Nintendo announces Zelda: Breath of the Wild season pass, $20, contents detailed

Which part of the Zelda season pass are you most excited for?


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Jacce

Banned
If there is a GOTY there is absolutely no chance in hell it would get a WiiU release. You won't even be able find WiiU games in stores by the summer likely.
 

Griss

Member
Good of you to compare the zelda season's pass without complete information to the best value season's pass ever created.

I just hope the next time another company announces a season's pass gaf will not be hypocrites and go and get as outraged as this time :)

I have to decide whether I want to be a hypocrite. I never ever buy games with preannounced season passes at launch, and typically wait for a steep discount or goty edition. This is no matter how much I like the game. Broke my heart to skip mortal Kombat X, for example. But I did.

So if I buy Zelda day 1 then I would feel like a hypocrite and a Nintendo fanboy. Not a nice place to be, and not a place I expected to be until this morning.
 
That DLC seems really weak from the brief description. I don't mind Zelda having DLC but it's gotta be more than that.

When I first heard Zelda DLC I hoped it'd be a whole new chapter where you play as Zelda
 

Piscus

Member
I think part of the issue is that people are mentally splitting the cost of the DLC evenly between the two chunks, which makes it seem less appealing. $10 for the summer DLC feels too high for what you get. But if the summer is only like $5 of the total and the holiday DLC is $15, it makes it feel a little more balanced. I get the feeling that that is what NCL's thought process was.
 

OmegaFax

Member
It sounds like a cash grab they should have held off on.

The game's been delayed at least twice, moved to a different system (but still on the Wii U mind you). It isn't something included in any of the SE box sets.

People are already shelling out $300 for the system, another $20-$30 for online play, extra peripherals, and $60 for Zelda.

Maybe, hopefully, it'll be a My Nintendo reward but I won't hold my breath. The only reason I'm saying that is because people in the thread are comparing this somewhat to MK8 DLC, which used to be a Gold Coin reward on My Nintendo for a while.
 

guit3457

Member
They will sell millions of these even all GAF outraged members complaining right now.

GAF is such a funny place sometimes...lol

They do this becauses everyone and his mother are buying DLC's and other shit. Smart move by Nintendo for not leaving money on the table.
 

mario_O

Member
So no other dev can offer DLC unless it tops what Witcher 3 offered ? Ok.

Zelda's DLC is terrible. Pay for a dificulty mode? ugh. The only thing interesting is the new story, but they dont allow you to buy just that pack. And we'll have to wait and see how long that story is, but I bet you it won't be anywhere near The Witcher 3 expansions.
 

Painraze

Unconfirmed Member
I have to decide whether I want to be a hypocrite. I never ever buy games with preannounced season passes at launch, and typically wait for a steep discount or goty edition. This is no matter how much I like the game. Broke my heart to skip mortal Kombat X, for example. But I did.

So if I buy Zelda day 1 then I would feel like a hypocrite and a Nintendo fanboy. Not a nice place to be, and not a place I expected to be until this morning.

It's a rough life man... good luck with your decision.
 

Majukun

Member
Wait... so you are ok with Nintendo asking $20 for promise of good content without proof, but you are not with the poster questioning the value because he does not offer tangible proof?

Really? It seems that you should hold the person asking for more money to a higher standard.

but like any season pass,nobody is forcing anyone to buy it immediately

much like pre-orders, the samrt thing to do is to wait and see what nintendo will put on the plate...the first content comes in the summer,there's no hurry to buy this thing.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
Must be fun in that world where Nintendo exists in a vacuum.

Funnier than living in a world where i have to make up facts about content i dont know anything about. Zelda isnt even a RPG so it will fall short on a lot of things that a series like The Witcher relies on.
Zelda's DLC is terrible. Pay for a dificulty mode? ugh. The only thing interesting is the new story, but they dont allow you to buy just that pack. And we'll have to wait and see how long that story is, but I bet you it won't be anywhere near The Witcher 3 expansions.

Ok.
 

Caelus

Member
How many people crying now will end up buying this pack in 6-9 months? 80%?

Does it matter? People are right to complain now because we know neither the full content of the actual game (they've only shown off like 1-3% of the map) nor the DLC, and they've probably just started working on the DLC.

