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Star Trek: Beyond

Maaaaan that was fan-friggin-tastic. Loved everything about it, and the villain was pretty great. I knew he sounded familiar from the first time he spoke in english. Called that shit before the reveal. Jaylah was an awesome character too. I hope they continue making these as I've thoroughly enjoyed all three so far.

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No idea if it's even getting released down there in the US of A, but if any of you get a chance to see it, check out Window Horses. Frontrunner for best animated film of 2017. Ann Marie Fleming is a Canadian artist and filmmaker and I got to see a couple of her films in Toronto this week, so here are some quick reactions:

You Take Care Now (7.5/10) - This is one of Ann's first films, a short autobiographical movie depicting two traumatic experiences (being raped while travelling in Italy, and being the victim of a hit and run in Vancouver). It's a multimedia work, combining animation and video footage, and uses voice over narration to structure the piece into two discrete episodes. It's pretty good as an experimental video, not great but still compelling and well made. The strength is almost entirely in the writing, as Ann's voiceover combines humor and pathos in surprisingly effective (and affective) ways. ("What did I do to deserve being raped and run over in one life? And then I remember there is only one...")

Window Horses, or The Poetic Persian Epiphany of Rosie Ming (9/10) - A young poet who has never been to France writes a book of poetry about France and gets invited to a poetry festival in Shiraz, Iran. Really, I should say no more. As with You Take Care Now, there is tragedy and sadness lurking in the depths, but there is also warmth, and humor, and love. As Rosie Ming stumbles her way around Iran, meeting new people and experiencing new things and discovering new ideas, a whole new world of wonder and opportunity, and eventually her own past, are revealed. This is something of an unexpected, and wonderful, companion piece to Paterson, a simple, unassuming, and beautiful portrait of a humble, everyday poet, an ode to the power of poetry and the poets in all of our hearts. The animation is wonderful, full of small, clever, funny details, and so much of the film is so simple and charming that I was surprised to suddenly find myself choking back tears by the end.

I'm usually pretty down on Canadian cinema in general, so it was a joy to discover Ann Marie Fleming's work this week. Window Horses gave me life.
 
This shot from the trailer is so slick
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No idea if it's even getting released down there in the US of A, but if any of you get a chance to see it, check out Window Horses. Frontrunner for best animated film of 2017. Ann Marie Fleming is a Canadian artist and filmmaker and I got to see a couple of her films in Toronto this week, so here are some quick reactions:

You Take Care Now (7.5/10) - This is one of Ann's first films, a short autobiographical movie depicting two traumatic experiences (being raped while travelling in Italy, and being the victim of a hit and run in Vancouver). It's a multimedia work, combining animation and video footage, and uses voice over narration to structure the piece into two discrete episodes. It's pretty good as an experimental video, not great but still compelling and well made. The strength is almost entirely in the writing, as Ann's voiceover combines humor and pathos in surprisingly effective (and affective) ways. ("What did I do to deserve being raped and run over in one life? And then I remember there is only one...")

Window Horses, or The Poetic Persian Epiphany of Rosie Ming (9/10) - A young poet who has never been to France writes a book of poetry about France and gets invited to a poetry festival in Shiraz, Iran. Really, I should say no more. As with You Take Care Now, there is tragedy and sadness lurking in the depths, but there is also warmth, and humor, and love. As Rosie Ming stumbles her way around Iran, meeting new people and experiencing new things and discovering new ideas, a whole new world of wonder and opportunity, and eventually her own past, are revealed. This is something of an unexpected, and wonderful, companion piece to Paterson, a simple, unassuming, and beautiful portrait of a humble, everyday poet, an ode to the power of poetry and the poets in all of our hearts. The animation is wonderful, full of small, clever, funny details, and so much of the film is so simple and charming that I was surprised to suddenly find myself choking back tears by the end.

I'm usually pretty down on Canadian cinema in general, so it was a joy to discover Ann Marie Fleming's work this week. Window Horses gave me life.
Window Horses trailer

Great review. Window Horses looks cool, right up my alley. Only other animated film with Iran was Persepolis. The voice sounded familiar, yup it's Shohreh Aghdashloo (24, Grimm, The Expanse,The Stoning of Soraya M)!
 
