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[……forgetit]

I would argue that bigotry is founded on ignorance, at least in most cases.

I wish. I've seen several intelligent bigots in my life. They didn't have the self reflection to acknowledge their bigotry, but it really is terrifying to see someone who knows individuals are different, know their good and bad people in every race and know that race is a social construct. They just don't care.

 

[Auctopus]

If you think yours or anyone else's right to free speech is being infringed on GAF, ask yourself these questions...

Is this user trying to engage/silence you a member of the US Government?

Are you being detained for expressing your opinion or punished as some sort of criminal?

No?

Are you being responded to with disagreeing opinions by users with the same rights as you?

Oh.

 

[Lakershead22]

Colin reminds me of the guy in Good Will Hunting at the bar who tries to belittle Ben Affleck's character for some reason lol.

 

[Gator86]

cuz he doesnt think like you?





skynidas never said this

I guess you can hide in abstraction, if you want. Part of what caused the situation is Colin posting a shitty tweet about women and then being appalled when people responded negatively to it. Norms generally imply you shouldn't insult marginalized groups. Do we really need a bold truth teller to shake up echo chambers saying that's a shitty thing to do. When someone continuously says/does shitty stuff, maybe the solution isn't to praise people who break up echo chambers. The problem isn't echo chambers. No one cares if Colin is conservative. They care when he's a fuck in a public context. Pretending the issue is about Colin being martyred for his beliefs is disingenuous, at best.

 

[sploatee]

I'm a little confused by this but open to new information.

I'm a long-time fan of Colin's. I might not agree with all of his political views but even when I've disagreed with him he's expressed his views in a rational, respectful way.

His comment on Twitter may have been badly judged but I didn't detect any malice in it. It was just an unfunny joke, that's all. I also have some sympathy with the reaction against the extremes of identity politics (and I say this as a woman and a feminist who works with the LGBT community). The level of debate out there I see is often histrionic, silencing and leaps to condemnation far too quickly. It just creates intractable divisions with the extremes of idpol on one side and the alt-right on the other while those of us somewhere in between feel our IQs dropping.

I saw him on the Rubin Report and thought he put across his views in a calm and sensible manner. They made me think and I think it's valuable to have what I would see as opposing voices to mine out there, so I can listen and learn more both about the way others see the world and the way my view differs.

Is there something else I'm missing? I just don't understand the level of hatred because of a badly judged tweet when all of the other evidence I know of suggests someone who is socially liberal, fiscally conservative and generally a compassionate and thoughtful human being (just perhaps not a particularly funny one in this case).

 

[jviggy43]

The parameters of free speech. This truly is an interesting concept at this point.

I don't think "WE" as a society have quite figured out how to address the contures of free speech in the internet age.

Government, we can all say...government can't limit free speech...but I do think both the megaphone the interenet can be...and the reaction to it is something we haven't figured out yet.

No offense but this is exactly what Im talking about. Government can and has limited free speech. You cannot say fire in a public place, criminal threats is treated as a misdemeanor in many places. The law very clearly says where, what, and when free speech is possible.

In regards to the internet this is also covered under rulings by our courts as well. That poster saying he was defending free speech had no idea hwta he was talking about which is why I made my post. Free speech doesn't preclude you from receiving criticism, or protection from being fired from your position of work for tweeting stupid shit (ala Colin). Thinking that is protected under freedom of speech is going to get you into trouble (not you specifically just in general haha).

Legally speaking however, we have decades worth of court rulings to refer back to in understanding the parameters the first amendment offer us; none of which defend whats happening Collin right now haha

 

[IdreamofHIME]

Be interesting to see their Patreon numbers going forward. Not sure how many pay to hear Tim or Nick.

 

[Spirit of Jazz]

I don't know, I'm not one for celebrating the intelligence of a Neo Nazi.

It's not just the fact he celebrated his intelligence, it's that he also said something along the line of "love him or hate him" as if he didn't want to admit Bannon was an utter cunt. To the the current alt-right demographic he's cultivating it's essentially validating Bannon as a guy that it's smart to follow/respect. Then when questioned about it he just pleads ignorance.

 

[Blastoise]

Damn that sucks.