After people have sunken 100 hours into the game and are aware of how much content it offers and how difficult it is, it's up to them to decide if they want more of that experience or not. Right now there's a dearth of info, so even though I think some people are overreacting, they're not entirely unwarranted.
 
Most like...
People that are not going to buy the game: This is insane, oh God. Expensive.
People that already have the game preordered: Excellent, Day 1. More Zelda, great. Nintendo DLC are awesome, look at MK8 DLC, totally worth it.

Thats a fucking lie and you know it.

I have the game preordered and looks like its going to be one of the best Zeldas ever.

Still, the price of the DLC, what it supossedly has for that price, and no separation of content is fucking bullshit.

Mario Kart 8 DLC was DLC done RIGHT (so right that them trying to sell me the deluxe version now for 60 is a kick on the balls and Im not going to buy it).
Zelda DLC is dlc done WRONG.

For an open adventure game lets do a better comparison. The price of The Witcher 3's season pass, that not only offered us free DLC already, but where two amazingly meaty expansions costed a similar price to the Zelda one (24.99 euros on release, not even counting lots of sales on it). Not only that but you could chose to buy Hearts of Stone and not Blood and Wine and viceversa.
What Nintendo is trying to do here is selling you for 20 euros a season pass with 3 shitty chests as "free", a horrible DLC pack 1 with a difficulty mode that should have been there from the start, and the cave of trials, that last time I checked it was something already in Zelda games without any DLC. The second pack, and the only one that seems of interest, is a good idea, a story that contains a new dungeon. OK. Probably not meaty enough but I would pay up to 10 euros for that alone. The problem? You cant separate it from the rest of crap and you need to buy everything for 20.

Thats EA DLC bullshit, no matter how you spin it. And if I shit on EA for this practices, I assure you I will shit on Nintendo no matter how much I love their games.

The problem is you already assume what's the content without even knowing the concrete details, especially the 2nd DLC. If you find it not worth buying, then you have a freedom not to buy.

Its going to be great if it last more than 20 hours that 1 dungeon and story dlc. But im pretty sure its going to be something between 3 and 5 hours at most. So im going to be more than cautious here and say the price is bullshit, just like what they want to offer us for their online service.
You can post your magic ball pictures all you want and i will be more than happy to be wrong christmas 2017, but you know they ir a big chance im right. Now if then you still feel happy of having payed 20 euros for 5 hours of content at most, then be. I will continue not to buy it.
 

OCD Guy

Member
I fundamentally cannot understand anyone being upset at this announcement.

I think there are a few different types of people that are upset.

Some because they feel things like difficulty should not be paid dlc.

Some that feel some of the dlc is not worth the price e.g cosmetic items

Some that would prefer to have each part of the dlc sold separately

Some that want to shit on Nintendo whatever they do.

Obviously there are many other types of people.

I just hate how it seems that Nintendo appear to be on the same path as others in the gaming industry, and ironically only for the things that I think are terrible, such as the concept of dlc, and paid online. Yes paid dlc is not new ground for Nintendo, but I think they're going to push it real hard with the Switch. Time will tell though....
 

Orin GA

I wish I could hat you to death
Are we gonna raise a stink every time a season pass is mentioned or just the Nintendo ones guys? if you don't feel the DLC is worth the value just don't buy it.
 

Spirited

Mine is pretty and pink
I have to decide whether I want to be a hypocrite. I never ever buy games with preannounced season passes at launch, and typically wait for a steep discount or goty edition. This is no matter how much I like the game. Broke my heart to skip mortal Kombat X, for example. But I did.

So if I buy Zelda day 1 then I would feel like a hypocrite and a Nintendo fanboy. Not a nice place to be, and not a place I expected to be until this morning.

Ah to be honest buying the stuff is not what I meant, what I were talking about is that GAF usually don't get outraged for every announced season's pass even those who cost a lot more and offer almost nothing, batman arkham knight is a good example of just that.

This thread is 16 pages in within an hour.
 

Papacheeks

Banned
You could replace Zelda with about any other example when comparing to Witcher.

You're just trying to start FITES.

What about the expansions to Starcraft 2? Diablo 3?

Dragon age awakening?

GTA 4 Lost and damned? Ballad of gay tony?

Red Dead Redemption Undead nightmare?
 

Oddish1

Member
People that already know the length of the Story and dungeon DLC....