Logan was great. Easily the most engaged I've been with a blockbuster superhero movie since 2008, far surpassing everything Marvel and DC have done since The Dark Knight. Hugh Jackman just absolutely killed this depiction of Snikt, and they used every drop of that R rating to bring out the fury, brutality, and emotional exhaustion to make Wolverine work on a level beyond the "comic book movie." I really, really, really liked the action set-pieces here, both in how they're used within the pacing of the movie, and how they're executed. Good score, good visuals, Patrick Stewart brought it, simple plot. Great stuff. Now this is an X-Men movie I will remember in a year.

Get Out was also good. Didn't blow my mind, but I had fun with it. One of those movies that I love for existing more than love outright. It's smart and important for 2017. Glad this has made lots of money, and I hope Peele gets to realize his other "social thrillers."
 
Bless up. with you on both those reviews big time. And the weight in the action scenes in Logan was great, every slash and stabbing was vivid in its brutality

If peele has more socially relevant thrillers in mind I hope he makes them. While I think get out could have been better it's still pretty entertaining and reminded me of a Great episode of the Twilight Zone
 

eso76

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Finally saw Trainspotting 2

So, I was expecting the story to take a different route actually: the trailer had me imagining it would translate the themes of the first onto modern forms of addictions (internet, social networks, maniac fitness..) and i thought it would be a very clever way to make a sequel about 40 something in the year 2017.
Where the first movie speaks to a generation, the scope of the second is much narrower and mostly restricted to events concerning the 4 main characters and the story plays not unlike other movies of crime and betrayal (think the Snatch, but far less articulated) and I honestly saw that ending coming.

The monologue is brilliant at times, but i think it gets somewhat lost, being thrown in the middle of the film and the editing (which is otherwise exceptional) in that part could have made it a lot more impactful. Wasted potential there.

The nostalgia moments were nice, but felt like fanservice at times, and it looks like most characters lived in a bubble for the last 20 years. Their past seems to consist only of the events told in the first movie for the most part.
It's worth mentioning that I didn't see the first until much later, so while i loved it it was never a personal cult or anything. so the throwbacks didn't pack the same punch on me.

And that's it for the cons.

Pro's are

Amazing cinematography and soundtrack, great acting and a few truly brilliant moments of film making and occasional clever writing.
Some good bits of comedy too.
Engaging enough and enjoyable
 
When you look at Fences on paper, with its great setting, great actors, etc, it looks like it should work like gangbusters. Unfortunately Fences fails to break out of its stage plays roots, and the whole time I was watching it I was somewhat bored, somewhat wishing I was watching the apparently much better stage play.

It's Pittsburgh in the 1950's, Denzel Washington plays Troy, a proud working class man who is eternally bitter about what might have been in the past who dominates his household with an overbearing personality. Viola Davis is Rose as his initially submissive and good humoured wife, Mykelti Williamson is his mentally impaired brother.

It's a pretty simple plot overall, considering how there's not much of a plot, but it reads like a play from school, honestly. It's so full of symbolism and stereotypes and stuff you'd expect to see from a secondary school play, it took me right out of it.

A lot of the film is just talking. Not that its a bad thing necessarily, but its so boring and dry, with so much of the film being Troy droning on about the same boring things against the same boring backdrop. The vast majority of the film takes places in and around the family home, another aspect that betrays its roots as a stage play, and it really doesn't help the film.

Between Troy's endless droning monologues, hammy acting, boring backdrops, and just being really quite dull, Fences is a big misfire on nearly all counts, with the exception of the acting, which is excellent. Hard to reccomend.
 
Contact: While it hits you over the head repeatedly with its themes (and it's a long-ass movie, so that's a lot of head knockin), there's an emotional honesty to and nuance to the themes that elevates it from being the pure hokum it easily could have been.

Logan was great. Easily the most engaged I've been with a blockbuster superhero movie since 2008, far surpassing everything Marvel and DC have done since The Dark Knight. Hugh Jackman just absolutely killed this depiction of Snikt, and they used every drop of that R rating to bring out the fury, brutality, and emotional exhaustion to make Wolverine work on a level beyond the "comic book movie." I really, really, really liked the action set-pieces here, both in how they're used within the pacing of the movie, and how they're executed. Good score, good visuals, Patrick Stewart brought it, simple plot. Great stuff. Now this is an X-Men movie I will remember in a year.

Get Out was also good. Didn't blow my mind, but I had fun with it. One of those movies that I love for existing more than love outright. It's smart and important for 2017. Glad this has made lots of money, and I hope Peele gets to realize his other "social thrillers."


