Fushichou187
Member
Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at as well. It's actually cheaper for me to pre-order it than wait for a price drop since by the time it gets to the price I'm paying now, it'll probably be 6mo-year down the road.
EA/OA Mass Effect Andromeda includes Day1 Patch, no launch day animation improvements
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Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at as well. It's actually cheaper for me to pre-order it than wait for a price drop since by the time it gets to the price I'm paying now, it'll probably be 6mo-year down the road.
Kill Your Masters
Member
I'll just wait for the GOTY edition then.
John Petrucci
Member
All these people frantically wanting to cancel their preorders over some Bioware janky cutscene animations. Honestly hilarious.
I guess all I can say is I've been obsessively playing Bioware games for 15 years, and everything feels fine and even great. Just don't get it.
It will be more polished later after some patches. That's for sure. I'm having a blast in the Andromeda galaxy for now, though.
I guess all I can say is I've been obsessively playing Bioware games for 15 years, and everything feels fine and even great. Just don't get it.
It will be more polished later after some patches. That's for sure. I'm having a blast in the Andromeda galaxy for now, though.
family_guy
Member
Due to the nature of the game, it is going to be patched like 15 times over the next 3 months. You could just wait it out.
Im_So_Pringles
Member
I felt like I was constantly getting bombarded by dialogue in every single video that I watched of this game. Not a single thing to figure out for yourself because the game just spouts it at you. That's the biggest problem that I've had so far, which isn't something that will change in a patch. Definitely going to wait on my purchase.
Edit: which I hate, because I dearly love Mass Effect 1 and 2 and enjoyed the third. This one just looks worse across the board.
Edit: which I hate, because I dearly love Mass Effect 1 and 2 and enjoyed the third. This one just looks worse across the board.
bananafactory
Banned
I don't get it either. I know people hoped they'd maybe look better since its been a while since ME3 but this kind of stuff never prevented me from enjoying the first trilogy
It's already the GOTY edition.
If anything, any glitch being fixed will take away from the experience.
Green Yoshi
Member
Mass Effect Andromeda OT - The ship has sailed
MiguelItUp
Member
Exactly. Honestly, correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think I've ever seen a developer patch in-game models and animations. Especially ones that were used so frequently in the game.
I agree if the core mechanics and Story is fun, than they need to left embargo earlier or one with less restriction. Now people will talk about the animation for days. We will see what happens on monday. Because in my opinion the little bit of story and world building were actually great in the trial
Raven117
Member
This. If this were March of last year, I still would have picked it up.
But this year....Just trying to get through all of the awesome stuff we have out...means games that aren't hitting on all cylinders will be picked up in the bargain bin.
tearsintherain
Member
If you just wanna shoot space aliens its great
If you care about dialog, animation, plot, narrative, voice acting, or story then it seems smarter to skip it for now. Given how EA has handled poorly received games in the past, its almost certain this game will drop in price by 50% within a few weeks. Titanfall 2 recently was selling at Best Buy for $22. Battlefront and Mirrors Edge 2 both got put on EA Access in under a year of release.
Plus ya got some amazing games out right now or soon like Yakuza 0, Nier, Nioh, Horizon Zero Dawn, Zelda BOTW, Persona 5 (soon), etc so why bother playing a game that is lesser than all of them, not to mention any older games you might have missed like Witcher 3, Bloodborne, Uncharted 4, FF15, Hitman, etc.
MeisterLeder
Banned
People saying its just the animations. No the MP is full of issues especially with rubberbanding, constant lag, freezes. Me and a buddy got nothing after having our game crash in Wave 6 of MP... totally fun.
The aiming in MP has some input lag and really weird feel to it.
Game should have been a Fall 2017 or Early 2018 game. Cancelling the MP Tech test wasnt a good idea...
The aiming in MP has some input lag and really weird feel to it.
Game should have been a Fall 2017 or Early 2018 game. Cancelling the MP Tech test wasnt a good idea...
Kill Your Masters
Member
Oh, so this is the Glitch of the year edition then.
Giant Bomb, gamespot, pc gamer, kotaku have now all said some very worrying things based on their first impressions. Couple that with an inexcusable narrative presentation for a cinematic RPG and subpar to atrocious writing that ruins the experience. And then all the signs of it being rushed, like character creation and animations, clipping, and bugs. So of course people are worried based on all the red flags.