I thought the KF crew was tight.

 

[Poltergust]

It's dangerous to write off all bigots as dumb or ignorant. The ones who aren't know how to manipulate the ones who are for personal gain while increasing their numbers, while earning sympathy from people who, if you ask them outright, will tell you they don't support bigotry. You can see it in this very thread.

I wish. I've seen several intelligent bigots in my life. They didn't have the self reflection to acknowledge their bigotry, but it really is terrifying to see someone who knows individuals are different, know their good and bad people in every race and know that race is a social construct. They just don't care.

Don't misunderstand me here. It's more like the ones who have really strong hatred are able to attract people to their cause by playing to their ignorance.

I remember seeing a good series of videos describing Gamegate going through this phenomenon... ah, here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y8XgGhXkTQ&list=PLJA_jUddXvY62dhVThbeegLPpvQlR4CjF

 

[Raven117]

Figure out what? Colin put his bullshit out there. People reacted (quite slowly, really) and Colin took his ball and is running to somewhere his shitty opinions will be tolerated. Nobody at Kinda Funny or any of their fans are obligated to put up with his shitty opinions or jokes.

Wasn't talking about Colin.

Even discussing free speech is a diversionary tactic here. It's is literally unrelated in any way. A person with a job said dumb shit that reflected poorly on the company and arrangements were made for him to leave as to not sully the brand further. If anything this is an example of the free market working. He should be thrilled.

Not debating that. Was more thinking in broad sweeping general terms of the parameters of free speech in a societal (not governmental) context. There is no question that "the internet" (ie the people on it) can choose to really wreck havoc in someone's life if "the interenet" disagrees with what you put out there. Does the public tar and feather (which is essentially what this kind of stuff is), the correct retribution for any perceived "crime."

My point being that whatever is put out there is interpreted by people you don't know, and then they can wreck you if they judge such comment against the "social good."

But on the other hand, its just as easy to say "if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen." (In other words, don't say anything).

The two are related though just not in the way that many folks tend to miss.

Been thinking this stuff for a while from a big picture kind of thing of how communication now functions.

As for this...and Colin and KF, I mean...It was obviously Colin didn't seem all too interested in talking about video games for a living. This drama was probably all the reason he need to see the door.

 

[recklesscognition]

Sad so many people is "happy" that someone lost his job. For sure you either never work, or had to pay bills for family.

Didn't he say one time in the last year his mom still pays his cellphone bill?

 

[a916]

I don't give a single shit about anyone's politics. Believe what you want. However, I expect you to be a professional in your, well, profession. Allowing personal bias, either for or against something, to blind your professionalism and outlook on something is a no-no to me. It isn't just a Sony thing either. I feel the same about any professional gaming journalist who fanboys over a brand to the point of it interfering with objectivity in the work place.

They had the most cynical take on so many of Sony's decisions... they ripped Sony apart for how they handled the Vita and Playstation Now and the PSN and the inability to change names.

 

[Lockjaw333]

It's beyond me that some of you are trying to paint Colin as a bigot. Are you kidding me? The dude is one of the most accepting individuals I've come across. He is like the polar opposite of a bigot, but you people just keep continuing the narrative that he is.

He just has different political views than most in games media, and I guess most gamers. That doesn't make him a bigot. He liked the engage in political discussion and wasn't afraid to voice his right leaning opinions. However I never got the impression he was a bigot at all. Alt-right? You have to be fucking joking with that. He's a republican with traditional republican values when it comes to government, is extremely socially liberal, and he fucking LEFT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY because of the Trump and alt-right nonsense.

It's fine if you didn't like him, but don't drag his name in the mud because you disagree with him politically. From what I've seen he is a good dude. Do you think Greg is a good guy? Of course you do....So consider that they have been best friends for like over a decade. Do you think his bf would be a bigoted asshole?

Jesus the overreaction in this thread.

 

[Goldenroad]

Is there something else I'm missing? I just don't understand the level of hatred because of a badly judged tweet .

Yes. You're missing something major. Namely his passionate stance against women and minorities on the last PS ILY, and then the reaction to his followers, calling them "humorless sacks of shit", after making the sexist Tweet. Then there's everything else he's been saying over the last year or so as well that has taken him down this path.

