Since I'm scum reading Verelios, I wouldn't mind switching. Will not vote for Faddy.
I wasn't being entirely serious, see the next page
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Since I'm scum reading Verelios, I wouldn't mind switching. Will not vote for Faddy.
I wasn't being entirely serious, see the next page
I knew that the swamped / crab situation wad still was a thing but I did not get the feeling that she could be lynched today, hence my comment on saying that I did not agree on that claim.
The claim is fine for the moment ,even thought she should not have said if she used he ability on N1. But who knows maybe she lied and is still able to do it.
Blargonaut
Banned
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
I would be fine with either a CCS or Verelios lynch today.
I believe Swamped's claim. I am starting to lean town on her, but ultimately I think my final verdict will depend on Crab's flip, if and when that happens.
I believe Swamped's claim. I am starting to lean town on her, but ultimately I think my final verdict will depend on Crab's flip, if and when that happens.
I don't mind a Verelios lynch. I don't see that much in his posts, got a better feel about his d1 compared to d2. I could see the Kalor vote being a scum vote, looking to be outside of the main lynches to confuse the vote record. I don't like the balance between questions and opinions in his posts, he tosses a fair amount of questions around what could be scum doing some easy contributions.
This could be a scum joke, a "look at me the townie, knowing better than you who to lynch".
But what pushes him to over the vote barrier is that he, as far as I can see, has not followed through on his day one scum reads. I don't think he has done any real pressuring, no real followup about his reads. I see no scum hunting.
VOTE: Verelios
This could be a scum joke, a "look at me the townie, knowing better than you who to lynch".
But what pushes him to over the vote barrier is that he, as far as I can see, has not followed through on his day one scum reads. I don't think he has done any real pressuring, no real followup about his reads. I see no scum hunting.
VOTE: Verelios
Blargonaut
Banned
You know, it's funny how you Role-claimed, Swamped, when Crab v. Burbeting was the hot topic du Jour at 3 votes tete a tete 3 votes, to your... 2
What a lack of pressure, hmm?
but I digress
VOTE: Crab
Now I, too, wonder who would be willing to entertain you
aha
What a lack of pressure, hmm?
but I digress
VOTE: Crab
Now I, too, wonder who would be willing to entertain you
aha
acohrs has been quite the ghost I feel. I get nothing out of his posts. He is just there, mostly buddying up with CCS.
TWE too has been rather absent but unlike acorns, he's said some things that I found odd. Wouldn't mind lynching him.
LP and Kalor both show up every now and then and offer a tiny bit of their thoughts. Not enough content / nothing strange enough to make any judgement.
TWE too has been rather absent but unlike acorns, he's said some things that I found odd. Wouldn't mind lynching him.
LP and Kalor both show up every now and then and offer a tiny bit of their thoughts. Not enough content / nothing strange enough to make any judgement.
They're all coasters (not that I have been much better with my activity at this point). Scum usually benefit from sitting in the background.
I find TWE's vote on Stanley pretty damn odd.
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Deleted member 231381
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Bullshit. Why is it Swamped vs. Crab? We have hours left before deadline. squidy went from 1 vote to Lynch in like 40 minutes yesterday. The game is still incredibly fluid. Why are you constructing two false choices that nobody is necessarily committed to yet? Why are you refusing discussion of Verelios or Faddy?
I may be sitting, but I'm sitting in the foreground I'll have you know!
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Midterms :/
Usually I'm way more involved...then again every single time I've played except twice (?) I've been scum. So maybe that's part of it?
I'll post some insightful things, or at least look around a bit more at allegations and shot in about an hour.
Usually I'm way more involved...then again every single time I've played except twice (?) I've been scum. So maybe that's part of it?
I'll post some insightful things, or at least look around a bit more at allegations and shot in about an hour.
And you don't see the problem with this?
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Deleted member 231381
Unconfirmed Member
There's a significant difference between 40 minutes and 6 hours. The point is that things can change an enormous amount in those 40 minutes let alone this 6 hours. nin trying to declare this Swamped vs. Crab day is just scummy as you get.
I don't know he would do that instead of just voting (although he did that after anyway), but it's not as bad since he wasn't trying to create links between himself and other specific players.
