Jonneh3003
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They do seem to be doing over time since the Switch was revealed.
Unreal Engine 4.15 update adds support for Nintendo Switch
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I see, thanks!
Claude Augario
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Mihael Mello Keehl
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And yooka laylee I believe
Yeah the thing to clarify for people who seem confused. UE4 support has been in for awhile it just was not accessible for everyone. It required specific SDK. This is unreal opening up Switch access to the wider community who while they may not have devkit access due to Nintendo doing its thing right now can at least start tinkering
lwilliams3
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Hmm. Does this mean that a wider community outside of NDA'ed devs can now get more info on Switch development?
Skittzo0413
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That's what I'm wondering. Like, if I take one of my (barely existent) projects and make a Switch build and then compare that to a PS4 build, will that give us any information? I'm thinking no, not without a devkit, but maybe someone else might know?
ShadowFox08
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Bring them fp16 gflopss!! YEAHHH!
manzoman96
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Best engine?
lwilliams3
Member
I see that this was posted in Unreal's 4.15 Release Notes:
"Platform-specific release notes for PS4, XBoxOne, and Switch are available in the forums and UDN for approved console developers."
Perhaps some approved console developer can check that out and see is there is something interesting there.
"Platform-specific release notes for PS4, XBoxOne, and Switch are available in the forums and UDN for approved console developers."
Perhaps some approved console developer can check that out and see is there is something interesting there.
Hmmm that could be juicey.
UE3
The Switch stuff is under NDA which is why they specify approved developers can see them. When Nintendo opens up their developer platform to the public for switch then Unreal may open up further.
Wait, are you sure about that? For it to be closer to XB1 than Wii U, it would have to be about 750+ GFLOPS.
You should check it Microsoft threads.
LordOcidax
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Agree, every Switch thread is full of shitposting without any consequence. That shit needs to stop.
lwilliams3
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That is disappointing, but that makes sense. I had doubts that getting new information will be that simple
There are several factors to look into when comparing the GFLOPS number with the Switch.
1) There is a FLOP efficiency difference between the GCN cores that the PS4/XB1 has and NVidia's cores. I believe it is beyond a 33% difference.
2) The Switch's GPU has a 2x FP16 feature that can help narrow the powerlevel gap to the XB1 with proper optimization. If Switch's GPU is clocked in at Eurogamer's clockspeed with 393 GFLOPS, using mixed precision with 70% of the code using FP16 would effectively put the performance at 668.1 GFLOPS.
With heavy use of FP16, the Switch performance may be able to reach beyond 50% of the XB1. UE4 already heavily takes advantage of FP16 for mobile development, so the engine for the Switch will be a good fit.
tkscz
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It was known that UE4 was running on Switch sense December. We even had a thread where we found that during docked mode, most graphic settings are set to high (3). Wait a minute, you posted in that thread.
Broken Hope
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Yet the console still can't do Mario Kart 8 in 4 player at 60fps, or do Zelda at anything better than 900P yet you're claiming that's that much faster than the Wii U.
Your numbers don't match the performance we are seeing from the console.
tkscz
Member
What we got from the previous thread
M3d10n said:
It's measure 0 to 3 with 0 being low, 1 being med, 2 being high and 3 being epic.
Yeah, it can only do 4 players splitscreen @1080p 30fps. A pity.
How many 4 players 1080p 30fps, let alone 60fps, on other consoles?
Skittzo0413
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The console also, ya know, is not even out yet. Switch has zero games, sad!
But seriously, this is UE4 support for all UE4 devs, rather than just the ones with SDKs or devkits.
frankie_baby
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Rushed First generation switch ports of mature generation Wii U games
lwilliams3
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Launch and first year games rarely do. I doubt Zelda, in particular, is using the full power of the system effectively compared to latter titles.
I remember that. That was a good thread, but I was hoping if we can find more.
El Sabroso
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that's amazing if true, SFV runs almost all settings in mid for PS4 version, AO for some reason draws at half the resolution of the game, and some effects like little motion blur effects are present in console despite being absent in mid settings on pc, but is not as a heavy motion blur like the present in high settings for pc version
Skittzo0413
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I think it would also be the first FPS on Switch to begin with. May as well be the first!
Sammy Samusu
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Iconic update.