 

[ScientificPizza]

Didn't he say one time in the last year his mom still pays his cellphone bill?

I want nothing more than for this to be true

 

[Weetrick]

I'm a little confused by this but open to new information.

I'm a long-time fan of Colin's. I might not agree with all of his political views but even when I've disagreed with him he's expressed his views in a rational, respectful way.

His comment on Twitter may have been badly judged but I didn't detect any malice in it. It was just an unfunny joke, that's all. I also have some sympathy with the reaction against the extremes of identity politics (and I say this as a woman and a feminist who works with the LGBT community). The level of debate out there I see is often histrionic, silencing and leaps to condemnation far too quickly. It just creates intractable divisions with the extremes of idpol on one side and the alt-right on the other while those of us somewhere in between feel our IQs dropping.

I saw him on the Rubin Report and thought he put across his views in a calm and sensible manner. They made me think and I think it's valuable to have what I would see as opposing voices to mine out there, so I can listen and learn more both about the way others see the world and the way my view differs.

Is there something else I'm missing? I just don't understand the level of hatred because of a badly judged tweet when all of the other evidence I know of suggests someone who is socially liberal, fiscally conservative and generally a compassionate and thoughtful human being (just perhaps not a particularly funny one in this case).

He tweets things with the intention of stirring up controversy. His rabid fans eat it up, salivate at the thought of "PC liberals" becoming triggered, and attack other members of the gaming press. This kind of behavior serves to fracture the community and people were getting tired of it.

 

[decisions]

They had the most cynical take on so many of Sony's decisions... they ripped Sony apart for how they handled the Vita and Playstation Now and the PSN and the inability to change names.

Anyone who says that they are (were...fuck) Playstation fanboys and blindly supported everything Sony did have simply never listened to their shows...It's just factually wrong. They shit on some of Sony'd decisions often.

 

[Thewonandonly]

You are a perfect example of many Gaffers on here. Don't know shit, don't read shit but decides to make a post that comes out his/her ass. Doo Doo butter for everyone and for free.

That image that has been floating around of the Twitter account "I Stand with Colin M" and the Gadsden flag isn't Colin's official account but some fan. We know Colin's account is notaxation. You are a prime example of not just Gaffers but of the internet as a whole. Read a snippet, decides to have an opinion based on very little info and decided to open their mouth and spew Doo Doo butter.

I get that Colin is abrasive, arrogant, smug and I disliked him towards the end for all those reasons. But I've been listening to this guy since I was 18. 9 fucking year now. It's an end of an era and for us fans of Colin (and I know you're out there) don't be afraid to come out and state it for fear of reprisal from other Gaffers, fuck that.

I won't let his legacy on the gaming industry (games press and games personality) side be soiled by a stupid, tasteless joke he made. That I could have made myself on any day of the week. That my dad could have made, anyone could have done it. Some will say it wasn't the joke and that it was Colin overall and his attitude but people, especially on this forum have wanted his head for months now. Now you have it.

Great post and it makes me a little sick being in this thread. Some of the post I see on here should be a suspension at least. People calling him a cunt and the scum of the earth. Like fuck for real sorry you don't like his political views that's allrifht I don't either, but he had insightful views of the gaming industry. I will still closely follow Greg because I enjoy him, but I will miss Colin deeply

 

[Machina]

I doubt it'll happen, but if Colin ends up somewhere like Breitbart, Infowars or whatever, it would be a glorious example of a safe space retreat that we can never let the far right live down

 

[CheesecakeRecipe]

I'm a little confused by this but open to new information.

I'm a long-time fan of Colin's. I might not agree with all of his political views but even when I've disagreed with him he's expressed his views in a rational, respectful way.

His comment on Twitter may have been badly judged but I didn't detect any malice in it. It was just an unfunny joke, that's all. I also have some sympathy with the reaction against the extremes of identity politics (and I say this as a woman and a feminist who works with the LGBT community). The level of debate out there I see is often histrionic, silencing and leaps to condemnation far too quickly. It just creates intractable divisions with the extremes of idpol on one side and the alt-right on the other while those of us somewhere in between feel our IQs dropping.

