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[wildfire]

Explain it to me how Trump's base isn't fueled by irrational racism?

https://thefederalist.com/2017/03/17/donald-trump-shot-gun-industry-gut/

Unfortunately, Trump’s win has had the unintended consequence of throwing the firearms industry into a deep slump, forcing major companies to lay off workers, driving prices deep into the red, and forcing some gun dealers out of business. While the Obama years might have been a dark time for gun rights, the Democrat president was a boon for gun retailers and manufacturers (a fact Obama has admitted himself). Each time the needle ticked further in the direction of gun restriction, Americans flocked to their local gun store and plunked down cash for more irons.

But some of it is fueled by economics.

In another shot to the gut, the suppressor industry is also feeling the Trump slump. Under Obama, the number of suppressors (which dampen the sound of a gun’s report to hearing-safe levels) sold to America’s gun owners skyrocketed — despite the onerous ATF application process, additional regulations, and $200 tax for each. It seemed that each week featured a new company entering the market and interest surged among hunters and sport shooters.

But in a sad irony, Trump’s support of legislation working its way through Congress that would allow suppressors to be purchased over the counter like a handgun or rifle has prompted potential customers to wait on their next suppressor buy. That’s forced companies like SilencerCo — which Trump son Don Jr. has endorsed and has cornered about 75 percent of the suppressor market — to deliver upwards of 50 percent of its workforce pink slips.

Suppressor industry groups have pleaded with consumers to buy anyway, arguing if the legislation passes (and that’s a big if) it won’t for a while and waiting with crossed fingers just drives manufacturers out of business. It is demonstrably a tough time for the firearms industry today, with the panic-buying surge over and buyers waiting on the sidelines for the next legislative move.

 

[Velcro Fly]

I would think it would be the exact opposite as far as Trump goes.

I would think everyone would want to be heavily armed for when the United States disintegrates into chaos.

 

[BoogieWoogie]

Oh this is the best.

Now that there isn't a "scary black man who is totally going to take our guns" there's a huge drop in sales. Will the NRA turn against Trump?

 

[PeakPointMatrix]

 

[EatinOlives]

A market largely driven by fear and irrational hatred.

 

[Rizific]

I'm in the market for my first firearm, so I should be seeing cheaper prices? I'm ok with that

 

[Xe4]

"dark time for gun rights", lol ok The Federalist. Gun rights expanded under Obama, though not by his hand, but by states expanding gun access every time it looked like any sort of sensible legislation was going to pass.

 

[wildfire]

Oh this is the best.

Now that there isn't a "scary black man who is totally going to take our guns" there's a huge drop in sales. Will the NRA turn against Trump?

There was a surge of obviously liberal leaning people buying guns fitting Trump's first month but our justified fear of Trump can't support the gun industry like irrational white Republicans.

 

[120v]

Well yeah... There was nowhere to go but down

Living in Texas i couldn't even begin to describe how huge guns have gotten the past 8 years

 

[LiK]

NRA used Obama and the Dems as excuses to drive up sales with fear. Of course, this will happen with Trump and GOP in control.

 

[akira28]

if you're a bargain hunter, I guess now is the time to try to build that personal arsenal.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

Yup, I know many a..patriot..that bought up tons of guns "just in case" under Obama. Every mass shooting was basically a christmas shopping spree. Wish I could tell you they were toothless yahoos..

if you're a bargain hunter, I guess now is the time to try to build that personal arsenal.

Very true. Sup, cat?

 

[Strike]

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[Einchy]

It's crazy how many guns Obama took in 8 years. Dude just kept taking them over and over, forcing them to buy more guns.

 

[HiredN00bs]

A market largely driven by fear and irrational hatred.

Post #2 in a perfect world.

 

[Sobriquet]

And no Trump supporters will know that gun rights actually expanded under Obama 😐

 

[No Love]

Good news for me, I want to buy a new gun. Sad news for those poor arms manufacturers. I'm just lamenting the mass displacement and pain for the workers that lose their jobs over this.

 

[hydragonwarrior]

And no Trump supporters will know that gun rights actually expanded under Obama 😐

Repubs know how to keep their base educated with the right facts.