Can you explain the bolded part to me.
flatearthpandas
Member
Don't like Burb right now. Minor play coaching is not really better than theorizing and that's all I'm seeing. No real content, just this is a bad play because x. So disingenuous. Still feel worse about acorns. Going in there but at this hour I'm unlikely to make day end as much as i love that chaos.
I am not refusing it crab, i just made my choice.
Day 2 Votes
bronx-man (0)
sorian 1372 (1431)
crab 1490 (1675)
wherearemahdragonz 1536 (1811)
kalor (1)
burbeting 1384 (1399)
burbeting 2009
crab (5)
faddy 1426 (1519)
bronx-man 1452
swamped 1454
nin1000 1467 (1597)
faddy 1519
ccs 1520 (1796)
blargonaut 2007
nin1000 2010
swamped (2)
sorian 1431 (1924)
lone_prodigy 1624 (1867)
kawl_usc 1744
blargonaut 1746 (1802)
ccs 1796 (1799)
*splinter 1936
lone_prodigy (0)
acohrs 1482 (1916)
stanleypalmtree (1)
theworthyedge 1703
faddy (1)
crab 1718 (1991)
franconp 1914
verelios (2)
ccs 1799 (1851)
crab 1991
kyanrute 2005
ccs (2)
wherearemahdragonz 1811
stanleypalmtree 1913
kyanrute (0)
gorlak 1832 (1885)
wherearemahdragonz (1)
ccs 1851
burbeting (2)
lone_prodigy 1867
kalor 1876
blargonaut 1901 (2007)
acohrs (1)
flatearthpandas 1895
blargonaut (1)
sorian 1924
Majority is 12.
bronx-man (0)
kalor (1)
burbeting 2009
crab (5)
bronx-man 1452
swamped 1454
faddy 1519
blargonaut 2007
nin1000 2010
swamped (2)
kawl_usc 1744
*splinter 1936
lone_prodigy (0)
stanleypalmtree (1)
theworthyedge 1703
faddy (1)
franconp 1914
verelios (2)
crab 1991
kyanrute 2005
ccs (2)
wherearemahdragonz 1811
stanleypalmtree 1913
kyanrute (0)
wherearemahdragonz (1)
ccs 1851
burbeting (2)
lone_prodigy 1867
kalor 1876
acohrs (1)
flatearthpandas 1895
blargonaut (1)
sorian 1924
Majority is 12.
flatearthpandas
Member
Both of these just screamed scum to me. So fucking fake. Scum doesn't target n1 because of sick reads. They target middle ground active that no one is likely to protect or low key power role claims that they think most people missed. This is the advantage of Scum in that only one needs to notice something for all of scum to know about it. Positing theories on d1 nk is a waste of everyone's time. Yes, it's not uncommon for people to post dumb theories on d1nk and I'm certainly not saying acorns is a player i expect to be more savvy but his reasoning send so fake all my alarm bells started screaming.
He does no favours whatsoever with the follow-up. Hey, we ml'd yesterday, so probably none of our suspicions yesterday were any good. What in the fuck. So fake. So goddamn fake. Works or a faker. There's been suspicions over the acorn ccs pairing and i really don't have any feelings about that but if we really think there's scum on the i put all my money on acorns. Dude is not playing for real. Not total shit posting. Trying to phone in some town points but didn't realize that he doesn't know how to use the phone. "Hello, fellow students. It's me, a perfectly normal student with normal student reactions."
I don't like it either, but you know there is a difference between what Crab did and what you did?
Crab offered 2 targets he wants to lynch and said he would be willing to vote either of them. That's similar to give scum reads.
You tied your vote to other players vote. You said that you voted squidy because Natiko did it. You let other people decide how you vote.
There's a slight difference between both actions.
I don't like what Crab did, and he lost town point in my end, but I disliked yours even more.
I'm not feeling good about this post. It looks really fake. It's just making weak excuses based on his own meta: "when I was scum I was more active, so I can't be scum". That is not how it works. At all.
I couldn't stop thinking about my post since I left. I'm really sorry I snapped Crab.
Well while I'm here may as well answer. When I have an x-shot power I like to use it early in the game because you don't know if you'll survive the night.
I still haven't had a chance to look at Verelios in detail, but I get the suspicion. I'm sticking with my vote though.
Some thoughts from early day 2.