I saw him on the Rubin Report and thought he put across his views in a calm and sensible manner. They made me think and I think it's valuable to have what I would see as opposing voices to mine out there, so I can listen and learn more both about the way others see the world and the way my view differs.

Is there something else I'm missing? I just don't understand the level of hatred because of a badly judged tweet when all of the other evidence I know of suggests someone who is socially liberal, fiscally conservative and generally a compassionate and thoughtful human being (just perhaps not a particularly funny one in this case).

I think the problem with this is that you're correlating them being able to articulate their socially backwards views in a calm manner as though that excuses the basis for those views. Milo Y was a master at presenting his neo-nazi opinions in a level-headed way - that did not, at any point, make those views sensible. It's one of the biggest flaws in the moderate/centrist way of thinking, and it's something that is being spoken out against more and more.

I also wouldn't call the way he reacted to some of the criticisms I've seen of him as calm, rational or sensible. He basically told everyone who took offense to his joke that they should eat shit. Any illusion that he is a decent person should have been shattered by that alone. But then, consider what his opinions actually are, and...

 

[Goldenroad]

It's beyond me that some of you are trying to paint Colin as a bigot. Are you kidding me? The dude is one of the most accepting individuals I've come across. He is like the polar opposite of a bigot, but you people just keep continuing the narrative that he is.

He just has different political views than most in games media, and I guess most gamers. That doesn't make him a bigot. He liked the engage in political discussion and wasn't afraid to voice his right leaning opinions. However I never got the impression he was a bigot at all. Alt-right? You have to be fucking joking with that. He's a republican with traditional republican values when it comes to government, is extremely socially liberal, and he fucking LEFT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY because of the Trump and alt-right nonsense.

It's fine if you didn't like him, but don't drag his name in the mud because you disagree with him politically. From what I've seen he is a good dude. Do you think Greg is a good guy? Of course you do....So consider that they have been best friends for like over a decade. Do you think his bf would be a bigoted asshole?

Jesus the overreaction in this thread.

Sexism is not a political belief. No one cares about his politics. He could be a socialist lesbian for all I care, but you call out the fans of your site as being "humorless sacks of shit", after making a really bad (bad as in unfunny) sexist joke, and yeah, you're still going to be considered a bigoted asshole.

 

[Raven117]

No offense but this is exactly what Im talking about. Government can and has limited free speech. You cannot say fire in a public place, criminal threats is treated as a misdemeanor in many places. The law very clearly says where, what, and when free speech is possible.

In regards to the internet this is also covered under rulings by our courts as well. That poster saying he was defending free speech had no idea hwta he was talking about which is why I made my post. Free speech doesn't preclude you from receiving criticism, or protection from being fired from your position of work for tweeting stupid shit (ala Colin). Thinking that is protected under freedom of speech is going to get you into trouble (not you specifically just in general haha).

Legally speaking however, we have decades worth of court rulings to refer back to in understanding the parameters the first amendment offer us; none of which defend whats happening Collin right now haha

I know....(but do read Schenck v. United States...doesn't exactly hold what you think it does). Anyway, nono, I agree with you. You are right that the governemnt has placed some restrictions on free speech. What they have stopped short of is free speech that is "offensive."

We are in agreement on what the government says is free speech and what "society" can tolerates as the content of such speech. Generally speaking,...(well...see my post above).

Im thinking philosophically here. Does the evolution of communication affect freedom? Is freedom only given taken or bestowed from the governement? I dunno. Don't know the answers to any of this.

 

[jviggy43]

It's beyond me that some of you are trying to paint Colin as a bigot. Are you kidding me? The dude is one of the most accepting individuals I've come across. He is like the polar opposite of a bigot, but you people just keep continuing the narrative that he is.

He just has different political views than most in games media, and I guess most gamers. That doesn't make him a bigot. He liked the engage in political discussion and wasn't afraid to voice his right leaning opinions. However I never got the impression he was a bigot at all. Alt-right? You have to be fucking joking with that. He's a republican with traditional republican values when it comes to government, is extremely socially liberal, and he fucking LEFT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY because of the Trump and alt-right nonsense.

