I am in the middle, I like it for the most part, but the "new hard mode" makes me worried.
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I am in the middle, I like it for the most part, but the "new hard mode" makes me worried.
R_thanatos
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Some people want a complete experience ...
Some people want to pay for a game , experience it without waiting for an additionnal story content many many more months afterwards.
heck some people waited for the withcer 3 complete edition before jumping in. It's not that hard to accept that people don't want to feel like they've missed something.
And it happens
Nazgul_Hunter
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This is preposterous. Was Witcher 3 incomplete before Hearts of Stone? Blood & Wine?
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
So uh, what's in this hard mode?
Its clear to me that the 1st pack is there to try to hold the attention of the players until tje new dungeon and/or story is ready.
Meh, hardly surprising. Every other company does it, it seemed inevitable especially after Mario, Mario Kart and Smash started having DLC. For $20 that's about the same value compared to other offerings on the Xbox/PS side.
May not be a MK8 level of value but nothing outrageous tbh. I'm curious what they mean by new original story though. Playable Zelda campaign would be awesome.
May not be a MK8 level of value but nothing outrageous tbh. I'm curious what they mean by new original story though. Playable Zelda campaign would be awesome.
I sure hope that Nintendo would be able to copy the DLC treatment for Witcher 3. It was just amazing. Some of the DLC had more content than some full-price AAA titles. And the game was improved continuously.
However, no other company was able to match CD Project on this one and think this will still be the case in the years to come.
What does it matter?
Mass Effect 3 is one of the few examples I can think of where it actually felt like some of the DLC (Javik) was cut from the main game to be dlc. I think that's the exception rather than the rule though. Most DLC would not exist if it wasn't developed under its own budget with the intention to charge for it.
Agreed. Difficulty being a additional cost makes little sense.
maybe it adds more enemies, new enemies and maybe different placement of items as well as more damage? I am trying to rationalize the reason.
Vital Tundra
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Probably a Switch shirt. Gotta advertise baby.
Phillips455
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I'm wondering if the expansion pass is cross buy.
I.e. if I buy it on wiiu then I will also have it for the switch.
I.e. if I buy it on wiiu then I will also have it for the switch.
If I'm honest I do.
But I grew up playing videogames where cosmetic items were things you could unlock for free in a game, and harder difficulty modes were unlocked after completing a game.
I'm all for expansions like say The lost and the Damned and The ballad of Gay Tony. I feel like I'm paying for something that adds value.
But when it's a car pack in a game, or additional weapons I feel like I shouldn't be paying for it.
There's no denying that often dlc (and micro transactions) are there to milk the consumer, and it's a trend that I wish didn't exist.
Worldshaker
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I would be more excited about this DLC if they included a use for the Wii U tablet. Maybe the Map DLC will add that to the gamepad?! Or maybe its an Amiibo unlockable?
LambdaTeos
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people should wait until we have more information to make a judgment, like, wait for the actual game to be released, it's not like it's a pre launch promotion... it's a season pass
We don't know the extent of this as of now, we only have a small idea of it
But i guess it's easier to just explode in anger and rant about everything with no idea at all.
We don't know the extent of this as of now, we only have a small idea of it
But i guess it's easier to just explode in anger and rant about everything with no idea at all.
1st Course
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Pretty much.
I get that you have your reservations, but it's obvious why they expect it to be an instant hit. #1, it's Zelda. 2, it's open world Zelda. #3, every person that has played it has literally nothing but amazingly glowing praise - from Zelda veterans to those that aren't typically into Zelda games. (myself included, as I spent 3 hours with the game).
Detailed world design... you mean like completely flat and empty Hyrule field where there are like, 6 trees?
Setting aside that obviously biased statement of yours about a detailed world, the world doesn't look barren nor does it look like "content is dynamically generated" beyond things like weather. Everything in the game was specifically placed. Game Informer's recent playing of the game stated that there is always something going on. SOmething happening. SOmething you want to do. That doesn't sound like some "barren" world. It sounds like one full of interesting things happening all the time.I also find it funny when folks complain about "barren worlds" but then praise past Zelda games, when they literally had Hyrule fields that were flat texture, barren worlds. Like, man...
BoTW is going to be an instant hit, not just because of what it promises, but because it's backing it up. Every person who has gone hands on agrees.
There's a surprising amount of people complaining about this, but as always if it wasn't DLC then it wouldn't be in the game as it was intended to be launched and would needed to have been delayed yet again.
Where's that wonderful DLC timeline pic that shows the flow of work from main game to DLC for different employees? (I didn't go through all eleven pages so maybe it's been posted).
Where's that wonderful DLC timeline pic that shows the flow of work from main game to DLC for different employees? (I didn't go through all eleven pages so maybe it's been posted).
JimJamJones
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Bamboo 竹
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People here doesn't freaking know what the hell is this NEW hard more and they are just telling to themselves that it's just Hero Mode.
We have to wait and see what is this mode before judging the damn price, it may be more than just makibg the damage double and worth the price.
