that the dungeons look kind of the same. There doesn't seem to be a fire/ice/water theme, but more about how you get to the bosses themselves. The part in the trailer where Link is fighting the fire breathing Lizafo is probably on the climb up to go inside the salamander. My main concern about this is the boss fights. I really hope its not just going inside and traversing the dungeons to beat them. I really want them to have pilots or something that function as the bosses. It would kind of suck if I just have to climb them and then solve puzzles to cleanse them.
I haven't seen any heart pieces either, maybe those will be replaced by Spirit Orbs, but I loved heart pieces.
Game has me hyped out of my mind, I've pre-ordered a Switch and the game, also have it pre-ordered for WiiU. Hoping hey come out with more analysis between both versions so I can make a decision. If the WiiU version is locked at 720p and has a lot of FPS drops, I might just keep the Switch version and take the plunge. Other observations I've kind of made from watching analysis videos.
Looks like the four giant creature/bosses are the dungeons themselves. You can see Link running inside these moving structures. I'm guessing one is inside the salamander and the other the camel. What bums me about this is, that the dungeons look kind of the same. There doesn't seem to be a fire/ice/water theme, but more about how you get to the bosses themselves. The part in the trailer where Link is fighting the fire breathing Lizafo is probably on the climb up to go inside the salamander. My main concern about this is the boss fights. I really hope its not just going inside and traversing the dungeons to beat them. I really want them to have pilots or something that function as the bosses. It would kind of suck if I just have to climb them and then solve puzzles to cleanse them.
I haven't seen any heart pieces either, maybe those will be replaced by Spirit Orbs, but I loved heart pieces.
We shouldn't compare Mario Odyssey's trailer to the newest Zelda trailer then. Because Mario is clearly far less popular than Zelda right now. It's not like Mario released on mobile or anything recently.
I keep looking at the trailer and I'm still a little stunned we're so close to its' release. A little over 6 weeks away.
Call me crazy but I feel like this game will have 1 of 2 possibilities:
1 - After you beat the game, you'll run cleanup with Zelda in a Green Tunic (Haven't seen it, but we think it's in the game)
2 - After you beat the game, you'll start over again in NG+ like Demon's Souls (How the trailer ended made me think this)
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This game...
Greatness.
Neoleo2143
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Found this the from Reddit
Physics
This game...
Yeah this is from back at e3. If you get sent reeling from an attack, you can even take bonus damage.
Aldric
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Anyone has a hunch about the location of the Great Deku Tree and the Master Sword? For the moment we kind of have a pretty clear picture of the regions: Lake Hylia south of the Plateau, Hyrule Field between the Plateau and Hyrule Castle, Gerudo Desert in the south west, red mountain range north of the desert, bird colossus/bird people region central west, snowy mountains north west, tropical lizalfos ruins south east, Zora Domain central east, Death Mountain north east.
That leaves regions next to Hyrule Field unaccounted for. Personally l think the central northern region between the snowy mountains and Death Mountain would be a good candidate for the Lost Woods. As far as l know we haven't seen anything of it yet.
That leaves regions next to Hyrule Field unaccounted for. Personally l think the central northern region between the snowy mountains and Death Mountain would be a good candidate for the Lost Woods. As far as l know we haven't seen anything of it yet.
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This game...
The amount of detail in combat from this game have really impressed me.
DecoReturns
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Watching the trailer again. I'm looking forward to the boss battles. Hopefully there's not just one solution to beating them.
Yes, from the music to the graphics.
What if he's Ganondorf?
Deckard Chapel
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I genuinely appreciate all of your opinions, but...I give you this to marinate on:
https://youtu.be/VE2Dc1sx71U
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No video game teaser - even in recent years - has generated such a fervor of passion, actual tears of joy, excitement and hype, as this particular "The Legend of Zelda" reveal.
*Realistically* Hope for the best, but prepare for disappointment.