It's fine if you didn't like him, but don't drag his name in the mud because you disagree with him politically. From what I've seen he is a good dude. Do you think Greg is a good guy? Of course you do....So consider that they have been best friends for like over a decade. Do you think his bf would be a bigoted asshole?

Jesus the overreaction in this thread.

If youre going to call out those of us for attacking his positions, you better actually address the positions were are talking about rather than just saying they are "different" opinions. Yes, they are different, no that is not why we are attacking him.

 

[Captain Smirk]

Damn...Colin Moriarty was the best thing about Kinda Funny. Some of his content was fantastic, especially 'A Conversation With'. They really gonna struggle now without him, PS I Love You XOXO should be axed.

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

Right? He's going to be fine at the end of the day. He probably got bored with video games anyway. He'll probably have some internet talk show about politics and that will be his true passion.

That said. I'm done. Colin is most likely out of gaming thus I dn't give a rats ass what he does. JonTron definitely deserves the out rage right now

I don't give a shit about him, although seeing him follow JonTron, on today of all days, does beg some questions.

 

[Raonak]

my opinions are very clear. I support Colin, I support everyone's right to say whatever they want and I am against echo chambers.

The flipside of free speech is that everyone has the right to criticize hateful rhetoric when they see it.

 

[Rain City Gamer]

I enjoyed his scripted Colin Was Right segments, but couldn't stand him in the other shows. Hopefully they bring in someone else who can at least match the general positive outlook that Greg and Tim offer up. If he goes full political commentary though, looks like I'm done completely with him.

This is how I feel too. Colin Was Right was great, but over the last 2 years he has become the most annoying gaming personality that I pay attention to. I always felt like he overvalued himself when he left IGN, then once he got to KF it was clear it was Greg's show and he was essentially riding Greg's coattails. I feel like he sensed this too, and then started his "Colin the Contrarian" routine to try and create a niche. Unfortunately that process caused him to say and do things that were uncharacteristically uneducated in a gaming sense. This was a guy that would bitch about PS4's lack of exclusive games, then 2 minutes later say "I can't wait to play The Tomorrow Children next week."...ok? Then the biggest thing for me was the whole "Sony is not supporting PSVR" because they only showed a couple mins of it on the E3 stage. ignoring the fact that 70% of their floor space that year was dedicated to PSVR. He was too educated to say (and do) stupid things like.

Wish him luck with whatever he does, but I honestly think KF is better without him.

 

[jviggy43]

I know....(but do read Schenck v. United States...doesn't exactly hold what you think it does). Anyway, nono, I agree with you. You are right that the governemnt has placed some restrictions on free speech. What they have stopped short of is free speech that is "offensive."

We are in agreement on what the government says is free speech and what "society" can tolerates as the content of such speech. Generally speaking,...(well...see my post above).

Im thinking philosophically here. Does the evolution of communication affect freedom? Is freedom only given taken or bestowed from the governement? I dunno. Don't know the answers to any of this.

Yeah I figured you were speaking more philosophically rather than legally (which I realized after my post lol). Yeah its interesting. The history of hate crimes and hate speech are absolutely interesting legal constructs to think about from both a pragamtic legal standpoint and also philosophical one.

 

[ScientificPizza]

It's beyond me that some of you are trying to paint Colin as a bigot. Are you kidding me? The dude is one of the most accepting individuals I've come across. He is like the polar opposite of a bigot, but you people just keep continuing the narrative that he is.

He just has different political views than most in games media, and I guess most gamers. That doesn't make him a bigot. He liked the engage in political discussion and wasn't afraid to voice his right leaning opinions. However I never got the impression he was a bigot at all. Alt-right? You have to be fucking joking with that. He's a republican with traditional republican values when it comes to government, is extremely socially liberal, and he fucking LEFT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY because of the Trump and alt-right nonsense.

It's fine if you didn't like him, but don't drag his name in the mud because you disagree with him politically. From what I've seen he is a good dude. Do you think Greg is a good guy? Of course you do....So consider that they have been best friends for like over a decade. Do you think his bf would be a bigoted asshole?

Jesus the overreaction in this thread.

