Trump Meets With Martin Luther King Jr.'s Son

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Only because you have the power of hindsight on your side.

Johnson was a guy who called the original civil rights act a "Nigger" bill. Lets not act like he was far away from Trump when it came to racial issues.

I'm watching that HBO Biopic about LBJ right now, and the man might've been racist on a personal level, but i'd challenge you to find a US politician who did more for the black man in the last 100 years. LBJ tried to drag men like Sessions kicking and screaming into the modern era, even if he might have agreed with them down in his heart.

Johnson was a man of action who didn't take any bullshit. Trump is a man of bullshit who only accidentally stumbles into action.
 
Maybe they wouldnt have to fight over memorabilia for money if your countrymen didnt make their father risk his life so that you guys could treat blacks like actual people?

If they are trash what does it say about the rest of Americans?

Or maybe children often fight over money left over from a parent's death
 
Maybe they wouldnt have to fight over memorabilia for money if your countrymen didnt make their father risk his life so that you guys could treat blacks like actual people?

If they are trash what does it say about the rest of Americans?

I'm black, friend. I'm even in the same Fraternity of both MLKJr AND MLK III. They're (His children) not highly regarded in my circles or where I come from.
 
Communication, which is one of the things MLK believed in, is a good thing.
Effective communication requires an earnest effort from both parties to understand each other.

Why do you think Donald Trump was attempting to do that with this meeting given his historical and recent behavior?
 
Because Trump just tells everyone that meets with them what they want to hear. You have to look at his actions to see the real Trump.
This. Obama and several others have said the same thing. Constructive conversation. He understands etc
 
He will be back to criticizing Lewis in a few days.

I'm starting to actually believe Trump is a master manipulator considering how is able to tell everyone exactly what they want to hear while meaning none of it.

He sets up his controlled environment PR stunts and people lap the shit up that comes out of his ass.

Not having a conscience really helps.
 
Nothing is going to come of this, but people of consequence can't just spend the next four years pretending Trump isn't the President and refusing to meet with him.

Oh yes the fuck they can.

When it comes to a point that meeting with the President will grant you nothing, nothing, but a starring role in the latest spin for his alt-right army to use to talk down the people you represent ("See, Trump cares about black people! He just met with MLK's son! See, YOU'RE the real racists"); when all your presence does is HELP Trump and his racist army spread their message, then not only do you have the option to NOT meet with him, you have the moral obligation to not meet with him.

You don't grant the title respect. You grant the person holding it respect.


I mean really, what do y'all think MLK III could have said to Trump in that meeting that the black community and black legislators at large aren't shouting at Trump right now? He's heard it, and he has no ear to listen until you FORCE him to. Meeting him at Trump Tower is not making him listen. It's you playing the game he wants you to play.
 
Oh yes the fuck they can.

When it comes to a point that meeting with the President will grant you nothing, nothing, but a starring role in the latest spin for his alt-right army to use to talk down the people you represent ("See, Trump cares about black people! He just met with MLK's son! See, YOU'RE the real racists); when all your presence does is HELP Trump and his racist army spread their message, then not only do you have the option to NOT meet with him, you have the moral obligation to not meet with him.

You don't grant the title respect. You grant the person holding it respect.


I mean really, what do y'all think MLK III could have said to Trump in that meeting that the black community and black legislators at large aren't shouting at Trump right now? He's heard it, and he has no ear to listen until you FORCE it to. Meeting him at Trump Tower is not making him listen. It's you playing the game he wants you to play.


Seriously, what people don't seem to understand is that it's not that Trump is some young person who doesn't understand a lot of the issues and is looking to learn. He's a 70 year old who has been racist his entire life and socipathic narcissitic bully as well. He manipulates everyone around him to get what he ultimately wants.

I mean at best you might be able to convince him to do something by saying how much people will love him for it because his ego is all that matters. Of course one talk with the next party will have him change in his tune in 10 minutes.
 
Nothing is going to come of this, but people of consequence can't just spend the next four years pretending Trump isn't the President and refusing to meet with him.
It's absolutely counter productive for a Civil Rights spokesperson to meet with Donald Trump precisely during a time period when such a meeting gives him cover for his anti-Civil Rights comments and actions. Trump currently needs the appearance of being willing to work with the opposition, specifically minorities, even though he has no actual intention to do so. This is a indirect attack on John Lewis, and it's incredibly disappointing to see MLK's son allow himself to be used as a political heat sink for Trump's bullshit.


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Oh yes the fuck they can.

When it comes to a point that meeting with the President will grant you nothing, nothing, but a starring role in the latest spin for his alt-right army to use to talk down the people you represent ("See, Trump cares about black people! He just met with MLK's son! See, YOU'RE the real racists"); when all your presence does is HELP Trump and his racist army spread their message, then not only do you have the option to NOT meet with him, you have the moral obligation to not meet with him.

