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The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |OT2| It's 98 All Over Again
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Like if I had to rate the bosses on a 1-10 scale:
Goron Boss: 5
Zora Boss: 4
Rito Boss: 2
Gerudo Boss: 10
Honestly, it's really good.
JeTmAn81
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Wait, what do they drop I've just been vaporizing them.
There are many rings in the field. Find one where you can see a direct line of sight between two rings.
Same opinion. What's here doesn't match the craft of the typical Zelda dungeon. The divine beast word rotation was interesting, but not a solid replacement.
And the bosses inside the beasts are meh. Mostly small AI with a few simple patterns to dodge. Very little need for clever tool use from my memory. Super simple and straight forward.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Parts you need to upgrade a specific armor set as well as high tier weapons. High power Swords/Clubs/Spears and triple shot bows. And Shock Arrows. They love those.
Good stuff.
Thats where i sit as well. I would love this game if it managed to include Skyward Sword level Dungeons/Boss Fights.
Making a mid powered Unbreakable weapon/Shield the reward for clearing them would be great and wouldnt effect the balance too much. Especially with the bow still reliant on consumable arrows
Ah I see, I thought it had to be with the ones that the camera focused on during his song.
It's my new favorite Zelda game but i sort off agree i hope the hard mode dlc makes the dungeon and final bosses quite a bit harder.
Since this hard mode needs to be paid for i can't see it being just a hero mode lol the backlash would be insane it kinda already is that.
Increased/faster/smarter enemy and boss ai and more frequent attacks and maybe even new attacks would be ace. Plus some new survival elements for the open world would also be nice.
A very hard Zelda would be so cool. I certainly hope that mode somewhat delivers if so i don't mind the content of the first expansion of the dlc being a bit barebones. Because a hard mode in a zelda game is very cool sounding.
And about the dlc dungeon i hope it's way bigger than these current ones.
polyh3dron
Banned
People here really kept trying to kill the Lynel during the shock arrow run? I only needed to get one-shotted by him once to figure out that I could just take the arrows and keep out of its sight.
well the blue ones do give out good shit
I got a
40x3 Savage lynel bow
brandonh83
Banned
It's ABSOLUTELY a fucking amazing game. I expect no less from Zelda and this is totally no exception. But when Aonuma said he feels they can do better? I agree. They can. And the ways they can do better are blatant.
Yeah the blue Lynel's loot is just so damn good. I still keep its sword, shield and bow up to now lol.
victreeb3l
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I think already this game beat SS as my favorite Zelda and game in general but there are a lot of things I'd like to see in the next one. This is a fantastic base and if we got more real dungeons I would be over the moon.
Im not finished yet and I cant wait until the DLC.
Im not finished yet and I cant wait until the DLC.
If a classic dungeon was dlc I'd shit bricks
The thing is, if you take this as a standalone ip it's a really good game. If you've played zelda before though you know what you like about the series and BOTW misses out on a few key things.
Wyndstryker
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If they dropped the bomb and remake zelda 1 dungeons in botw as dlc
OrbitalBeard
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It misses out on a few key things for some people. Not everyone. I love Zelda and have for 30 years, but this new direction is fantastic for me. This is Zelda's Resident Evil 4. It's the biggest departure for the series since Zelda II.
Obviously there's a lot of room for improvement though. I don't believe anyone would argue otherwise. I've never been more excited for a Zelda follow-up in my life, as I can't wait to see how Nintendo builds on this formula.
How would this even work in a 3D game? They'd be pretty lame by 3D standards.
brandonh83
Banned
Skyward still by far has my favorite story, dungeons, bosses, etc. Those are huge things for me that BOTW absolutely pale in. It does other things better but I'm one of those folk that doesn't consider the world size and such that major a selling point. I prefer the tighter environmental design in Skyward a lot more than just a big world. Luckily the world here is handled much better than most open world games, but I can't help but feel it's way too big and lacking that Nintendo polish in terms of pacing and other things.
It took me a minute to realize those weren't the only three rings and look on the other side of the road.
yep, and lynels are actually fun to fight, they're way harder than guardians ( that you can super easily cheese)
now if only this game had darknuts... that wouldve been a damn nice enemy to fight
ScientificPizza
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It'll be like in Wolfenstein when you slept and it would become a Wolf 3D level, except this would just be remakes of a dungeon that just consists of a bunch of open and empty rooms
brandonh83
Banned
It's a great great game. I love it. But in terms of what I'm personally looking for in Zelda, it doesn't completely fit the bill. Most things do, and while I'm playing I'm loving it. It's impressive and then some. But when I consider what elements I love ABOUT Zelda, it's not all the way there. It almost is. But despite how great it is, and it's undeniably amazing, I can't help but, being a longtime fan, being gravely disappointed in certain aspects.