That's a good point. Maybe Nintendo should detail how much content is in their dlc before offering it for sale. That would be reasonable and would reassure fans that the content being sold is fair to the price they're offering. It's such a good idea that Nintendo should have actually done that instead of what they're doing now.
 
Zelda's DLC is terrible. Pay for a dificulty mode? ugh. The only thing interesting is the new story, but they dont allow you to buy just that pack. And we'll have to wait and see how long that story is, but I bet you it won't be anywhere near The Witcher 3 expansions.

Probably be longer than some 60 buck triple A games though
 

Kneefoil

Member
Pack 1 looks rubbish.

If Pack 2's Hard Mode is just a Hero mode from previous Zeldas, it should've been part of the main game already. Same might go for the additional map feature, but that depends on what it will do exactly.

Pack 3 has potential to be good. The story and dungeon better be really good to justify the $20.

I really wish these could be purchased individually. I'll definitely wait until all three packs have been released before purchasing and then read opinions on if its worth the price or not.
 
Alright, gaf, you meet a random person on the street and he asks you to recommend him an expansion pass that will be a good value for his buck. Which one do you recommned: the Zelda one or the Witcher one? You can sense the guy loves both series.

This is pathetic beyond words. The Zelda DLC isn't even out, and it's clear you had no intention of buying the game or DLC anyway. Some people on here have a borderline unhealthy obsession with jumping to angry conclusions, and with being adamant about things they don't want to admit they know little about. It's bizarre.

Please elaborate on how long this original story will take to complete. And the dungeon. I'm curious as I've never met a time traveling troll before.



That's a good point. Maybe Nintendo should detail how much content is in their dlc before offering it for sale. That would be reasonable and would reassure fans that the content being sold is fair to the price they're offering. It's such a good idea that Nintendo should have actually done that instead of what they're doing now.

Where is it for sale? Point me to a link to where I can pay money and buy this RIGHT NOW since apparently it's for sale and no one, but you realized
 
People that already know the length of the Story and dungeon DLC....

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They think they're all

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When in fact they're just being

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Does it matter? People are right to complain now because we know neither the full content of the actual game (they've only shown off like 1-3% of the map) nor the DLC, and they've probably just started working on the DLC.

After people have sunken 100 hours into the game and are aware of how much content it offers and how difficult it is, it's up to them to decide if they want more of that experience or not. Right now there's a dearth of info, so even though I think some people are overreacting, they're not entirely unwarranted.

1/3 of it is already in the game when you Pre order it unlocks it.
 
That's a good point. Maybe Nintendo should detail how much content is in their dlc before offering it for sale. That would be reasonable and would reassure fans that the content being sold is fair to the price they're offering. It's such a good idea that Nintendo should have actually done that instead of what they're doing now.

That's fair, but at the same time, this stuff'll be detailed more fully before it launches. If you're unsure about the value proposition, wait to buy it until they've said more. It's not like the option to purchase goes away.
 

SmokedMeat

Gamer™
How many people crying now will end up buying this pack in 6-9 months? 80%?

As long as those people don't normally lecture others not to buy season passes.

I have no problems with Zelda getting a pass, but I'll wait to see what it amounts to before considering a purchase.
 
I think part of the issue is that people are mentally splitting the cost of the DLC evenly between the two chunks, which makes it seem less appealing. $10 for the summer DLC feels too high for what you get. But if the summer is only like $5 of the total and the holiday DLC is $15, it makes it feel a little more balanced. I get the feeling that that is what NCL's thought process was.

I think it also boils down to Nintendo's choice of wording. People are seeing "hard mode" and "cave of trials" and immediately compare it to what they've seen in past games.
 

Kinsei

Banned
Are we gonna raise a stink everytime a season pass is mentioned or just the nintendo ones guys?

Yep this is just cause it's Nintendo. The complaints have nothing to do with what is actually being offered and the inability to purchase what you want separately. /s
 

LordOcidax

Member
That's a good point. Maybe Nintendo should detail how much content is in their dlc before offering it for sale. That would be reasonable and would reassure fans that the content being sold is fair to the price they're offering. It's such a good idea that Nintendo should have actually done that instead of what they're doing now.
No body do that... Why Nintendo?
 

mindatlarge

Member
Starting when the game launches on 3rd March, players will be able to purchase an Expansion Pass for £17.99/€19.99, granting access to two new sets of downloadable content for the game when they become available later this year. Immediately upon pre-purchase or purchase of the Expansion Pass, three new Treasure Chests will appear in the game’s Great Plateau area. One of these Treasure Chests will contain a shirt with a Nintendo Switch logo which Link can wear during his adventure, exclusive to the Expansion Pass. The other two Treasure Chests will deliver useful items.
Wonder if one of those chests will contain a green tunic?
 