You don't grant the title respect. You grant the person holding it respect.


I mean really, what do y'all think MLK III could have said to Trump in that meeting that the black community and black legislators at large aren't shouting at Trump right now? He's heard it, and he has no ear to listen until you FORCE him to. Meeting him at Trump Tower is not making him listen. It's you playing the game he wants you to play.

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I'm watching that HBO Biopic about LBJ right now, and the man might've been racist on a personal level, but i'd challenge you to find a US politician who did more for the black man in the last 100 years. LBJ tried to drag men like Sessions kicking and screaming into the modern era, even if he might have agreed with them down in his heart.

Johnson was a man of action who didn't take any bullshit. Trump is a man of bullshit who only accidentally stumbles into action.

Thing is, at this point nobody could have truly known that about Johnson at the same point.

Trump could turn around and become Johnson pt II. We don't know yet. We cant begrudge III for having a dialogue with the man.

Or maybe children often fight over money left over from a parent's death

Exactly, and it doesnt make them trash.

They have heirlooms worth millions. What does the average African American family have? Hell, what does the average American family have in terms of wealth? Anybody would fight over millions.

I'm black, friend. I'm even in the same Fraternity of both MLKJr AND MLK III. They're (His children) not highly regarded in my circles or where I come from.

Alpha man? They've(King Children) given much more to the African American cause than Alphas have for the past half century. Your organization is an excuse for young black men to beat each other asses, while piggy-backing off the legacy men before you created.
 
He will be back to criticizing Lewis in a few days.

I'm starting to actually believe Trump is a master manipulator considering how is able to tell everyone exactly what they want to hear while meaning none of it.

He sets up his controlled environment PR stunts and people lap the shit up that comes out of his ass.

He's just a man with a platform that will always get attention and for whom decorum is an afterthought. With that combination you don't have to be a master at anything to reach as high as he did, just the right combination of name recognition, lack of care for established practice and people (American media) that will always give you attention no matter what it is you are saying.
 
It's true that we need progressive leaders to take every chance to get in republican ears.

The problem is that republicans tend to only make these gestures when they need to create a distraction from some horrible shit they're doing that would otherwise make the headlines. I don't think these kinds of meetings will make an appreciable difference.
 
Oh yes the fuck they can.

When it comes to a point that meeting with the President will grant you nothing, nothing, but a starring role in the latest spin for his alt-right army to use to talk down the people you represent ("See, Trump cares about black people! He just met with MLK's son! See, YOU'RE the real racists"); when all your presence does is HELP Trump and his racist army spread their message, then not only do you have the option to NOT meet with him, you have the moral obligation to not meet with him.

You don't grant the title respect. You grant the person holding it respect.


I mean really, what do y'all think MLK III could have said to Trump in that meeting that the black community and black legislators at large aren't shouting at Trump right now? He's heard it, and he has no ear to listen until you FORCE him to. Meeting him at Trump Tower is not making him listen. It's you playing the game he wants you to play.

This is never, ever going to happen, especially not when the invitation becomes "meet the President at the White House" instead of "meet Donald Trump at Trump Tower". I've said it before, and I'll say it again - four years is a long, long time. "Non-normalization" as a political goal will not succeed.
 
Alpha man? They've(King Children) given much more to the African American cause than Alphas have for the past half century. Your organization is an excuse for young black men to beat each other asses, while piggy-backing off the legacy men before you created.

Well, that's nice of you to say. But Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc. is a non hazing organization, just like the rest of the NPHC Greek Orgs. : )

Totally ignore the part where I said I was black though. Yup. What have MLKs children done other than fight over who gets to make money off their father's name?
 
Well, that's nice of you to say. But Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc. is a non hazing organization, just like the rest of the NPHC Greek Orgs. : )

Totally ignore the part where I said I was black though. Yup. What have MLKs children done other than fight over who gets to make money off their father's name?

LOL @ the bolded.
 
This is never, ever going to happen, especially not when the invitation becomes "meet the President at the White House" instead of "meet Donald Trump at Trump Tower". I've said it before, and I'll say it again - four years is a long, long time. "Non-normalization" as a political goal will not succeed.

This does nothing to change the criticism.

And frankly, under a president who has already broken so many norms, I have little respect for politicians who continue to shackle themselves to those very norms to the very detriment of the causes they claim to value.

So Trump is the President. Fuck Trump. As Aaronology said, meeting with Trump as a black leader at this time, during the weekend, is an indirect slap in the face to John Lewis, the Civil Rights Movement, and all the black people that Trump and his family have personally hurt and for whom he feels no remorse.
 