Admiral Woofington
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Where can I find blue lynels? I've seen regular and white ones. Not blue
i really love the puzzles and concept of the beasts. putting link inside something where the beast itself is part of the puzzle is pretty damn neat. the shrine stuff ranges from simple to great. and i actually appreciate some of the motion control puzzles. when i played skyward sword, i felt like it was a massive oversight not to have more creative puzzles that revolved around motion controls.
thing is, i don't think you can do botw twice. making another hyrule that's enormous and explorable to your heart's content just won't work - so i think there will be a return to the formula with the next one, but it will keep some of what worked in botw.
thing is, i don't think you can do botw twice. making another hyrule that's enormous and explorable to your heart's content just won't work - so i think there will be a return to the formula with the next one, but it will keep some of what worked in botw.
Confused Cheeseburger
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This is truly the ultimate game.
Hey there's nothing wrong with having a preference. BotW is a fundamentally a different game than previous 3D Zelda titles and that inevitably leads to losing out on some things. Personally, I'm hoping some of the missing Zelda aspects show up in the DLC.
Bakkus
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LOL i'm so dumb, used the Switch camera snap button...
check the coliseum ruins just northwest of the great plateau. wasn't expecting to see one there, so it was a nice surprise and a good fight.
2Smashed4U
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Goddamn Akkala Tower
is there no way to kill the malice? I already shot one eye.
I think you guys demand too much out of this game lol. There's a reason why it took a really long time and several delays just to get this game out of the market. I'm all for something more, but there's always a next time and a next game or maybe the DLC, and with BotW's critical success then Aonuma and company will surely use this as a base and improve the formula going forward.
I think if this takes off well enough, there's no going back. There's plenty to improve upon, but this is kind of a new standard. I'd personally be disappointed if they went back to the old ways.
Everything you need is there ;-)
brandonh83
Banned
It sounds like I'm down about the game and yeah, I am in ways. But I've been playing nonstop since launch and have loved every moment. I'm not ill toward this game. It's just that I wanted and hoped this to be the definitive Zelda.
It is in some ways, not really in others. The quality and imagination is there. But KEY reasons why I look forward to each Zelda just kind of aren't there. I'd give this game a 10 so far, no question. It's amazing. But I feel that way about most Zelda games and I guess I'm just still waiting for that one that stands heads and shoulders above the rest.
This game does not do that. But it sure does come close.
OrbitalBeard
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I think a traditional 2D game from the "3DS" Zelda team on Switch would be cool.
But this is definitely the new 3D Zelda standard. I wonder if the next game will take place outside of Hyrule though. It kind of has to be in a new location, I feel.
Depending on where you are in the game the lynel upgrades in the coliseum and scales with your progress. Eventually it is the hardest silver lynel in the coliseum.
2Smashed4U
Banned
Yeah same, if the next Zelda is OOT VI it's a hard pass from me.
Will they though? I can see them continuing the physics stuff, sidequests and open world. But every Zelda game has a unique hook. Here it was the wilderness, open world, exploration etc. That might return, but don't expect what you really like to make it in every game going forward. It really depends on which world they create for the next game.
BigJonsson
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brandonh83
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If this game did the open world aspect but with a variety of traditional dungeons, bosses, enemies, etc it'd probably be my favorite ever. It's what I thought the game would be. But a lot of my favorite Zelda aspects I think were lost in the developers trying to compete with other open world games. Metal Gear also fell prey to this.
Don't try to compete with Witcher or GTA. Compete with ZELDA. Compete with Metal Gear. Don't try and outdo something that is totally unrelated. This is the problem I think Breath of the Wild ran into and it's just not necessary at all.
Don't try to compete with Witcher or GTA. Compete with ZELDA. Compete with Metal Gear. Don't try and outdo something that is totally unrelated. This is the problem I think Breath of the Wild ran into and it's just not necessary at all.
so far, without having beaten the game, i think they could improve upon:
1. context. the story and how it's presented is pretty weak (a collectathon, eh?). it feels like ocarina of time in its simplicity, and aside from zelda, the main cast lacks charm that you'd find in skyward sword or the wind waker. and while townspeople are funny and interesting, there's no overriding theme like in link's awakening or majora's mask that puts all of their lives into a different context.
2. inside places and things. hyrule castle is pretty neat in that it feels like a dungeon you can explore. i was actually surprised by that and enjoyed the hell out of running around the inside of the place, exploring its nooks and crannies. more caves and secret minidungeons would be neat.
at least, that's all i can think of off the top of my head. there's a ton the game already does and it's surprising how much is in here. wandering onto eventide and discovering (to my horror) that at four hearts i was going to have to clear this place starting from scratch. there's a lot here that makes the game actually feel like an adventure, when there were glimpses of it in twilight princess and the wind waker, and none of it in skyward sword (which is basically if zelda was super mario galaxy).
When OoT became a gaming darling the next home console Zelda games followed that pattern up until now. So I wouldn't be surprised if the next one does follow the "open-air" aspect of BotW.
And of course there will be differentiating factors for the next Zelda for sure. Maybe the next game will be "open-sea" for all we know lol. Or maybe the next game is not set in Hyrule. There's just so many possibilities with the current formula they've built in this game to play around for the next games.
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