Yup, my thoughts exactly. I liked how the score in Logan during some of the action scenes kinda reminded me of The Conversation with the janky piano goin on.
 

thenexus6

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High and Low

It was excellent. I was a little tired which didn't help but I enjoyed it alot. Going to continue my Kurosawa season with The Bad Sleep Well next I think.
 

Ridley327

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Zelda may have locked up my passion for watching films in a basement. I have fallen off the wagon so hard, boys and girls.

That being said, the "autism makes you secretly amazing" angles that movies play upon is really irritating for someone who has Asperger's and has two brothers that are closer to being outright autistic.
 

TheFlow

Banned
Logan was great. Easily the most engaged I've been with a blockbuster superhero movie since 2008, far surpassing everything Marvel and DC have done since The Dark Knight. Hugh Jackman just absolutely killed this depiction of Snikt, and they used every drop of that R rating to bring out the fury, brutality, and emotional exhaustion to make Wolverine work on a level beyond the "comic book movie." I really, really, really liked the action set-pieces here, both in how they're used within the pacing of the movie, and how they're executed. Good score, good visuals, Patrick Stewart brought it, simple plot. Great stuff. Now this is an X-Men movie I will remember in a year.

Get Out was also good. Didn't blow my mind, but I had fun with it. One of those movies that I love for existing more than love outright. It's smart and important for 2017. Glad this has made lots of money, and I hope Peele gets to realize his other "social thrillers."

o_O
 

Borgnine

MBA in pussy licensing and rights management
Dead Poets Society: 5/10. Lame. So was this cliche ridden when it was released or was it the movie that created them? Pretty by the numbers, I knew every beat that was coming. Funny that Wilson's dad wanted him to become a doctor and that's exactly what he did lol.
Cinema Paradiso: 8/10. Now we're getting somewhere. Really interesting contrast to Dead Poets which was released around the same time. They're both dripping with sentimentality but this one succeeds and the other does not. I'm giving a lot of credit to the Morricone score, always seems to know how to legitimize what would otherwise be straight cheese. The thing at the end was magical, real emotion and tears not over a person or an event but just the idea of the movies. pretty neat trick.
 

TheFlow

Banned
I Graduated, But… 1929
★★★
Even though a lot of the film was lost, that doesn't hold it back from being a decent short film. The story is something relatable, and something I have experienced.
 

smisk

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Saw Logan this morning. It was so refreshing to see a superhero movie with personal rather than world-ending stakes. Had some surprisingly touching moments too. This'll definitely be what I compare future Marvel/DC films against.
Now maybe it's time to start Legion...
 

kevin1025

Banned
I'm not digging the look. Editing is on point because wright, but still something feels kind of flat because of the visuals. Maybe it was the click wheel iPod classic they threw in there?

Given his age at the time of the accident mentioned in the trailer, I imagine it was a gift from his parents he holds dearly.

I watched last night:

You're Next

The one problem with these sorts of movies is I think I have a foolproof plan for these types of situations: bore the person to submission by staying in a single room and having a weapon ready for when that door opens, or they burn me out, which wouldn't be very exciting for them.

So when everyone starts splitting up and doing their own thing, I got a little disappointed. But then the movie started clicking, once things started progressing. Sharni Vinson was great in it, seeing directors as some of the cast members was pretty fun, and the synth 80's horror music during gorier parts was cool. It's a simple little film, but it has a playfulness in its horror heart, so I recommend it for that.

Also, looking it up on Wikipedia, crazy how it premiered at TIFF is September 2011 and didn't get a theatrical release until August 2013. That's a hell of a wait.
 

TheFlow

Banned
Saw Logan this morning. It was so refreshing to see a superhero movie with personal rather than world-ending stakes. Had some surprisingly touching moments too. This'll definitely be what I compare future Marvel/DC films against.
Now maybe it's time to start Legion...

hard to compare logan against some of the MU movies because they are going for two completely different things. It is like trying to compare Dark Knight to Avengers 1. completely different things.
 
Fist Fight left me with a question, not an uncommon one after terrible American comedies. Is it just me? Are these American style comedies supposed to be so excruciatingly awful? Is it a cultural thing? Maybe if I was American, able to relate to these experiences more so, I'd find them screamingly amusing. As it stands though, Fist Fight is just horrid.

