I mean, yeah, I guess, but we are talking about Nintendo here.
Reggie: Switch matchmaking and lobbies handled through phone app
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I mean, yeah, I guess, but we are talking about Nintendo here.
If the features were baked in the OS they would be as portable as the console and not require the use of a smartphone though...
People gotta trade pokemon somehow.
PumpkinSpice
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Why is this a bad idea?
I don't play games online. Can someone enlighten me?
I don't play games online. Can someone enlighten me?
Dragonslayer_023
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I'm assuming you can at least matchmake, and it has a friendlist.
Nintendo needs to stop getting the benefit of the doubt or have all their dumb ass decisions handwaved by their most dedicated fans.
Not that it would matter. Nintendo lives in a bubble and will do whatever they want blissfully unaware that everyone has surpassed them in the online service arena. But Nintendo fans need to start holding them to the fire and stop defending them on everything. Seriously you can't even defend this shit. Hell nintendo can't even do the Free Games thing right that the competition does better.
how?
Instead of having a earbud/mike plugged into the switch you have to deal with 2 devices. It's kinda the opposite of portability
The Horror the horror
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How will I be able to hear the game clearly with headphones attached to my smartphone and my ears listening to another sound source?
Dark Cloud
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I'm not defending it, but way more people have a smart device (not just phone) than a Bluetooth headset when they're on the go. I think a Bluetooth headset should be an option because I thought the Switch had Bluetooth.
I did forget about the headset jack...
AnimaOnline
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If communication features are restricted to an external app then no one will use chat. Really it won't be much different from Nintendo's previous consoles. It's a shame but it's Nintendo. They've always been paranoid about allowing voice chat. They're very conscious about being family friendly so this is very likely more about kids not hearing abuse than it is about practicality.
disappeared
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They're dreading a lawsuit that will never, ever happen. And as a result they continue with draconian design decisions.
ShironRedshift
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It's interesting you bring up smart watches. The reason people like those things is because they're more convenient than phones for some things, such as quickly checking who's calling you without needing to take your phone out of your pocket to obtain that information.
That's also the exact same reason that's at the heart of why people are complaining about thisbecause unlike smart watches, no benefit is being offered to the consumer here. Yes, most people already have phones, but why would they want to access these functions through their phones instead of having them built in to the Switch itself? Especially when this poses complications such as how will people listen to both voice chat and game audio without putting their phone on speaker, which wouldn't be a problem in the first place if this stuff was built into the Switch, the Joy Cons had audio ports, making a 4G model of the Switch, and other such much more elegant solutions.
Unlike smart watches, which fixes problems consumers may have had, this creates them. The fact that people have smartphones is irrelevant when it's not offering any benefits in this case but purely neutral at best and detrimental in multiple ways at worst. That's why people are complaining about this.
Having console matchmaking actually be handled on a console is something we've all been pretty used to for over 15 years now.
Because these are basic features that competitors nailed well over a decade ago, and Nintendo just seems to be outright refusing to implement them in ways that aren't ass backwards and infuriating.
Neverthelesser
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Pretty much every other platform does matchmaking seamlessly via the game itself or through some system level service. Having to use another device to do what should be done on the console is a hassle.
We don't actually know this for sure yet.
But given what we know currently it wouldn't be surprising.
I will never understand the mentality of people who make decisions based on nostalgia. Nintendo was great, Nintendo was innovative, Nintendo deserved market space. They lost this privileged long time ago.
I am not expecting people to like what I like, or that my opinion supercedes yours but there is not a single reason, logically thinking, to own a switch or support Nintendo and their device. It's the equivalent of buying every iteration of Apple product or buying clothing and other products based on brand name alone.
Is Nintendo a the switch a complete write of ? No, they have yet to prove it but it 100% is right now.
I am not expecting people to like what I like, or that my opinion supercedes yours but there is not a single reason, logically thinking, to own a switch or support Nintendo and their device. It's the equivalent of buying every iteration of Apple product or buying clothing and other products based on brand name alone.
Is Nintendo a the switch a complete write of ? No, they have yet to prove it but it 100% is right now.
Calm waterfall
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What the hell is this? So backward and stupid. The Vita had those on the device in 2012. It's 2017 and Nintendo shows how incompetent they are in handling the multiplayer. The nerve they have for charging for their online service.
Godzilla's Left Toe
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More like a good portion of thier RND went into the Joycons and online was a after thought.
UnemployedVillain
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Crazy expensive? Also there are wifi hotspots everywhere.
I agree it's puzzling and frustrating. From what we know now, this sounds like it should have been an option, not a requirement.