AlexFlame116
Member
Not even close mate.
Stiler
Member
Umm, the issue is that ME1/2/3 were known for (at the time) having good writing with great voice acting that put you into the story.
It wasn't like TES or others and known for it's terrible dialogue/acting/facial animations.
It's like a 180 from the previous games in terms of the quality they put into the cinematic storytelling vs other games.
John Petrucci
Member
Well I guess lucky for me I have EA Access and a One. Otherwise maybe I'd be losing my mind as well. As far as I can see, it's awesome.
I never read those outlets' articles to be fair.
I have worried about the Meta score this game will have when I look at overall internet feelings towards the developer that just made DAI. I don't think it'll do great in that regard. It is what it is, but I'm confident with some early patches things for hardcore ME fans will be great.
DarkestHour
Banned
It does for me but I don't have CUE run on startup. Try turning it off.
Novum_Veritas
Member
The sad part is this game will still sell.
Even with this trainwreck of animations etc.
Even with this trainwreck of animations etc.
Ryzaki009
Member
I could but I got charged already so there's that fun bs to deal with.
The only thing is I'm not interested in anything else coming out so even if I did buy it and was so so on it it's not like I wasted my money. (I mean if I can deal with DA2 I can deal with this). Honestly I'm just play it past Eos on release and use Origin's refund if i don't like it.
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
Not to sound rude or condescending, but did people honestly expect a Day 1 patch to fix a massive open world games animations? Wouldn't that kind of fix require massive work?
We are seeing different games then if you aren't seeing what me and 4 other outlets are seeing if the first part of the game
The animations are really that bad that people think it unbelievable that it would get released in such a state
Those animations aren't a simple fix, it's an overhaul... especially the lip stuff.
Depends on how long they've been working on that fix. While it doesn't seem like an easy fix, it could have been in development for a few months and only ready for launch (which this confirms, it isn't)
Depends on how long they've been working on that fix. While it doesn't seem like an easy fix, it could have been in development for a few months and only ready for launch (which this confirms, it isn't)
Have you played the entire game? Can you review it for me? None of this was an issue during the trial that I just played. It everything perfect? Nope. Then again, every single Bioware game ever has pretty much the same quirks people are killing this game for.
Eh, I had fun. Looking forward to the full game.
DarkestHour
Banned
Seems like the smartest thing to do with games lately. Often you'll be able to buy it at a discount too.
It's awesome to be a beta tester these days. /s
I fully realize that games are business, but if you'd actually make a quality product without several issues people would be way more inclined to get into this business. These constant unfinished games are not helping you. They are damaging you. It hurts to see yet an other franchise being ran into a wall, because of stupid decisions by whoever is in charge.
I fully realize that games are business, but if you'd actually make a quality product without several issues people would be way more inclined to get into this business. These constant unfinished games are not helping you. They are damaging you. It hurts to see yet an other franchise being ran into a wall, because of stupid decisions by whoever is in charge.
prag16
Banned
Do yourselves a favor and ignore the flood of incomplete-information hot takes regarding this game (both positive AND negative).
You're fostering a toxic feedback loop of echo chamber negativity.
This article is worth reading. Let's all keep our heads.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertc...effect-andromeda-to-have-piecemeal-embargoes/
You're fostering a toxic feedback loop of echo chamber negativity.
This article is worth reading. Let's all keep our heads.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertc...effect-andromeda-to-have-piecemeal-embargoes/
TheRedSnifit
Member
Different priorities?
Nobody plays Zelda or Skyrim for the story, so they don't care about shitty animations and lame dialogue. Most people do play Mass Effect for the story, so it's a bit more of a problem when the dialogue is stupid and the characters look like they're from Five Nights at Freddy's.
How many games do you know that suddenly and completely change up their cinematography, animation technology, storytelling, dialogue, style of presentation, etc. after the first 8 hours of the game? I guess we just have different experiences because what I'm seeing is incredibly subpar and honestly worse than ME1 in some regards (writing, animations especially).
What gamespot, Giantbomb, pcgamer, and kotaku have said is sending off warning alarms along with what we've seen in the streams and the access gameplay. For a narrative-heavy game, it seems to falter disastrously in both presentation and writing.
Most people won't suffer through hours of shit in hopes to find the good part. I'm glad you enjoyed it, a lot of us didn't.