We have to wait and see what is this mode before judging the damn price, it may be more than just makibg the damage double and worth the price.
UncleSporky
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Because they haven't said what's in it yet?
Maybe they're not just flipping a switch on the amount of damage you take. Maybe they're creating 2 all new enemy types and reskinning the rest to reflect a harsher world. Maybe they're not adding new enemy types but they're modeling new weapons for the old enemies to wield and making new animations for them to use. Wouldn't that be somewhat of a value-add?
People jumping to conclusions in this thread:
It says new hard mode.Very possible it is the only hard mode but let's find out more.
Having to buy everything does suck, but I think it's a little silly tosay "stuff that should be in the game from the start."
They charge for it: "why is Nintendo making me buy stuff that should be included"
If they didn't charge for it: "why is Nintendo releasing an unfinished game!!"
If they delayed it to put this stuff in from the beginning: "they delayed it! Nintendoomed"
Can't win
If everything you say is true then at the very least Nintendo should be dinged for the awful way they're presenting this. They've never confirmed a hard mode in the base game so of course people are going to rightfully be concerned whether it's being locked off in the DLC. And I don't think anyone would be complaining if Nintendo didn't charge for it and just released it later.
Labrynian Rebel
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Second DLC sounds like what DLC should be
The first one is a difficulty mode, a "feature", and a Cave of Trials (I don't think I've ever completed one of those anyways)
Thinking I should just wait to buy the second DLC, I don't really want a real-world logo t-shirt in-game... I guess it depends on what this vague "feature" is.
Just a black t-shirt with white comic sans text saying: "Inferior Version, Please Understand"
The first one is a difficulty mode, a "feature", and a Cave of Trials (I don't think I've ever completed one of those anyways)
Thinking I should just wait to buy the second DLC, I don't really want a real-world logo t-shirt in-game... I guess it depends on what this vague "feature" is.
Does scanning my Zelda amiibo get me a DLC discount?
Just a black t-shirt with white comic sans text saying: "Inferior Version, Please Understand"
digitalflame
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Well I'll probably cave in and buy it; speaking of which, do we know the functionality for the BotW amiibo?
TheMagician
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Your entire post history is near enough going into Nintendo threads and making negative comments.
You'll be getting one of the biggest and best games of the generation for the standard price.
They're offering optional extras for an extra fee like every other dev.
Memorabilia
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I don't think Nintendo understands the concept of making DLC that people would actually want to buy. I'm hyped as can be about BoTW... But this "expansion pass" sounds like kind of garbage that should be free DLC.
It says new because it's new content being added to the game.
The game is out in just over two weeks and there hasn't been a peep about any sort of hard mode in the base game.
Stuff like that certainly isn't worth any extra money.
Papacheeks
Banned
Yeah
You haven't seen the actual game yet and you are already saying the game is incomplete due to additional content being available a few months from now. Like every other Nintendo thread everyone is jumping over each other to proudly point out how much smarter they are than Nintendo without any facts.
brandonh83
Banned
Hard mode and dungeon should not be part of this. I'm glad there will be more content to look forward to even after finishing the game later down the line, but just like with anybody else that does this it rubs me the wrong way.
Second DLC sounds like what DLC should be
The first one is a difficulty mode, a "feature", and a Cave of Trials (I don't think I've ever completed one of those anyways)
Thinking I should just wait to buy the second DLC, I don't really want a real-world logo t-shirt in-game... I guess it depends on what this vague "feature" is.
Does scanning my Zelda amiibo get me a DLC discount?
You can't just buy the second DLC. You have to buy the whole season pass to get anything.
JohnTinker
Limbaugh Parrot
Hard Mode:
Horses only have three legs.
Horses only have three legs.
OmegaSmash
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Hard Mode is mostly likely Survival Mode.
AjNimajwalHansel
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So much salt in here. I guess if you don't have much money I can understand. I'm pretty confident that this massive game will not disappoint, even if you don't buy the pass. All these anti-DLC warriors railing against "incomplete" games. I don't mind playing this for months, and then suddenly have more reason to play for a paltry amount of money. People make $20 out to be some grand sum of money. Again, if you are really strapped for cash, then that's unfortunate and I feel for you.
Papacheeks
Banned
Link's Horse armor is not part of the DLC pack 3
UncleSporky
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How does one sell out of downloadable content...?
Conkerkid11
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Except for the reasonable people who are both buying the game and looking at this as rather lackluster DLC in terms of content, and disagree with locking away a difficulty mode behind it.
Jesus
If anything Nintendo has the reputation of doing DLC right with the WIiU.
It was a complete game. Was. As much as I love the Witcher 3, I'd argue it isn't a compete game any more. If I'm talking to you and I've beaten the (incredible) dlcs and you haven't, then I've seen geralts story through to the satisfying conclusions and you haven't. You've had an incomplete experience.
JB2448
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Sometimes, you don't appreciate what you had until it's gone. This is likely going to be a trend for their software planning practices going forward.
wild wild rice
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Ehh
thepenguin55
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Sounds like you won't be buying this game then.
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