17-minute-long IGN look at Mass Effect Andromeda (Peebee Loyalty Mission SPOILERS)
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Zombie James
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I can only imagine a customized face would animate worse.
ThEoRy...
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Love it or hate it, it looks like Mass Effect to me. While the difficulty was tuned down and the player seemed to be inexperienced I'm pretty sure I'll have a good time with combat. The story however is what drives the combat. I mean what's the point of fighting, what are we fighting for? The story has to keep you engaged. I don't want to spoil anything so I'm trying not to look at story focused media but that will make or break my opinion on the game. A shitty animation here or facial expression there isn't going to deter me.
SirPinkyNose
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Can't understand the animation complaints. I mean Garrus's loyalty mission on PC has that huge visual glitch toward the end which still exist today and a lot of people still praise that game as the best of the series.
What disappointed me in this game play tho is the lack of dialog wheel.
What disappointed me in this game play tho is the lack of dialog wheel.
LegalEagleMike
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I thought I heard one or two. Then again it is Peebee's loyalty mission so it makes sense that she had the majority of the dialogue.
mercenar1e
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Just saw this on Tumblr
her face is frozen too. great job Bioware lol
Except here it seems like SAM has the most dialogue.
plushyp
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What the.... the Ryder's have force powers?!Just saw this on Tumblr
Crimson_Echidna
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But that was half the fun.
I feel like even if it does come out really good, there will me a very loud vocal minority trash talking for years to come.
LegalEagleMike
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Enemies are everywhere!
Wait for the first Breath of the Wild review that's lower than 9/10.
Why does everything I see from this game make me more worried about it than I was before. That looked awful. Over reliance on scanning things, awful dialogue, horrible animations, incredibly boring looking gameplay. I remember being so excited for the next Mass Effect game when they first revealed it was in development but every single they have shown relating to this game has either underwhelmed or created concern. What the hell is going on with this game? It should be an easy sell and yet it consistently fails to do so.
After the 1-2 punch of Mass Effect 3 and Dragon Quest Inquisition, I've been skeptical of Andromeda's quality for a while.
This video doesn't inspire much confidence. I remember a comment from a Bioware rep a while back that facial animation is something they touch up last, so where does that leave the teammate AI, the mission design and the combat?
Bioware needs to stop trying to write 'quirky' characters at this point. Sera in Dragon Age: Inquisition was absolute trash and PeeBee seems to be following suit. The only quirky character I've ever enjoyed by them was Mordin and he was more insane than whatever brand of Tumblr-inspired quirk they seem to be aiming for nowadays.
This video doesn't inspire much confidence. I remember a comment from a Bioware rep a while back that facial animation is something they touch up last, so where does that leave the teammate AI, the mission design and the combat?
Bioware needs to stop trying to write 'quirky' characters at this point. Sera in Dragon Age: Inquisition was absolute trash and PeeBee seems to be following suit. The only quirky character I've ever enjoyed by them was Mordin and he was more insane than whatever brand of Tumblr-inspired quirk they seem to be aiming for nowadays.
Javik is great too, and he's a mere DLC character. There's even a lack of cool/badass character like Zaeed and Kasumi in this which I thought would've been easier to write than quirky, but I guess I was wrong.
I'll take your word for it since I picked up Mass Effect 3 used several months after release just because I wanted closure and so I didn't want to spend more money than I had on the game for an additional character.
Ignoring the PS3 version's performance which was atrocious, some portions of the game were actually decent, though the ending completely ruined it.
The main problem I see with Andromeda is a lack of evolution. More Mass Effect isn't want people needed after a trilogy. A new galaxy with new gameplay and characters could've been great but instead we're just getting a Shepard 2.0 adventuring with his facial cramp-suffering sister.
Durrzerker
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I thought he's more like a Krogan monk considering how he doesn't even talk in this video.
Sera was literally the only reason I stuck with that game for as long as I did. Not only did her voice actor knock it out of the park, she was also important for the medium - it felt incredibly refreshing to have a female party member (and a major character in general) who isn't designed to look "bangable" by video game nerd standards.
tearsintherain
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Yeah I'm really on the fence at this point, these videos are actively discouraging me from buying the game.
I'd recommend doing what I did: pre order at best buy for in store pickup (I did it during the $25 visa checkout promo so it made it an insanely great deal). I have an xbox and will be playing 10 hours via EA Access like 5 or 7 days before release. If it turns out to be as janky and terrible as the vibe I'm getting is, can easily cancel your pre order and you get charged nothing.
Definitely not a game you wanna be buying digitally at this point.
Apoleptica
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Within the first minute of gameplay: "maybe there's a console buried here", proceeds to scan rock and find a console inside... Man I hope the rest of the game isn't this laughable and harebrained, the main character is basically telling us what to do as if it were some episode of Dora the Explorer.
he who dwells
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This looked boring as hell, and Peebee sounds annoying af.
Loved the original trilogy, but I'm still skeptical.
Everything about this just looks horrible. I know it is slowed down and all but god damn the animations are just garbage. Her hand not touching his face isn't even the worst part about it, just look at her face. Jesus.
Edit: I still see that they're still using some pre-rendered scenes which looks nothing like the game.