By that I mean I didn't laugh once, I spent most of the film grimacing in dismay. Not only is it unfunny, its also crass, boring, and vaguely offensive.


What was the plot again? Something about Charlie Day's teacher character getting Ice Cube's teacher character fired and ice cube deciding that he needed to fight him in exchange. The plot is basically non existent, but thats not necessarily a flaw if its a set up for amusing comedic set pieces. Unfortunately Fist Fight doesn't have them.

What's the joke? Jokes? I don't get it. It's loud, crude, full of people riffing on each other. 'Hey I do drugs but also I don't but then I do ha ha also underage sex is so funny right also here's Charlie Day and ice cube being overly violent' Masturbation jokes? You got it! Also not jokes! It's just stuff that happens. Its just horrendous.


I'm trying to make sense of it a little more, or say something clever about it, but I really can't. It's just crude, horrid, American nonsense. American comedy films truly seems to have lost their way recently, least mainstream ones. It would be preferable to have a Fist Fight than watch this film.
 

kevin1025

Banned
Fist Fight left me with a question, not an uncommon one after terrible American comedies. Is it just me? Are these American style comedies supposed to be so excruciatingly awful? Is it a cultural thing? Maybe if I was American, able to relate to these experiences more so, I'd find them screamingly amusing. As it stands though, Fist Fight is just horrid.

Having just finished Office Christmas Party, I think some comedies are just tax break schemes or excuses for paychecks until something better comes around.

Because Office Christmas Party was depressing to watch. T.J. Miller had a couple of good lines, but the rest was so bad or so obvious or so disappointing. It's like they didn't know what they were aiming for. There's an iCal joke that I'm sure 95% of the audience would glaze over.

Plus comedy has gone to this weird, mean-spirited place, for these types of movies at least. No one is a good person, they're just hateful or spiteful in some way. I don't know, there's some excellent comedies still, but the majority is rough to sit through.
 
Having just finished Office Christmas Party, I think some comedies are just tax break schemes or excuses for paychecks until something better comes around.

Because Office Christmas Party was depressing to watch. T.J. Miller had a couple of good lines, but the rest was so bad or so obvious or so disappointing. It's like they didn't know what they were aiming for. There's an iCal joke that I'm sure 95% of the audience would glaze over.

Plus comedy has gone to this weird, mean-spirited place, for these types of movies at least. No one is a good person, they're just hateful or spiteful in some way. I don't know, there's some excellent comedies still, but the majority is rough to sit through.

Sounds bang on the money. I don't think amusing comedy is just riffing, or saying things that are supposed to be funny. Charlie Day is paticularly guilty of this, also that blonde woman. She's in this and Jump Street and Office Christmas Party
 
All this Miami Vice talk got me to rewatch it in full since it's been sitting on my DVR for a while. Yeah this movie is too long, has kinda wonky pacing, a lot of empty characters and cliched melodrama, and it has a fucking terrible butt rock cover of In the Air Tonight over the end credits. BUT to dismiss Miami Vice over those things, while maybe understandable, misses out on the irresistible atmosphere and flow of this movie. Hard cuts, storms at night, sudden violence, really fast vehicles, tech jargon out the ass, clinical violence, lots of angsty rock music montages while macho dudes shower and have sex with ladies, uber precise digital cinematography, epic locations, and Sonny and Tubbs being fucking bosses, all make the movie a propulsive machine of mid 2000's machismo as only Mann is capable of delivering. It's flawed, but it's the kind of flawed I can get behind.
 

faridmon

Member
Having just finished Office Christmas Party, I think some comedies are just tax break schemes or excuses for paychecks until something better comes around.

Because Office Christmas Party was depressing to watch. T.J. Miller had a couple of good lines, but the rest was so bad or so obvious or so disappointing. It's like they didn't know what they were aiming for. There's an iCal joke that I'm sure 95% of the audience would glaze over.

Plus comedy has gone to this weird, mean-spirited place, for these types of movies at least. No one is a good person, they're just hateful or spiteful in some way. I don't know, there's some excellent comedies still, but the majority is rough to sit through.

Yeah, This movie was really bad. First movie I walked away from the cinema, as much as I love Jason Bateman, his character was awful. Especially the romance was ham-fisted, No subtly and just came of cringy and groan worthy. It was not a funny movie at all.The party itself was just them yelling out words of shitty tracks and thats that.
 