Sorian opens asking if we could do a lynch that makes sense listing off Bronx, swamped, faddy, inactives. So this tells me that he was frustrated at the squidy lynch sure, but we have a full day to play before we break. What is a smart or dumb lynch will change. As shown by sorian currently voting blarg.... so that doesn't read great for sorian to start.
CCS big opening discussion of the day focuses on squidy voters. Couple of issues with this. First, the issue with focusing on who voted for the person who ended up getting lynched is that you are working off in complete information. Unless you can be confident that the scum team had something at stake with one of the other candidates it's a pointless exercise. Second, his noted removal of kyan and sorian is odd and problematic. He says sorians vote was a clear townie vote for non tie, but that's such a basic move.
Burb brings up natikos read list which just seems to be walking into a wifom situation. Also says that he would be going back to look at day one end voting. Did he ever do that or did it get lost in what comes after with the poisoner misunderstanding? Speaking of which I town read burb off of that whole exchange. It felt like an attempt at solving, albeit one based off of misreading a post. But I do agree asking about details the poison statement is pretty sketchy and seems off. I can see the train of thought, but obviously think it was off base. But being wrong isn't a scum tell. I don't see a scum!Burb having this weird exchange.
Crabs post calling out a poison doctor to act strikes me as a bit odd. It should be an obvious course of action for any one to take. What it might do is lead to the doctor claiming in a misguided move to respond. He doesn't say don't claim in that posts, but crab has the reasonable defense that it's an obvious implication to not claim. Let's him not take any heat while making it more likely to get the P doc out in the open... makes me a bit more suspicious of crab.
Sorian makes a post I agree with in terms of natikos read list being wifom. Pushes ccs on kyan, but is fine since his vote was self evident. Again it's self evident that it's an easy vote to make and then try to get some town cred for it. He and splinter find it so hard to believe burb misread a post? That seems strange. So far sorian hasn't been coming off great on day 2.
Sorian opens asking if we could do a lynch that makes sense listing off Bronx, swamped, faddy, inactives. So this tells me that he was frustrated at the squidy lynch sure, but we have a full day to play before we break. What is a smart or dumb lynch will change. As shown by sorian currently voting blarg.... so that doesn't read great for sorian to start.
CCS big opening discussion of the day focuses on squidy voters. Couple of issues with this. First, the issue with focusing on who voted for the person who ended up getting lynched is that you are working off in complete information. Unless you can be confident that the scum team had something at stake with one of the other candidates it's a pointless exercise. Second, his noted removal of kyan and sorian is odd and problematic. He says sorians vote was a clear townie vote for non tie, but that's such a basic move.
Burb brings up natikos read list which just seems to be walking into a wifom situation. Also says that he would be going back to look at day one end voting. Did he ever do that or did it get lost in what comes after with the poisoner misunderstanding? Speaking of which I town read burb off of that whole exchange. It felt like an attempt at solving, albeit one based off of misreading a post. But I do agree asking about details the poison statement is pretty sketchy and seems off. I can see the train of thought, but obviously think it was off base. But being wrong isn't a scum tell. I don't see a scum!Burb having this weird exchange.
Crabs post calling out a poison doctor to act strikes me as a bit odd. It should be an obvious course of action for any one to take. What it might do is lead to the doctor claiming in a misguided move to respond. He doesn't say don't claim in that posts, but crab has the reasonable defense that it's an obvious implication to not claim. Let's him not take any heat while making it more likely to get the P doc out in the open... makes me a bit more suspicious of crab.
Sorian makes a post I agree with in terms of natikos read list being wifom. Pushes ccs on kyan, but is fine since his vote was self evident. Again it's self evident that it's an easy vote to make and then try to get some town cred for it. He and splinter find it so hard to believe burb misread a post? That seems strange. So far sorian hasn't been coming off great on day 2.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
I didn't write it to make you feel good about it lol
TheWorthyEdge
Member
This is not the best of reasoning for using the shot. You have better chances of dying later in the game so why would you use it right off the bat?
I find your answer odd. Very odd. A controllable commuter is very valuable, especially later on in the game. Wouldn't it be wiser to save the shots for later? Now, one could argue that there is sense in using the commuter shot if one feels that they were a possible nk candidate. You mention no such thing, just a general "I like to get value out of powers". You don't comment at all whether or not you considered your life to be in danger.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
I don't like how Crab is trying to get trains going. He's talking about how he doesn't want a swing yet he wants to build momentum on Verelios or Faddy and "start a wagon".