 

[akira28]

Very true. Sup, cat?

Just out here window shopping. Trying to get matching Dracos for the family room.

summer of the eastern european ak copies is soon to be upon us.

Good news for me, I want to buy a new gun. Sad news for those poor arms manufacturers. I'm just lamenting the mass displacement and pain for the workers that lose their jobs over this.

its almost like you wished there were other factories making things in the USA that people could buy. The workers probably are hurting, but the company bosses will be fine.

 

[Brannon]

Prices so low that those... other... people can buy them.

Oops.

 

[Kthulhu]

A market largely driven by fear and irrational hatred.

Yup.

If they aren't afraid of "the liebruls commin to take our guns" then they don't buy any. The NRA should've backed Hillary instead of Trump lol.

 

[yankeehater]

Oh this is the best.

Now that there isn't a "scary black man who is totally going to take our guns" there's a huge drop in sales. Will the NRA turn against Trump?

I bet they are working around the clock to come up with a new Boogeyman to get people to buy guns.

 

[buttery fistful]

While the Obama years might have been a dark time for gun rights...

 

[TheOMan]

Right??

 

[TheRedSnifit]

I'm sure that plenty of it was fueled by racism, but I'm pretty sure the vast majority was driven by the fear that the Democrats were going to ban guns. Nobody seriously believes Trump and a GOP House will push through gun control.

 

[BasicMath]

Under Obama people were afraid of new gun restrictions. And I think that fear was legitimate. Towards the end the Dems fully intended to pass things like "No fly, no buy" which was pretty much designed to strip people of their second amendment rights without due process.

Yup.

If they aren't afraid of "the liebruls commin to take our guns" then they don't buy any. The NRA should've backed Hillary instead of Trump lol.

I'm 100% sure Clinton wouldn't have been able to pass or do anything in terms of gun control but getting a SCOTUS pick or two is incredibly important in the long term.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

Dark indeed.

 

[KRod-57]

Explain it to me how Trump's base isn't fueled by irrational racism?

I'm not so sure it has to do with race so much as it has to do with the paranoia of a Democrat president "taking the guns away"

 

[Mahonay]

I'm not so sure it has to do with race so much as it has to do with the paranoia of a Democrat president "taking the guns away"

It had a lot to do with race.

 

[h1nch]

TBH Trump being president has had me thinking about taking a CHL course and possibly picking up a firearm.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

TBH Trump being president has had me thinking about taking a CHL course and possibly picking up a firearm.

Been hearing there a lot lately.

 

[Hip Hop]

I'm not so sure it has to do with race so much as it has to do with the paranoia of a Democrat president "taking the guns away"

Yeah, that's how I see it too.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

I'm not so sure it has to do with race so much as it has to do with the paranoia of a Democrat president "taking the guns away"

Lol good one.

Oh wait you're serious?

 

[King Tubby]

TBH Trump being president has had me thinking about taking a CHL course and possibly picking up a firearm.

The idea's become more and more appealing. Not interested in being defenseless against neo-Nazis.

 

[shattyboombatty]

Trump to gun retailers: yourefired.gif

 

[SerTapTap]

Hard to say if the Obama thing was racism or just democrat, personally I'd say it's more democrat. He was a popular democrat too which is theoretically more dangerous. They definitely hated Obama because he was black, but I don't see how even a racist draws a line from "black president" to "need a gun".

Of course, and as always, their wacko theories were exactly that, and none of the doomsaying came to pass.

Kinda surprised sales are significantly down after trump. I've considered owning a gun for the first time after being forced to realize exactly how many people in this country really are that dangerously hateful/stupid as fuck.

Under Obama people were afraid of new gun restrictions. And I think that fear was legitimate. Towards the end the Dems fully intended to pass things like "No fly, no buy" which was pretty much designed to strip people of their second amendment rights without due process.
I'm 100% sure Clinton wouldn't have been able to pass or do anything in terms of gun control but getting a SCOTUS pick or two is incredibly important in the long term.