Danis Saur
Member
See, facial animation wouldn't put me off from playing the game, but it would put me off from BUYING it at all.
This is a $60 AAA game, show it.
This is a $60 AAA game, show it.
BronsonLee
Member
What I'm seeing is pretty much par for the course for Bioware. Animation was NEVER EVER their strong suit. Thinking it would be now was setting yourself up for disappointment.
They have never released a game since going 3D that has had good to great animation.
tearsintherain
Member
the ol' reverse age of conan, eh?
razgriz417
Member
It really seems like they're willing to kill all hype for the game just to stick to their shitty marketing plans
StrongBlackVine
Banned
The character interactions and dialog are the main reason I play Bioware games. Atrocious character models and animations make this a bargain bin buy and Mass Effect was a top 3 franchise for me last gen. Thankfully I'm not hurting for RPGs to play with Horizon Zero Dawn, Nioh, NieR Automata and soon Persona 5. Hell I haven't even played TW3 expansions yet so this is no big loss.
I own every previous Collector's Edition of the game.
... I'm utterly shocked that I'll be waiting on this one until more of the problems get ironed out.
I agree that a lot of the character and animation work looks a bit off, sometimes even goofy, but I don't think it's bad enough to ruin the game. I've had fun with the trial and the odd facial animations honestly didn't bother me too much (even though I was worried that they would after seeing all the gifs and screenshots).
That being said, it would be nice if they fixed some of this stuff. Especially the character's weird-looking eyes (and some of the female characters' make-up which often looks like it was done by a five year-old). Not sure how realistic it is for them to fix the facial animations as I have no idea how they're made. I'd assume that they use some sort of master blendshapes for all the characters and that all scenes/conversations are simply mixed together from that set of blendshapes. If that's the case, I'm thinking it should be doable to fix the facial animations to some degree (like making the mouth/lip/cheek movements less exaggerated and maybe adding some more eyelid/brow movement) but who knows, it may well be too much effort to fix with a patch.
As for the story, I don't quite get people in here saying it's bad. For one, the trial barely even scratched the surface narratively speaking, secondly, I've found the bit of the story that is available in it quite intriguing and could definitely see it going somewhere great. Sure, there are some badly written lines here and there but then look at something like Life is Strange. That game was full of cringe-worthy, badly-written dialogue and it still managed to tell a cool story that many people fell in love with. The odd bad line isn't going to ruin the story if the plot and characters are worthwhile.
They will apparently add in some additional features/options for the CC via patch but we don't know how many or when exactly (except that it sounds like they haven't started working on it yet so it'll probably be a while).
That being said, it would be nice if they fixed some of this stuff. Especially the character's weird-looking eyes (and some of the female characters' make-up which often looks like it was done by a five year-old). Not sure how realistic it is for them to fix the facial animations as I have no idea how they're made. I'd assume that they use some sort of master blendshapes for all the characters and that all scenes/conversations are simply mixed together from that set of blendshapes. If that's the case, I'm thinking it should be doable to fix the facial animations to some degree (like making the mouth/lip/cheek movements less exaggerated and maybe adding some more eyelid/brow movement) but who knows, it may well be too much effort to fix with a patch.
As for the story, I don't quite get people in here saying it's bad. For one, the trial barely even scratched the surface narratively speaking, secondly, I've found the bit of the story that is available in it quite intriguing and could definitely see it going somewhere great. Sure, there are some badly written lines here and there but then look at something like Life is Strange. That game was full of cringe-worthy, badly-written dialogue and it still managed to tell a cool story that many people fell in love with. The odd bad line isn't going to ruin the story if the plot and characters are worthwhile.
They will apparently add in some additional features/options for the CC via patch but we don't know how many or when exactly (except that it sounds like they haven't started working on it yet so it'll probably be a while).
This is worse than their previous games and the writing is pretty bad as well. My face is tired, Ryder saying the same line twice in a span of 20 seconds in a cutscenes ("we got this"), companies falling into your lap for no reason, being immediately railed without justification into the Bioware Space Jesus, etc.
The first part of the game is demonstratively worse than previous Bioware games (barring DA2 maybe)
JamesHolden
Banned
Quick, post a bunch of misleading unflattering GIF's, then ask whether the Devs plan to immediately address your concerns in 3 days, then be outraged when they obviously cannot.