If this game truly delivers an incredibly huge open-world, teeming with life and things to see and do - as well as having a multitude of dungeons/shrines, most of which will feature unique bosses and items o'plenty - we will all be lucky enough to have been there for such a monumental occurrence.
To even think, that this game could actually re-create, as well as enact and make us feel everything we saw in the original 1986 "The Legend of Zelda" instruction booklet artwork - and then some - but on a far more detailed and expansive scope, is beyond comprehension.
I sincerely hope that we get exactly that - which is everything Nintendo has been hyping/promising since the release of "The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time" - in the finished, polished, retail release of "The Legend of Zelda: Breath of The Wild".
To anyone who played this game with a Joy-Con in each hand (ala Wii Remote and Nunchuk): how do the motion controls work? Does moving either Joy-Con affect the camera/aiming, or is all the gyro-related action relegated to the one in the right hand? I'm hoping for the latter, as motion controls could be more fiddly with the former.
No one is saying that LoZ isn't extremely beloved, but I don't see how that video proves that the franchise is more popular than Mario.
OK but Zelda is still provably less popular than Mario. This isn't a matter of opinion. And I say this as someone who's really excited for BOTW.
Deckard Chapel
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Okay - I ask you this in all earnest - show me *any* Mario reveal that is at the same level of fandom, emotion and devotion as what I shared in my last post.
It's not an opinion. Mario sales shit on Zelda from a great height.
Zelda appeals to gaming enthusiasts like the ones on this board, but Mario has a much broader audience.
Is the (smaller) Zelda fanbase more passionate? Possibly, but that's not something that can be measured objectively. Sales can be, and Mario dominates in sales.
OrbitalBeard
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Is the average Zelda fan more passionate about the IP than the average Mario fan? Probably.
Is Zelda as a franchise more popular than Mario? No.
Popularity = sales. And Mario sells more.
I think the reason we haven't seen the instrument of the game is because it's the Ocarina of Time.
Which is, incidentally, an instrument you blow into.
Oh boy... don't even, the hype would be too much. They've been pretty smart at not showing whatever the instrument is though, we haven't even seen a UI icon for it or anything.
I've heard that some of the shrines are hidden and you have to find the spot where they are and play a tune to make them raise out of the ground - so if this is true the instrument must be easy to get/given to you early on to not stunt your open world exploration.
Imagine Zelda's Lullaby on that thing.
But how does that prove... Sigh, nvm.
Neoleo2143
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Oh, I was also worried about this but apparently Bokoblins can use heavy weapons as well with their own moveset. So I think the enemy variety is going to end up pretty decent for a game that's not entirely focused on combat.
This trailer is so amazing.
Voice acting will be a nice addition to this franchise.
I also think even though we've seen a lot of footage since E3 with the demo, there is probably so much to see. This trailer makes me think that people will be really blown away by just how much of the game is left to discover on our own.
Voice acting will be a nice addition to this franchise.
I also think even though we've seen a lot of footage since E3 with the demo, there is probably so much to see. This trailer makes me think that people will be really blown away by just how much of the game is left to discover on our own.
Neoleo2143
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Hilariously, one of the other enemies uses a Hoe and it's actually more powerful than pretty much most weapons you could get at the time.
Also there's also been a pretty significant detail to update in that Opals have water properties where they didn't explain that before which means in addition to the water based Lizalfos shown in the Trailer there might even be water arrows and weapons with water elemental properties. I really like that they chose to make the elemental gems valuable so there could potentially be a nice choice between using it on weapons or other items and selling it.
Deckard Chapel
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Does chicken outsell steak?
Most likely, but I'd rather have a steak.
I'm not trying to crunch the numbers here - I'm 40 and I remember when "Super Mario Bros." came out originally, which is before "The Legend of Zelda" - but "The Legend of Zelda" always resonated more with me and when I see the fan reactions to the new games, *year after year*; it just seems like sales are outweighed by the love and passion for the Zelda series.
