NYT: Trump Campaign Aides Had Repeated Contacts With Russian Intelligence

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Gutek said:
CNN just confirmed that Obama knew too.
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We already 100% knew that Obama had the full evidence from the IC investigations going around at the time. His hands were tied with politics. It looked like Hillary had it and had he jumped in and it exploded in his phase losing her a 'winning' election, that would be a horrendous situation.
 
Meanwhile conservatives who totally aren't nazis on twitter keep making "haha the russians did it is such a meme" posts on twitter. Even my own dad, who's more than smart enough to see the clear ties to russia and suspicious bullshit from trump. They know, they just don't care.

Will having it exposed change their tune? If it does, it'll only be because they're scared, not outraged.
 
BronsonLee said:
See now THAT is interesting because he's probably gonna have to explain why he didn't say shit at some point

Also lol at NYT basically slowly nudging the door open and CNN just kicking the whole thing down
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We know why Obama didn't talk. He didn't want to do something that would be seen as delegitimizing the election process, especially when it looked a lot like Hilary would win
 
Gutek said:
CNN just confirmed that Obama knew too.
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Ummm what? For how long?
Aaronrules380 said:
We know why Obama didn't talk. He didn't want to do something that would be seen as delegitimizing the election process, especially when it looked a lot like Hilary would win
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Then, what, no
How do you sit on information worrying about what it would look like.....nah see optics shouldn't be more important than a fair election.
 
Lights and Waves said:
Leak 👏🏼 The 👏🏼 Pee 👏🏼 Tapes 👏🏼
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If they really exist, they are deep in Russian hands... They are leverage for Russia, so I don't see them playing their trump card just yet. I imagine the only way they'll leak before that is if somebody manages to make copies or smuggle them out. I'm sure there are a million journalists that want them.
 
Vestal said:
For all those saying.. Oh we would still get Pence.. Yeah that wouldn't matter anymore. It could be a crippled Presidency even with both houses of congress. Public perception of the entire Presidency would be in the toilet, and nothing would happen over the next two years until after the midterms. GOP would get FUCKED in 2018 if Impeachment actually happens, between disillusioned Trump voters and pitchfork wielding Democrats.

Congress right now is holding out hope that all of this will die down, they know that if they have to take action it will be a deathblow to the entire Republican Party.
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Sooner or later, they're gonna have no other choice but to.

The IC, the media, & the Democrats are not gonna let up on them.
 
AusRoachman said:
Has there even been a re-election done in us history ? Is there any law that would allow it ?
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constitutional amendment

it might have enough popular support if enough of the country is opposed to someone who nobody voted for serving almost an entire term, but the process is messed up and requires already elected representatives to push it through
 
MIMIC said:
Am I dumb or didn't we already know this? With all these Russian ties, I though this was something that had been reported on already.
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We didn't know that the FBI has call logs and transcripts. That changes things considerably.

But hey let's check in with other parts of the Trump Administration:

What's Omarosa up to? ‘This is ... Nixonian:’ Reporter was taped by White House in heated exchange

...oh how are things doing at State then?

@rebeccaballhaus
Ambassadorships remain unfilled amid standoff between Priebus and Tillerson
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Well... shit.
 
I guess Hillary is vindicated after everyone was complaining about her trying to restart the Cold War with her "conspiracies." She was warning us all along.
 
BronsonLee said:
See now THAT is interesting because he's probably gonna have to explain why he didn't say shit at some point

Also lol at NYT basically slowly nudging the door open and CNN just kicking the whole thing down
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He didn't say shit because it would look bad in his part, and he probably knew this was going to come out relatively quickly into Trump's presidency. Trump made a lot of enemies with his bullshit condemning intelligence agencies.
 
BronsonLee said:
See now THAT is interesting because he's probably gonna have to explain why he didn't say shit at some point

Also lol at NYT basically slowly nudging the door open and CNN just kicking the whole thing down
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This was a coordinated effort. CNN had someone from NYT ready to speak immediately.
 
I am honestly a little nervous about backing this administration into a corner... they seem very volatile.

Very glad this is all coming out of course.
 
Biggest-Geek-Ever said:
If Trump is impeached and Pence takes his place, do we have a single clue as to whether he would choose to replace cabinet positions?
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Would be telling if he replaced someone like Tillerson with his connections with Russia.

My guess it any Russian tainted picks would be on the table, unless of course Pence knew about all of this.
 
BronsonLee said:
See now THAT is interesting because he's probably gonna have to explain why he didn't say shit at some point

Also lol at NYT basically slowly nudging the door open and CNN just kicking the whole thing down
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He thought it was in the tank for Hillary, and he didn't want to look like a partisan. fml
 
Gutek said:
CNN just confirmed that Obama knew too.
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No wonder he's all smiles in the islands. He knew the other shoe was getting ready to drop.

You know people in Trump's inner circle are scrambling. Treason is no fucking joke.
 
Ogodei said:
No provision for that in the constitution. We're stuck with the line-of-succession as is.

The best option here would be for Trump to stay on but be so paralyzed by scandal that he's unable to achieve anything. Kind of a John Quincy Adams situation where he was lame-ducked from the start, then thrashed in the election rematch of 1828.
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I feared this response :/ I'd love for a re-election, but I don't know what that would take.
 
Spiral Insanity said:
This will just go away. Nothing will happen. Nobody will do anything.
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You mean like the other times this has "gone away" with the last articles about the IC and this issue?

You mean like the other time "nothing happened" when freaking Flynn RESIGNED?!?

You mean like the other time "nobody will do anything" how the IC is still going at this like the wildfire that it is?!?

Stop telling people to lie down and cry.
 
yami4ct said:
We already 100% knew that Obama had the full evidence from the IC investigations going around at the time. His hands were tied with politics. It looked like Hillary had it and had he jumped in and it exploded in his phase losing her a 'winning' election, that would be a horrendous situation.
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It's not just the scenario where Hilary lost a winning election, it was also that if he did that and she won, he'd probably get a lot of heat and accusations that he was rigging the elections. And given a big problem that existed with the lack of faith in our political system that led to the events of this election, that could have been catastrophic
 
BronsonLee said:
See now THAT is interesting because he's probably gonna have to explain why he didn't say shit at some point

Also lol at NYT basically slowly nudging the door open and CNN just kicking the whole thing down
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Reminds me of how LBJ knew Nixon tampered with the Vietnam peace agreement and didn't say anything because he wanted to protect the sanctity of the election.
 
Jesus. Somewhere, John le Carre is tossing out his current manuscript in the trash, going 'fuck it, why bother'. On the one hand, this is all extremely disturbing. On the other hand, someone's going to be winning an Emmy for a ten part mini-series about the Orange Siberian Candidate someday.
 
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