All we're doing is reacting to the things that Colin has done. In the last week he has gone on the Ruben Report, made an insensitive and sexist joke on IWD and completely doubled down when called out on it, went on Glenn Beck's radio show, and followed JonTron on twitter following Jon's meltdown and espousal of white nationalism and blatant racism

Also I wish people would stop bringing up him leaving the republican party because of Trump. He should not be celebrated for doing the absolute bare minimum. Don't forget he is also the guy who said, gun to his head, he would choose Trump over Hillary

 

[Jebusman]

socially liberal, fiscally conservative

Alright hold up, as an aside, this is one of the most infuriating descriptions anyone can ever have to describe themselves politically, because it's literally wanting to have your cake and eat it too.

"I'm totally on your side, I'm just supporting all the policies that do nothing but harm you, but it's nothing personal, it's just in my financial best interest to do so"

Saying you're socially liberal but fiscally conservative is saying you don't actually give a fuck about anyone but yourself, but you're too afraid to openly admit it.

You then spin it as a positive. Since you "don't care" about other people, you don't match up with those who are actively bigots/racists/sexists/etc, so you seem reasonable. But since you're still voting for policies that ultimately serve to harm those who aren't already rich and/or white, at the end of the day you're doing the exact same fucking thing.

Colin's problem isn't that he's actively racist/sexist. It's that when confronted by the idea that he could have been either of those things, even by accident, he shrugs it off and/or lashes out/doubles down on it. That doesn't seem like a "level headed" person. He just wants to preach and not be questioned. "Colin was Right" isn't a joke. It's actually how he lives his life.

 

[etta]

Lol. Goodbye Kinda Funny, then. He was the only interesting person there.

 

[Raven117]

Yeah I figured you were speaking more philosophically rather than legally (which I realized after my post lol). Yeah its interesting. The history of hate crimes and hate speech are absolutely interesting legal constructs to think about from both a pragamtic legal standpoint and also philosophical one.

You....I like you. I hope we get a chance to discuss stuff in the future.

 

[Madame M]

I too am against echo chambers, I hate it when multiple people have the same opinion near each other!

 

[bananafactory]

Not a single reply! I'm shocked!

You know what has never happened in the history of the echochamber/different views discussion?

The people who are opposed to the 'echochamber' or supporters of 'free speech' actually stating what these different views are, rather than just saying 'alternative opinions'.

Really. What is the liberal agenda that everyone is so against? What's a specific viewpoint that people are too set on and deserves to be debated? I challenge someone to actually say it so we can clear this up once and for all.

 

[Albino_Yeti]

Greg tearing up at "You can support everyone, it doesn't need to be a fight"

GAF didn't get the memo.

Also El Oh El at the (thankfully small) group of people questioning Neil Druckmann because he fucking wished Colin good luck. Are people not allowed to be decent to each other now?

 

[Bolivar687]

Reading the sad and angry comments on the Twitch stream and all the support for Colin on Twitter made me realize just how isolated GAF really is.

 

[Raonak]

I loved beyond and PSILY, and collin is a well spoken individual and hugely knowledgeable on the playstation ecosystem.

but goddam, his political views are very ignorant and pessimistic, to the point that it goes against the positive "best friends" feel KF is trying to go for.

Considering the altright crowd that started following him, it's probably for the best that they parted ways

Hopefully they get a good replacement.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Reading the sad and angry comments on the Twitch stream and all the support for Colin on Twitter made me realize just how isolated GAF really is.

As opposed to just how isolated his twitch/twitter community is?

 

[Con Con]

You shouldn't feel bad for him, it's 100% his own dumb fault.

I know it's his fault. Maybe I'm being overly compassionate, I'm just bummed about it all.

I didn't like his Twitter escapade either

 

[astroturfing]

damn.. i used to like him and Greg as a duo when talking about videogames, many great memories listening to Podcast Beyond.

whenever Colin talked about politics or world events he did kind of rub me the wrong way though.. something was off. never would have guessed he's actually anti-women/minority rights though, that fucking sucks... good riddance then i guess. will not support anything he does.

 

[Maximo]

Lol. Goodbye Kinda Funny, then. He was the only interesting person there.

Honestly would have felt more sad if portilo left.