VOTE: Crab
I don't like that. It's an easy vote to "hide" in so that makes this vote hard, but I feel it's the right thing to do. I also find these posts of "they're just sticking to the shadows" stupid. I don't agree at all. Yeah, there may be an "inactive" that is Mafia but from what I've played they're mostly out in the open.
VOTE: Crab
I don't like that. It's an easy vote to "hide" in so that makes this vote hard, but I feel it's the right thing to do. I also find these posts of "they're just sticking to the shadows" stupid. I don't agree at all. Yeah, there may be an "inactive" that is Mafia but from what I've played they're mostly out in the open.
That's a garbage reason and you know it, and have at least gone through with questioning my scum leads more than your shit posts. I've been scum reading Crab since day 1, I've been scum reading you since day 1, and surprise what we see here.
Vote:Crab
Tell me more on how you want to save your teammate
In retrospect, this doesn't look like a conversation but a shift in climate to start a bandwagon.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
This is the post that rubs me the wrong way. He's talking about how we have so much time left in the game yet he wants to start a bandwagon vote against one or the other. But when it comes to voting him, nooOoOOOooooo wayyyyy!
StanleyPalmtree
Banned
I think they work just like in the improv comedy show "whos line is it anyway?"
That's like not what he is saying at all. He's saying don't pigeon hole us into a scenario where only swamped and him are viable options. There's enough time left that people are still plenty able to put a vote on their top scum read instead of picking only between the two of them. If you think crab is the scummiest cool, but he was getting on nins case for pushing the head to head with several hours left.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
But why does he only want to talk about 2 people?
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Unvote
Wasn't thrilled with how Kalor just popped in and also voted Burb, but the counter-vote is interesting. Seems like Burb is doing his own thing, focusing on a lower-activity player so he seems engaged while his target isn't.
I seem to have missed the case on Verelios but the shifting wagon seemed abrupt to me after the Swamped claim.
I buy Swamped using her commuter shot on N1. Dying with unused shots is the worst, especially when that death was preventable.
There was another post that stuck out to me. Will look back for it and also at Verelios.
Wasn't thrilled with how Kalor just popped in and also voted Burb, but the counter-vote is interesting. Seems like Burb is doing his own thing, focusing on a lower-activity player so he seems engaged while his target isn't.
I seem to have missed the case on Verelios but the shifting wagon seemed abrupt to me after the Swamped claim.
I buy Swamped using her commuter shot on N1. Dying with unused shots is the worst, especially when that death was preventable.
There was another post that stuck out to me. Will look back for it and also at Verelios.
That's exactly what he's saying. He's displacing Crab v. Swamped with me and Faddy, band wagons he'd have no problem resorting to. If he had left out that last line, then fine, but you cant honestly say Crab has no agenda after seeing that.
This is what I call a deflection post that you'll probably never come back to.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Reading that vote for Crab by Verelios and how Crab interacts with Verelios I can't help but think about the possibility that they're scum together trying to throw everyone off, and now it caught on so they're trying to separate each other as much as possible now.
I'm down for a vote on Verelios or Crab honestly.
I'm down for a vote on Verelios or Crab honestly.
That last line is merely bringing forth two other players who seem to have garnered enough attention to make them a viable possibility of votes swinging their way. Of course crab has an agenda and that's staying alive, but I don't see this nefarious undercurrent that's overbearingly obvious to you apparently.
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Found it, right here:
Surprised this didn't get more attention, but this is a sweeping generalization that 5 players aren't scum because they're active and being talked about? Almost 1/5 of the entire player list isn't scum? Come on.
This is as bad as the CCS post on D1 that says "I won't vote for X, Y, or Z because they're not scum."
This is mafia. Unless you're a mason/lover or scum, you are on your own. No one is 100% town until they flip.
Surprised this didn't get more attention, but this is a sweeping generalization that 5 players aren't scum because they're active and being talked about? Almost 1/5 of the entire player list isn't scum? Come on.
This is as bad as the CCS post on D1 that says "I won't vote for X, Y, or Z because they're not scum."
This is mafia. Unless you're a mason/lover or scum, you are on your own. No one is 100% town until they flip.
That doesn't make much sense. Faddy had 1 vote at the time and discussion only seemed to have him at the barest periphery.