TheFlow

Banned
All this Miami Vice talk got me to rewatch it in full since it's been sitting on my DVR for a while. Yeah this movie is too long, has kinda wonky pacing, a lot of empty characters and cliched melodrama, and it has a fucking terrible butt rock cover of In the Air Tonight over the end credits. BUT to dismiss Miami Vice over those things, while maybe understandable, misses out on the irresistible atmosphere and flow of this movie. Hard cuts, storms at night, sudden violence, really fast vehicles, tech jargon out the ass, clinical violence, lots of angsty rock music montages while macho dudes shower and have sex with ladies, uber precise digital cinematography, epic locations, and Sonny and Tubbs being fucking bosses, all make the movie a propulsive machine of mid 2000's machismo as only Mann is capable of delivering. It's flawed, but it's the kind of flawed I can get behind.
Give me bad boys 1-2 any day over Miami vice when it comes to Miami movies
 
hard to compare logan against some of the MU movies because they are going for two completely different things. It is like trying to compare Dark Knight to Avengers 1. completely different things.

Give me bad boys 1-2 any day over Miami vice when it comes to Miami movies

Lol

Tbh I think it's fair to call Logan a better comic book movie than most of the marvel and dc stuff. They're all adaptations of popular superheroes after all

And your bad boys comment is reasonable too even if I disagree with it
 

Blader

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The Bad Sleep Well is amazing. Shame there's no bluray release for it yet.

Great wedding scene, too.

Saw Logan this morning. It was so refreshing to see a superhero movie with personal rather than world-ending stakes. Had some surprisingly touching moments too. This'll definitely be what I compare future Marvel/DC films against.
Now maybe it's time to start Legion...

They're nothing alike.
 

Lafiel

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Toni Erdmann

Thought this was a wonderful if often meandering 2-hours and 40-minutes of absurd eccentrics, some brilliant character interactions and the acting of the father echoed Klaus Kinski is the best way possible.

Surprised this is getting a US remake though, I imagine at least two or three classic scenes won't be adapted and the film probably won't be nearly three hours long.
Seems like Song To Song was Malick's last movie of this completely loose style, which makes sense considering it was filmed forever ago. I recall reading somewhere last year that he did an interview (!!!) and said that Radegund is going to be more traditional and structured.
I have very strong feelings that Radegund is going be amazing. The premise is just so good and material that is perfect for Malick to take up on. Personally I enjoyed both To the Wonder and Knights of Cups but it will be great to see Malick return to something more traditional.
 
Train to Busan Eh. When it works it works pretty well but my god not all scenes need be a melodramatic climax. Every character is a caricature and there are way too many scenes involving people holding/pushing/pulling something for a very long while. Some nice tense moments though in between the platters of cheese. 6/10

Dead Poets Society: 5/10. Lame. So was this cliche ridden when it was released or was it the movie that created them? Pretty by the numbers, I knew every beat that was coming. Funny that Wilson's dad wanted him to become a doctor and that's exactly what he did lol.

Saw it in a theater when it was released and yup, this was pretty much my sentiment at the time.

Cinema Paradiso: 8/10. Now we're getting somewhere. Really interesting contrast to Dead Poets which was released around the same time. They're both dripping with sentimentality but this one succeeds and the other does not. I'm giving a lot of credit to the Morricone score, always seems to know how to legitimize what would otherwise be straight cheese. The thing at the end was magical, real emotion and tears not over a person or an event but just the idea of the movies. pretty neat trick.

My favorite tearjerking scene that should just be cheesy but works flawlessly. Magic indeed.
 
I hope bay takes over bad boys 3 now that Carnahan bounced. 2 was just a blazing mess of stupid ass scenes and baller action. Since then he's just been fucking around with robots, and secret soldiers of benghazi (smh) wasn't a good action movie either
 

TheFlow

Banned
Mike and Dave need wedding dates and neighbors 2 were also entertaining of last year.
Zac affronn is perfect for comedy roles
 

TheXbox

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Kong: Skull Island

Surprised to see so many complaints about tone. As far as I could tell, this was a movie that knew exactly what it was - pulpy, B-tier monster schlock. It's cheeky, it's stylish, and it's not meant to be taken seriously. I appreciated the self-awareness. Jackson's Kong was equally absurd - perhaps moreso - but absent any of those other aforementioned qualities. That was a 3/10 movie. Skull Island is a 6.
 
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