Let us not forget "The Super Mario Bros. Super Show" which is *notoriously all about the Mario games* - but every Friday, they had " The Legend of Zelda" episodes [13 of them], which were far more popular than the Mario ones. I remember loving the Mario episodes, but being super excited for the Zelda ones every Friday. Maybe it's just a personal thing, but the Zelda series has always been just a tad-bit cooler than the Mario series to me, which puts it *definitively* on top
"Do the Mario!"
"Hey Paisano's it's the Super Mario Brothers Super Show! *Take one step and then again, let's do the Mario...all together then!
...just like that!*"
Does chicken outsell steak?
Most likely, but I'd rather have a steak.
I'm not trying to crunch the numbers here - I'm 40 and I remember when "Super Mario Bros." came out originally, which is before "The Legend of Zelda" - but "The Legend of Zelda" always resonated more with me and when I see the fan reactions to the new games, *year after year*; it just seems like sales are outweighed by the love and passion for the Zelda series.
Let us not forget "The Super Mario Bros. Super Show" which is *notoriously all about the Mario games* - but every Friday, they had " The Legend of Zelda" episodes [13 of them], which were far more popular than the Mario ones. I remember loving the Mario episodes, but being super excited for the Zelda ones every Friday. Maybe it's just a personal thing, but the Zelda series has always been just a tad-bit cooler than the Mario series to me, which puts it *definitively* on top
"Do the Mario!"
"Hey Paisano's it's the Super Mario Brothers Super Show! *Take one step and then again, let's do the Mario...all together then!
...just like that!*"
You´re just trying to generalize your own personal preference and make that a fact. A fact is that everyone knows Mario, while not many people outside gaming circles know Link (and many people even call him Zelda). Mario is Mr. videogame, at some point he was even more recognizable than Mickey Mouse. He´s more recognized than Link and his games sell a ton more since the very first installment.
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This has probably been discussed...but does anyone have any ideas for why Zelda is still alive in the present? Watching the trailers they've released, I get the impression that she was alive and active 100 years earlier when Ganon took over and is still alive when Link wakes up. We all know Link was kept in some kind of stasis chamber, so he's alive and preserved if he's also from 100 years earlier. However, how is Zelda still alive and sounding young?
Maybe she slept too.
Maybe this is a different Zelda.
Maybe, in a tragic twist, she didn't stay young and when you meet her she's actually old. Old woman narrator in the trailer identified.
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Yeah, when I wrote my post, I thought about that third option. I'd rather she still be Link's age so she can participate more fully in the game, but if they show her doing enough in the past, that'd be okay with me, too.
I get the feeling the old woman is actually impa.
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That seems like the most likely option. I wonder if her being old means we might get Young Warrior Impa again in the past (I really hope so). Or maybe this Impa is just forever old and she was put in a stasis, too.
Honestly, I think the 100 shrine thing is overkill. Sure, it sounds cool to have that many, but I think everyone's gonna get bored of them pretty quickly. I think most people would prefer to have around 10 meaty full dungeons instead.
Deckard Chapel
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What you brought up about Mario is in fact a good point, because I identified with Mario before I knew what Zelda even was...
...but, more recognizable than Mickey Mouse??
Mickey Mouse was already an identifiable figure far before Nintendo was even a household name - but that's besides the point - I'll concede that maybe in the late 80's Mario and Mickey Mouse were synonymous because of their popularity - especially on Nintendo's end.
This day and age, a new "Legend of Zelda" release has far more of an impact than a new Mario reveal - but I'll be happy to eat crow this holiday season if the new Mario blows away this new Zelda
I just realized. At the end of the trailer, Zelda is helping Link get up:
Only took countless rewatches to see this.
i'm still believing that link can fly near the end.
I mean the world is created that way.
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This game...
Nice, my hype is starting to go to preorder point.
Jonneh3003
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I just realized. At the end of the trailer, Zelda is helping Link get up:
Only took countless rewatches to see this.
That or she's trying to stop him, the back of the box does show Zelda trying to pull the master sword though
Or maybe that's a flashback to the part that happened 100 years ago, could be a different Zelda.
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