I wish black people would stop playing themselves. Meeting Trump just means you will be used to shout down others.

But at least we know where you stand so we won't get stabbed in the back
 
Well, that's nice of you to say. But Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc. is a non hazing organization, just like the rest of the NPHC Greek Orgs. : )

Totally ignore the part where I said I was black though. Yup. What have MLKs children done other than fight over who gets to make money off their father's name?

They work with community organizations in Atlanta, with Hosea feed the hungry, and King III has his own nonprofit developing future leaders in the African American community. Funny enough they don't have this in the news, but only when they fight over heirlooms.

What have alphas done in the past half century? Outside charge poor kids thousands to join their "Brotherhood", be apart of a lame ass greek weekend at the park where they stomp around like a bunch of idiots, or haze each other? Leaders of the black community? You guys cant even run your own organization. I remember seeing Skip Mason driving around in a nice Benz I am sure you and your "brahs" helped pay for.
 
What if Trump is slipping a Russian-made control drug into their Trump Water (distilled hooker piss) and that's why they come out feeling "constructive"

So the plot of under cover brother?

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How do people keep getting fooled by Trump? He did it to Al Gore, Bill Gates, Obama said he though things went well when they met. It's clear what he does. He puts you at ease then immediately stabs you in the back when you're out the door.
 
They work with community organizations in Atlanta, with Hosea feed the hungry, and King III has his own nonprofit developing future leaders in the African American community. Funny enough they don't have this in the news, but only when they fight over heirlooms.

What have alphas done in the past half century? Outside charge poor kids thousands to join their "Brotherhood", be apart of a lame ass greek weekend at the park where they stomp around like a bunch of idiots, or haze each other? Leaders of the black community? You guys cant even run your own organization. I remember seeing Skip Mason driving around in a nice Benz I am sure you and your "brahs" helped pay for.

I don't know which line you dropped but you have to let that hurt go bro. You should really stop speaking on things you have no idea about. Especially caping for MLK III and his siblings, weird hill to die on.
 
I wish black people would stop playing themselves. Meeting Trump just means you will be used to shout down others.

But at least we know where you stand so we won't get stabbed in the back

Yes they are just being used as political tools and photo ops. MLK Jr's son is being used in the same way as Ray Lewis and Jim Brown before him. I am tired of people giving this guy a photo op just for him to spit in their face the very next day. The man is 70 years old has been a racist, sexist, narcissistic, liar for most of his life are people really that naive to believe a hour sit down will changes his view on certain people?
 
I don't know which line you dropped but you have to let that hurt go bro. You should really stop speaking on things you have no idea about. Especially caping for MLK III and his siblings, weird hill to die on.

Do they or do they not help with Hosea feed the hungry and other charities in the Atlanta area? You cant deny this. You would know if you and your alpha "Brahs" did more community work and less stomping in the yard and at the greek weekend.

Also where did I lie? Skip stole your dues for himself. So much for black leadership of Alpha men. Black and gold straight to Skip's bank account :D
 
How do people keep getting fooled by Trump? He did it to Al Gore, Bill Gates, Obama said he though things went well when they met. It's clear what he does. He puts you at ease then immediately stabs you in the back when you're out the door.

He's a coward, that's why. He's unwilling to confront anyone in private, he only does his humiliation displays in front of a crowd.
 

He's literally telling us that white America is too racist to consider another black person for president and that no matter how terrible any white president might be, whiteness will never be a disqualifying factor for a future white candidate. LOL

He has no clue how stupid he is and neither does anyone that voted for him. It's astonishing that this level of imbecility can make it to the White House. If you voted for this man, you should walk into a jet engine.
 
So... The plan to use the feud with John Lewis to mask the stories about him being a Russian puppet backfired, so this is an attempt to mask that?

It's really depress to see MLK III support the destruction of his father's legacy like this. He wasn't even supposed to be the right wing fanatic in the family!

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You know damn well that dude ain't learned shit.

It's hope, though. It's what we need.

We have 139 pages for the thread about Trump being a kompromat-guided puppet for Putin where the opinion seems to overwhelmingly be that it'll lead to a mass-impeachment of the bastard & his cabinet. It should, but we know damn well that's just hope, too.
 
Son of Civil Rights Hero goes to meet White Nationalist in his golden tower in NYC.

He had to go to Trump. That's all you need to read from his meeting.
 
Trump strikes me as an inattentive listener. What's the point of a sitdown?

Trump gets a nice picture and some good headlines.

The alt-right gets a soundbite of the latest fool talking about how "attentive" Trump is even as he's in the middle of legislating against you.

What do you get? A dunce cap.
 
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