MADGAME
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How do we not know this if people are confirming there are no headset jacks in any of the controllers? If the jack is in the Switch, and the Switch is docked, how would this be possible?
And headset support doesn't?
It's really quite simple. It's easier to play games and chat online with one device than it is with two. It's always been done with one because it just makes more sense. How could having a separate device to handle the online UI stuff be better than doing it all through the device you're already using anyway?
Darklor01
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Need to charge even more devices, pay to play online using an app on a Smartphone which needs data usage (wifi or cell data which may be capped or cost money including overage fees), possible missed calls due to game and chat audio using app on phone, paying for an app on top of paying for online service if the full version isn't free... etc.
The app will probably work fine on some $20 prepaid phone. The crazy thing to me is in the case of contract customers or people who trade their phones in... do you really want to risk dropping your phone or cracking the screen for something as needless as this? I don't even attempt to handle my phone in the dark or while I am already holding a controller (let alone an actual game system). I just yell at Alexa if I need to know something about the weather, traffic, or when a football game is.
Did they start taking suggestions from Square Trade on how their online service should work?
Wireless headsets might be possible. We know the system supports Bluetooth.
We don't know that the OS supports audio on headsets yet.
Parapraxis
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The theme of switch is a home console you can take with you, that is literally Nintendo's messaging.
So this in fact goes against the theme of the system, which while portable, is at it's "peak" at home.
Portability is using one portable device to play games online and another device to voice chat through that game online? How is that more portable that just using the one device to play games and chat?
AnimaOnline
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What's even more bizarre is Microsoft or Sony would be getting the shit ripped out of them if they did anything like this. Nintendo however seems to get a free pass on this stuff. People are confused but it's hardly the media frenzy you'd get otherwise. People have just learnt to accept that they sort of just do what they want to do. it's strange.
Maybe this will turn out to be less of a hassle than it sounds but man, what's even the point of an external chat app in a world with Skype and Discord? If people need to use a phone to chat to their in-game friends there are easier more established apps they could use than anything Nintendo will be able to put forward.
Maybe this will turn out to be less of a hassle than it sounds but man, what's even the point of an external chat app in a world with Skype and Discord? If people need to use a phone to chat to their in-game friends there are easier more established apps they could use than anything Nintendo will be able to put forward.
Pretty sure it was this. They never once made their consoles with voice chat in mind so none of the controllers have any kind of headset support.
DeNa/Nintendo then look at that and realize that Nintendo needs voice chat to compete in the online subscription space and makes the app as a band aid.
MADGAME
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I see. Bluetooth would be less than ideal for me if I were to gain with a headset, but I really do unless I'm in a party.
This is a straight up debacle in my opinion.
Someone on the other voice chat thread suggested that the people without smartphones could put their laptop next to them to run an android emulator to run the app to chat with your friends. Sounds like a reasonable solution for you. Keeps with the portability of the system.
SuperSonic1305
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I can't......this is just too much. At this point I may never buy a switch.
really sucks that Switch doesnt support voice chat, but at same time i dont talk to randoms and if i need to the phone isnt a bad solution while keeping out the racist and annoying loser from flooding chats and lobbies.
Gotta see how this plays out, we have it free till Fall so if its complete shit hopefully they'll have time to change it.
but seriously the fact that i'll hopefully never have to deal with ignorant, racist, loud mouth babies that i normally run into every once in awhile while playing online is almosty a god send in its self.
Gotta see how this plays out, we have it free till Fall so if its complete shit hopefully they'll have time to change it.
but seriously the fact that i'll hopefully never have to deal with ignorant, racist, loud mouth babies that i normally run into every once in awhile while playing online is almosty a god send in its self.
i dont even know how to mute people in OverWatch on my ps4 and its infuriating having to mute my tv
Freeman
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Its like having to use your smartphone so you can control your toaster.
OverturePT
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Are we reading the same thread?
Yeah I'm still disappointed about that.
Darklor01
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??? I'm not sure, but, it seems like people are flipping out on Nintendo about this.
Ragnar Blackmane
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So if I want to avoid that I have to set up a hotspot with my Laptop, connect my Smartphone to the hotspot and then connect my Switch to the smartphone, just so I can play online on the switch (and pay for that privilige of course), rather than just hooking up my Switch to the internet like on every other console. This means I need to have my laptop and smartphone running at all times, the latter hanging on a charger because those networking features eat through my phone's battery, in turn resulting in a bigger electricity bill.
And because Nintendo is partnered with Apple I assume that Android support will be a secondary issue for them, particularly because pretty much no one has an Android in Japan and so the overaged, conservative decision makers at Nintendo probably don't even consider their existence during decision making.
What thread are you reading?
I'm sorry but have you seen Mario Odyssey?
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