I can't really see any major cases hitting the supreme court and actually changing anything. We've had how many mass shootings? I don't think there's any singular event that would even come close to overturning the current interpretation of the second amendment.

Most people aren't pushing for any sort of total overturn anyway (despite what the NRA loves to bitch about). Just sensible stuff like...uh, like that "give less guns to mentally ill people" bill Republicans just killed for no apparent reason.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

I'm not so sure it has to do with race so much as it has to do with the paranoia of a Democrat president "taking the guns away"

Someone missed conservative radio in the weeks that followed Obama's inauguration. People were calling in legit scared that the Black president was going to set about stripping good upstanding White folks of their guns.

And the hosts were sure to fan those fears with vague responses like "well I hope he doesn't" without being honest with the callers. It was pretty awful and surreal to hear.

 

[Ziltoidia 9]

NRA to lobby to get rid of president term limits.

 

[Sobriquet]

Under Obama people were afraid of new gun restrictions. And I think that fear was legitimate. Towards the end the Dems fully intended to pass things like "No fly, no buy" which was pretty much designed to strip people of their second amendment rights without due process.

Wait... you want suspected terrorists to be able to buy guns?

I'm 100% sure Clinton wouldn't have been able to pass or do anything in terms of gun control but getting a SCOTUS pick or two is incredibly important in the long term.

True. Eventually the Constitution will be interpreted as written, hopefully. Unfortunately Trump was elected, so that's not going to happen for a while.

 

[BrutishMrFish]

I'm not so sure it has to do with race so much as it has to do with the paranoia of a Democrat president "taking the guns away"

No, the narrative that Obama was a secret Muslim who hated white people and hated Christians definitely made things worse and wouldn't have existed in the first place if he were white.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

Someone missed conservative radio in the weeks that followed Obama's inauguration. People were calling in legit scared that the Black president was going to set about stripping good upstanding White folks of their guns.

And the hosts were sure to fan those fears with vague responses like "well I hope he doesn't" without being honest with the callers. It was pretty awful and surreal to hear.

Yup yup. Certainly a history of folks freaking when dems are in power, but to ignore the race aspect is well..silly. No matter how much folks might not wanna hear it, race played a part..

 

[ggx2ac]

Unfortunately, Trump’s win has had the unintended consequence of throwing the firearms industry into a deep slump, forcing major companies to lay off workers, driving prices deep into the red, and forcing some gun dealers out of business.

If only the firearms industry had guns then this could have been prevented.

 

[Mortemis]

Well damn, ain't this something.

NRA needs to help get a black man back into the White House.

 

[guek]

I'm not so sure it has to do with race so much as it has to do with the paranoia of a Democrat president "taking the guns away"

Agreed. Yes, some people were motivated by racism but that's a correlation, not the cause of the gun boon. It would have happened regardless.

 

[Turbo Killer]

The people losing their jobs probably all voted for the orange turd, ain't karma a bitch!

 

[BasicMath]

Wait... you want suspected terrorists to be able to buy guns?

That's not what I said.
I don't believe in taking away people's fundamental rights without due process or them even knowing that their rights have been violated. And that's before we even discuss how screwed up a lot of aspects of the list are.

This actually goes beyond the second amendment and it's completely unbelievable to me to think people support this at all. It's like they don't understand the implications of implementing it.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Wait... you want suspected terrorists to be able to buy guns?

Isn't the "no fly" list still bullshit?

 

[Sobriquet]

That's not what I said.
I don't believe in taking away people's fundamental rights without due process or them even knowing that their rights have been violated. And that's before we even discuss how screwed up a lot of aspects of the list are.

This actually goes beyond the second amendment and it's completely unbelievable to me to think people support this at all. It's like they don't understand the implications of implementing it.

OK, I get that. But what does any of that have to do with No Fly No Buy? Are you misunderstanding the legislation?

 

[One Eyed Willy]

This isn't hard to figure out. When someone threatens to take away something you like, you tend to go out and buy it. When someone doesn't, you tend to just go on with life.

 

[The Faceless Master]

it's like giving a small child all the ice cream and they figure out it will make them sick