BGBW

Maturity, bitches.
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$25 - The Witcher 3 Season Pass, made by developers who have only made 3 AAA games in their short history.
Contains:
-Hearts of Stone, a story expansion that will take around 10 hours to complete and has multiple endings, with 8 main missions, 8 side missions and 9 treasure hunts
-Blood and Wine, a story expansion set in a brand new huge map which will take around 25 hours to complete and has multiple endings, with 16 main quests, 40 side quests, 5 witcher contracts and 20 treasure hunts
In total: around 35-40 hours of game time

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$20 - Breath of the Wild Expansion Pass, made by veteran developers who have been making games for more than 25 years
Contains:
- 3 new treasure chests (holy shit!!!)
- a new difficulty mode, a new story, and a new dungeon
- additional challenges

Alright, gaf, you meet a random person on the street and he asks you to recommend him an expansion pass that will be a good value for his buck. Which one do you recommned: the Zelda one or the Witcher one? You can sense the guy loves both series.

All the fact about one including hours vs some initial facts of another.

My guess is the random person would give me a Glagow Kiss and tell me to take my inane ramblings elsewhere.
 
The problem is you already assume what's the content without even knowing the concrete details, especially the 2nd DLC. If you find it not worth buying, then you have a freedom not to buy.

Did already know how big is this? link to the trailer please....


I dont. But if it's as big as a regular Zelda dungeon bit... that's rather small. Yes, I have the freedom to not buy it. Can't I express my disappointement ? Or should these threads should only be "if you don't like, dont talk, lets us rejoice between us" ?
 

ngower

Member
Very silly announcement either way. You either (a) announce the full content o the expansion pass, which seems sparse, or you (b) undersell what's in it, and make people think there's not much content in it.

Nintendo need some kind of Direct to answer a lot of the lingering questions and tease a few more games prior to E3. The lack of games paired with Nintendo's questionable decision-making over the last month or so is making me seriously consider cancelling my Switch pre-order and waiting until the holidays.
 

oti

Banned
Pack 1 looks rubbish.

If Pack 2's Hard Mode is just a Hero mode from previous Zeldas, it should've been part of the main game already. Same might go for the additional map feature, but that depends on what it will do exactly.

Pack 3 has potential to be good. The story and dungeon better be really good to justify the $20.

I really wish these could be purchased individually. I'll definitely wait until all three packs have been released before purchasing and then read opinions on if its worth the price or not.

Yup. If they screw this up whatever plans they have for DLC on Switch would be in danger. This is Zelda. It has to be on point.
 

Zen Aku

Member
Look your argument is fine, but you gonna hold every game to come out withh dlc from now on against withcer 3? If so please start an OT and update it. Or judge each dlc based on its own merits and what it adds to the game.

For a lot of folks they couldn't even get far enough in to the witcher to make dlc worth their time. So where's the value there?

Yeah I get it, you want there to be higher standards and thats good, but if your gonna walk this path own it and do it for every season pass announced.

1. Umm well yeah, do you think when Samsung release another Galaxy phone, that people won't compared it to whatever the newest latest phone is? It's inevitable, competition and comparison is what keep standards up. Same thing with video games.

2. That's a terrible example, so because people didn't finish the game for whatever reason... It's somehow the season pass fault? I'm not sure how that logic works.

3. This is also a silly argument to make. I really hope I don't have to explain to you why. You expect him to make an official thread and literally compare every upcoming season pass to the Witcher 3's?
 

Turrican3

Member
Good of you to compare the zelda season's pass without complete information to the best value season's pass ever created
NSMBU and Mario Kart 8 DLCs were quite good value for money IMHO.

I think I'll judge this one when there's enough details available.
 

Orin GA

I wish I could hat you to death
Yep this is just cause it's Nintendo. The complaints have nothing to do with what is actually being offered and the inability to purchase what you want separately. /s

Except no one knows the exact details of the DLC yet?
 
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