 

[Curufinwe]

It's beyond me that some of you are trying to paint Colin as a bigot. Are you kidding me? The dude is one of the most accepting individuals I've come across. He is like the polar opposite of a bigot, but you people just keep continuing the narrative that he is.

He just has different political views than most in games media, and I guess most gamers. That doesn't make him a bigot. He liked the engage in political discussion and wasn't afraid to voice his right leaning opinions. However I never got the impression he was a bigot at all. Alt-right? You have to be fucking joking with that. He's a republican with traditional republican values when it comes to government, is extremely socially liberal, and he fucking LEFT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY because of the Trump and alt-right nonsense.

It's fine if you didn't like him, but don't drag his name in the mud because you disagree with him politically. From what I've seen he is a good dude. Do you think Greg is a good guy? Of course you do....So consider that they have been best friends for like over a decade. Do you think his bf would be a bigoted asshole?

Jesus the overreaction in this thread.

I remember when we were supposedly "overreacting" in the PSILY thread, and this was just a joke and not a big deal, etc.

 

[Haly]

GAF didn't get the memo.

But he's not supporting everyone is the actual nature of the problem here. People are very emphatically saying "you're not supporting me and mine? well I'm not going to support you".

 

[CheesecakeRecipe]

Reading the sad and angry comments on the Twitch stream and all the support for Colin on Twitter made me realize just how isolated GAF really is.

The fact that he was pressured into 'resigning' speaks greater volumes.

EDIT: I should clarify that I did not want him to be forced out of Kinda Funny. I even said so a few hours before his resignation tweet went live! It's just the way things go when stuff like this catches up to you over a bunch of years.

 

[ScientificPizza]

Reading the sad and angry comments on the Twitch stream and all the support for Colin on Twitter made me realize just how isolated GAF really is.

GAF isn't isolated, it's just not a dedicated KF community. Of course the people actively engaging with that content is going to be more sympathetic. Everyone who isn't have either left or was never there to begin with.

 

[BulletBees]

This is a huge bummer. Colin was a unique voice on KF that will be missed. Really curious who they will hire to replace him. KF is in a very interesting place right now.

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

Socially Liberal, Fiscally Conservative doesn't work, and people should stop regurgitating it. How exactly can a person be truly socially liberal with extreme libertarian, small government, "notaxation" views, that actively affects society as a whole?

It's essentially an oxymoron to attempt and make incredibly selfish, "fuck you, got mine" types seem less shady.

Social and Economic can't actually be separated, unless of course, you're only serious about one of them.

 

[Lockjaw333]

If youre going to call out those of us for attacking his positions, you better actually address the positions were are talking about rather than just saying they are "different" opinions. Yes, they are different, no that is not why we are attacking him.

Is it because of the tweet? Yeah it was in poor taste but I think the reaction was over blown. It was a missed joke IMO, not much else.

If it's the "humorless shit bags" comment, then yeah that's a shit thing to say. Maybe he was on edge, I can't speak for him and I don't condone that. But it seems out of character for the Colin I've followed for years. The whole situation is shit.

Having said that, he is not a bigot. I haven't seen that in all the years I've watched him. I just imagine if he was my friend, and seeing how people are destroying him and calling him a bigot. It's just too much to me. There are actual real bigots out there, horrible people like some of the names that have been dropped in this thread. I don't think Colin classifies as one.

For some reason I feel the need to state that I'm like super far left liberal. I'm not a right winger defending him. I disagree with him mostly, I just don't think he is a bad dude.

 

[Goldenroad]

I know it's his fault. Maybe I'm being overly compassionate, I'm just bummed about it all.

I didn't like his Twitter escapade either

Don't feel like you need to express any form of compassion towards a person like Colin, who, for the billionth time this thread, said on PS ILY last week that White Males do not need to defend Women, Blacks or Native Americans. He would have zero compassion for you if you were in the same situation, and you really need to consider that when you're thinking of people who need your compassion. If you can't help it and you really feel just as bad for the minorities that Colin takes so much umbrage with as you do Colin, hey, more power to you, spread that love far and wide, but keep in mind there are many people more deserving of it than Colin Moriarty.