Ninja Scooter
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They are just words. Why is Colin so bothered/offended?
Colin Moriarty is leaving Kinda Funny Games.
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They are just words. Why is Colin so bothered/offended?
What a ridiculous article headline, lol
KZXcellent
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Probably the most braindead headline I've seen this week.
For what it's worth, buried deep down in this lengthy argumentative thread...
I'd been a longtime subscriber to PS I Love You XOXO, but hadn't listened to any episodes in a while. Listening to Colin spout off on one of the most recent podcasts directly caused me to go click unsubscribe (I did listen to the entire episode trying to hear it out). I didn't make a big deal about, or give bad ratings to the podcast, I just didn't want to listen to his nonsense any further. I think the podcast and company are much better off without him.
While I disagree with his opinions and viewpoints, it was the complete lack of meaningful discussion or engaging arguments that drove me away. Backing up your own viewpoint with statements like (paraphrasing), 'literally nobody else in the entire world agrees with that stupid opinion, literally nobody anywhere, unless they are also stupid', is not the kind of mouth drivel I want to accept as worthwhile conversation.
I'd been a longtime subscriber to PS I Love You XOXO, but hadn't listened to any episodes in a while. Listening to Colin spout off on one of the most recent podcasts directly caused me to go click unsubscribe (I did listen to the entire episode trying to hear it out). I didn't make a big deal about, or give bad ratings to the podcast, I just didn't want to listen to his nonsense any further. I think the podcast and company are much better off without him.
While I disagree with his opinions and viewpoints, it was the complete lack of meaningful discussion or engaging arguments that drove me away. Backing up your own viewpoint with statements like (paraphrasing), 'literally nobody else in the entire world agrees with that stupid opinion, literally nobody anywhere, unless they are also stupid', is not the kind of mouth drivel I want to accept as worthwhile conversation.
KZXcellent
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I mean, I haven't head from Destructoid in a couple years, but still.. damn.
Michael F. Assbender
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He's not wrong. The article headline is stupid and incorrect. Race was not mentioned or hinted at in that tweet.
ScientificPizza
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How is journalism dying? If you wanted to say traditional journalistic outlets are dying, sure, maybe. But I'd argue even that has plateaued. But the entire profession of journalism? It's such a dumb thing to say, especially from someone who was a journalist and who's future probably lies in journalism (or punditry, which isn't that far removed)
Like cherry picking the one headline about this that was wrong and then proclaiming journalism is dying because they used an incorrect adjective. If that doesn't give you a perfect picture of Colin's mindset idk what does
Like cherry picking the one headline about this that was wrong and then proclaiming journalism is dying because they used an incorrect adjective. If that doesn't give you a perfect picture of Colin's mindset idk what does
Obliterator
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I mean honestly that headline is beyond stupid.
ScientificPizza
Banned
Jesus. If this is a glimpse at full-Colin i don't want to see more
I mean, I haven't head from Destructoid in a couple years, but still.. damn.
Dumb headline for sure. Replace racist with sexist, and it's not wrong, though.
At this point I'm just tired of talking about that dumb joke. It wasn't even funny, clever, or worth defending. I get that he wants to defend people's rights to make jokes without being character assassinated... But pick your battles? Idk. This stupid situation has already destroyed a decade-long partnership, significantly hurt a startup company made up of a group of friends, and ruined people who enjoyed the shows' morning commutes. Is this really even worth it?
At this point I'm just tired of talking about that dumb joke. It wasn't even funny, clever, or worth defending. I get that he wants to defend people's rights to make jokes without being character assassinated... But pick your battles? Idk. This stupid situation has already destroyed a decade-long partnership, significantly hurt a startup company made up of a group of friends, and ruined people who enjoyed the shows' morning commutes. Is this really even worth it?
ScientificPizza
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When your name has justifiably been linked with sexism all day and you're gifted with a stupid headline to distract from that
Tom Nook Sawyer
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I'll bet more people read Destructoid than watch Kinda Funny videos
That headline is beyond stupid tho
That headline is beyond stupid tho
Ninja Scooter
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"Journalism is dying" says noted glorified video game company hype man.
I sure hope he has the next thing lined up, because this approach... yikes.
It really is a shame it ended this way. This was completely unforeseeable a year ago. But somewhere along the line, Narcissist Colin became a thing and he put his "brand" in front of the Kinda Funny brand. I truly think he will regret this down the line. They had a good thing going and it's over now because he's too prideful to apologize for a dumb tweet.
No one. It's a tiny step up from trash content farms. Getting shit wrong is a strategy.
rocketskates
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I do.
A shame, although if his head and heart isn't in it anymore, let him follow his own path. I enjoyed him, so I'll hope for his success.
Merchandise
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Looks like he followed a few more people on Twitter, but unfollowed even more. Would be interesting to know who, lol.
GearDraxon
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Interesting that he's referring to it as a "dad joke." Perhaps he *does* read GAF a bit? That was the defense trotted out here a bunch - "It's a dumb dad joke!"