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Rösti
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Unreal Engine 4 support is great. The engine is easy to work with and quite deep so you have many options in how you want your game to operate. I am not particularly fond of the default lighting settings however, they work in my opinion only for a few genres/artstyles. But it's no big deal really considering it's not too difficult to customize.
It's going to be exciting to see how developers utilize the engine.
It's going to be exciting to see how developers utilize the engine.
Lol, I was literally going to comment on this very matter. I only just scanned the first 2 pages (barrin your post on page 3), and I'm already here sitting here with the most bewildered look on my face. Just...wow!
I mean, how can people frequent this forum so often and still be this damn cluless about the things they are so fervently vocal about? Good gosh!
If you've seen some of the decisions they've made over the past several years, yeah, some of them actually do. I've just grown to accept this.
Yep.
Hi there. It seems that the Switch is the first Nintendo console you've been interested in since the GameCube / ever. As such, it's my unfortunate obligation to tell you that this shit will never stop. EVER. And you should stop hoping for it to. It hasn't changed in over 10 years, it's not going to change now.
I've seen Saran wrap that's less transparent than you.
Heck, well that explains a lot! I simply assumed these guys were all just plain f#&@ing stupid.
Lol, seriously tho, thanks for sharing that interesting bit.
I feel more... ummm....informed! *Ka'ching!*
FWIW, the Switch (earlier code name "NX") had a rumor going that UE4 and Unity support would be available to developers.
That rumor was more than a year ago now (February 14, 2016), and has since then been confirmed true, so about those claims that "Nintendo doesn't care" and so on, here's the link:
http://gonintendo.com/stories/252090-rumor-more-nx-dev-kit-talk-unity-unreal-engine-4-support-inclu
That rumor was more than a year ago now (February 14, 2016), and has since then been confirmed true, so about those claims that "Nintendo doesn't care" and so on, here's the link:
http://gonintendo.com/stories/252090-rumor-more-nx-dev-kit-talk-unity-unreal-engine-4-support-inclu
Angel Whispers
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It's been well-known since the Switch reveal in October, although there were rumours before then, and Dragon Quest XI was a giveaway...
. Epic confirmed it on the same day.Did you sign a contract with a company to shit up every Switch thread? Just curious.
Why does this makes me feel there's absolutely nothing between AAA and indie games.
Broken Hope
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If the machine really was 2-4 times the power of the Wii U when docked, rushed or not we'd be seeing bigger performance increases than we are seeing.
Skittzo0413
Member
MK8 going from 720p 59FPS to 1080p 60fps is over a 2.25x increase in GPU power alone. We know it has 3.25x as much RAM available for games too.
MK8 is still 30 FPS at 4 players, but you do realise that the game ran at 720p on the Wii U right?
It's 1080p60FPS 1/2 players, 1080p30FPS 3/4 players on Switch, vs 720p60FPS 1/2 players, 720p30FPS 3/4 players on Wii U.
I know some people claim MK8 runs at 1080p on Wii U, but that's a lie. It's 1280x720.
Gotdatmoney
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If it is what was on that leaked spec sheet it is minimally 2x stronger than the WiiU docked without accounting for anything atchitecture wise. The flops are more than double and the CPU is just flat out better. Dunno what to tell ya man.
Woudnt it be an NDA for that stuff?
Words such as "much", "a lot" etc are relative. MK got a boost from 720p to 1080p, and Zelda got a solid performance and draw distance boost in addition to increased resolution.
These are also extremely highly optimised ground up Wii U games, the Switch versions are probably nowhere near as adapted to the hardware as the Wii U versions.
Nobody is saying its a PS3 to PS4 increase in hardware, but its still a solid upgrade.
Guess that ps4 is less than 4x stronger than ps3 then, seeing how it can't even manage to run TLOU in 1080p 60fps, and needs shit textures to target that frame rate
Yeah, the fact that Switch has a game which doesn't run at 1080p/60fps in four-player split screen definitely means it's underpowered compared to PS4 and XBO, what with all the 1080p/60fps four-player split screen games they have. Oh, wait...
Edit: As I'm on the top of the page I should probably be a bit more constructive with my post. It's good to see Switch support officially integrated into UE4. As others have said, there's obviously been some kind of fork for Switch devs up to this point, but now that it's properly integrated into the standard build of the engine it should hopefully encourage some more devs who use UE4 (particularly indies) to look into Switch support for their games.