Loved the original trilogy, but I'm still skeptical.
Just saw this on Tumblr
Everything about this just looks horrible. I know it is slowed down and all but god damn the animations are just garbage. Her hand not touching his face isn't even the worst part about it, just look at her face. Jesus.
Edit: I still see that they're still using some pre-rendered scenes which looks nothing like the game.
enixbelmont
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I feel like Aveline is a far, far better example of a well written female character within the same series - and literally not a romance option. People shit all over DA2 for many good reasons but Varric and Aveline are the two best parts of that game. Just my opinion, of course, the "quirky" character usually grates for me.
I WILL DESTROY YOU!
*sensually* I know you feel this
Durrzerker
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I think that Sera was written well and I say this as someone who had a character that wasn't BFFs with her - they were friendly, however. In fact, she said some not-nice things to my Inquisitor, but I don't condemn her as a character for it. She is disagreeable to the player in a lot of cases judging by the reaction she gets, she is not easily convinced, she's young and immature, but it was real because sometimes people are that way. Just because a game allows you to butter up your companions doesn't means they should all bow to you or make it easy. I think Sera was a very good testament to that. I also appreciated the fact that she showed some growth two years later in Trespasser.
In these short clips they release of Peebee we get only a sense of her character, but I'm sure in-game she has much more going on. "Quirkiness" or rather being light-hearted isn't a bad thing as it has always been in BioWare games in some form or another. Besides, this is a relatively young group of people and a new starting point. It will be interesting to see potential character growth in this game and other potential ME:A-based games after they have "seen some shit" as it were.
Alpha Centauri
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ok i laughed
I think the main issue is that it's the uncanny valley. Catwoman in Injustice 2 has the same issue to me.
PB has a actual person's face (or a terribly made one) plastered on a video game character model and the problem is just exacerbated by her skin being blue.
Apart from Sarah Ryder's insanely derpy "shake" animation in the start, the games looking alright so far, even if this mission felt extremely linear.
Very beautiful in motion and I must say combat looks extremely fluid and diverse and gives me good vibes.
My mine gripe was Sarah's voice acting, it was just awful, cheesy and practically Satruday cartoon morning-esque. I wanted to play as female for my first run but I can't imagine putting myself through 20+ hours of that voice.
I dunno, something seems a little off with Andromeda but I'm really hoping it all comes together great for the final experience.
Very beautiful in motion and I must say combat looks extremely fluid and diverse and gives me good vibes.
My mine gripe was Sarah's voice acting, it was just awful, cheesy and practically Satruday cartoon morning-esque. I wanted to play as female for my first run but I can't imagine putting myself through 20+ hours of that voice.
I dunno, something seems a little off with Andromeda but I'm really hoping it all comes together great for the final experience.
TheUnsunghero26
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Seeing a lot of people complain about Sarah's voice, but I was under the impression that it was PeeBee that was doing most of the talking throughout the mission. Maybe some people are getting the two confused? Maybe I'm getting them confused...
Im_So_Pringles
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Me: "Eh, I'll give Peebee a chance. We haven't heard much of her dialogue yet and they might actually pull off a quirky character like her."
*watches this video*
Me: "Fucking Goddamn fuck."
*watches this video*
Me: "Fucking Goddamn fuck."
Different strokes and all that. I can appreciate what Sera did by not looking like a 10/10 model or following your character around agreeing with everything they say like some party members do, but she just irritated me in other ways.
There's a real thin line between being quirky and fun and coming across as obnoxious. When a character falls on the wrong side of a someone's personal judgement they're going to end up sat on the sidelines in favor of less divisive party members like Sera did for my DA:I playthrough.
Maybe I'm in the minority on PeeBee, but a brief readthrough of this thread leaves me to believe otherwise. I'm not seeing a whole lot of praise for PeeBee as a character. Maybe she'll be more interesting or developed in the final game, but Bioware increasingly seem to come up with surface-level concepts for characters and stop there.
No, you're right. It is Peebee who is making a lot of the comments in this mission (i.e. "hey there little guy"). Sara's voice is deeper and she only says things like "let's push on" in this video.
Yabberwocky
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Yeah, I thought it was Sara at first, and then went the voice went 'sweet!' and I realized that it was PeeBee.
AWizardDidIt
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Sera is a wildly divisive character but she's in no way a badly written one. And people who write her off as 'randum tumblr garbage' have fundamentally misread her as a character. That said, she's written to be difficult to deal with and I sorta get how some people might not like her or understand her. Inquisition had a number of really polarizing npcs which given how the player is offered 9 and only needs 3 really, makes me feel like Bioware wanted to reach toward a few extremes in personalities and present some characters that some portion of players might really strongly identify with even if some other portion of players might despise. I think that speaks to their overall strength and confidence at character writing personally which is probably Inquisition's strongest element however else people feel about it.
bluecapsule
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Yikes, awful animations and terrible clipping. Every time Bioware releases a new game, I always think "this is the one where it all comes together and it won't be janky." I really hope this game finally gets it right.
Well, resident Character Extraordinaire Patrick Weekes was the writer on Inquisition. So you can bank on some solid character work.