KZXcellent
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I'm gonna hop out of this thread now. There's been some good discussion but it's been almost a week of this I just want to move on from it. Given his recent tweets I don't see things getting any better either. It's been fun.
I'll probably be back tomorrow somehow
Yeah this is totally fair. The issue with KF was that Colin would voice his opinions very strongly and openly but none of Tim, Greg, or Nick would ever legitimately challenge him on anything, even though you knew they disagreed with him. It was difficult to listen to.
I feel like Colin could do well if paired with someone that could take him to task on certain things while still maintaining a good chemistry.
He wouldn't have left if he didn't.
That's true, which also means it's a place where they are fine with him attacking various other outlets.
Primethius
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He regularly posted in the podcast thread when his dumb minority related video came out. That thread has a ton of little nuggets of stupidity tucked away by him.
My favorite to this moment is his belief that he did more for minorities with his videos than the people complaining about him and his videos (me in that instance).
His arguments were hilarious inept.
Aeriscloud
Banned
Wtf would he know about journalists with integrity?
McMoneyman
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I wonder why he must always attack or go after people on Twitter. Because it feels like he never does it in video form etc.
Randomizer
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Wonder when will his new show 'Colin was alt-right' start airing?
He absolutely reads GAF and loves this sort of attention.
"I do more for minorities than you have ever done!"
"I'm a pro bono lawyer and I help a shit ton of minorities"
"..."
captainmoonlight
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I mean, I haven't head from Destructoid in a couple years, but still.. damn.
Putting the word journalistic in air quotes?
Sounds like some lingering GG to me.
H.Cornerstone
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Washington Post and New York Times say hi.
I was looking for new accounts in gaming to follow many years ago. Before Kinda Funny existed. I saw Colin retweeted by games people a couple of times so I followed him. Over time I saw all the bullshit people weren't retweeting. I'm not sure why people seem surprised by any of this. I guess when you're a fan of the thing he's on it's maybe a little easier to overlook it. I will say that the people I follow don't seem to retweet him anymore, likely because they started feeling the way so many here do.
Easier to do it behind a computer screen than with a camera in your face.
Reminded me of Trump's "wires tapped" tweet for some reason.
Obliterator
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The Dad joke comparison is absolutely apt. If you are offended by Colin's tweet you damn well should be upset at the "dumb bumbling dad" stereotype featured in every modern sitcom, both live action and animated. It is just as used as the "Loud nagging woman" and just as much of a sexist stereotype. If that sort of thing is something you find highly offensive.
That said Colin Was clearly targeting / being controversial with that Tweet which of course makes it worse. But in regards to the "joke" in and of itself it's a commonly used stereotype in media and one with a direct male stereotype comparison
Interficium
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There has never been a video game journalist.
ShockingAlberto
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On one hand, the headline was bad.
On the other hand, he's a toddler.
On the other hand, he's a toddler.
GearDraxon
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Read up on "punching down," get back to us. Then, if you feel the same, attempt empathy at those who live lives where jokes like this are their reality, and play into a world where they are less-valued.
Obliterator
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That's the point? Just as the "Loud wife" isn't flattering. They are long running "role stereotypes". The question is if you find that offensive or not. It is 100% being intellectually dishonest with yourself to find one offensive and not the other. They go hand in hand.
That said, I do agree Colin wasn't "just being funny" and was targeting / trying to pissed people off. Which totally changes the meaning behind the Tweet
To be clear, this is massively hypocritical.
Storm Chamber
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Folks out here throwing jobs in the bushes over misguided tweets.
Must be nice
Must be nice
DriftingSpirit
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it's pretty clear to see that labeling it a "dad" joke downplays what he actually wanted to achieve - controversy. it lays the blame squarely on people who didn't like it and not on him for needlessly stirring the pot to begin with.
H.Cornerstone
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I think NGai Croal, Patrick Klepek, Austin Walker, and Jason Schrier are.
ShockingAlberto
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Do people not really understand how dad jokes work
They're not just bad jokes
Dad jokes have their reputation because your dad could actually be a really funny guy, but in his efforts to make you laugh, he has to use very basic humor. He can't make sexual innuendo with you, so those jokes are out. Jokes that require cursing are out. When you're young, you don't get references, so those are out. Anything that requires much thinking is out.
So calling a misogynistic joke a "dad joke" is only true if he thinks of everyone as dumber than him. Which, like, probably true, as well.
They're not just bad jokes
Dad jokes have their reputation because your dad could actually be a really funny guy, but in his efforts to make you laugh, he has to use very basic humor. He can't make sexual innuendo with you, so those jokes are out. Jokes that require cursing are out. When you're young, you don't get references, so those are out. Anything that requires much thinking is out.
So calling a misogynistic joke a "dad joke" is only true if he thinks of everyone as dumber than him. Which, like, probably true, as well.
Obliterator
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100% agreed and with you on that, as already stated
GearDraxon
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Yup. A "dad joke" is typically a terrible pun, or something along those lines. That's why it caught my eye: I would never have called this a "dad joke," but GAF kept calling it as such.
Yeah, I think you solved it.
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