Marty Chinn
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You can blame Nintendo for allowing them to do it. After all, Nintendo approves the game for release.
Lego City Undercover Switch cover mentions 13GB download [Up3: Full game on card]
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You're wrong though. Nintendo should be blamed for their media pricing.
He's saying that cards can't add up a significant amount of money (in the thread about RiME costing more due to manufacturer issues) to the game's price. So, there isn't really an excuse for not using appropriately-sized SD cards.
JoshuaJSlone
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Fuck that.
$3 extra cost for the publisher requires $9 extra cost for the consumer? How does that work?jonno394 said:
frankie_baby
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Not saying they are, just saying WB isnt really in a position to get a special deal on a multiplat title that likely wont be that big a success anyway
WhiskerFrisker
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32GB as the max amount of internal storage space is an absolutely absurd move by Nintendo for a portable console. Now this crap is happening. This game would essentially take more than half of my internal storage. One game. Unbelievable. I'm passing on this. I hope this doesn't become standard practice for Switch games.
see here for my napkin maths
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=231973815#post231973815
Not fact, but a potentially valid explanation if pubs want the same return on Switch as they do on Disc.
Wowfunhappy
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This is exactly why I don't buy digital games that I think I'll want to keep for the rest of my life.
it reads exactly like what he is saying
Nope. He's not saying anything in terms of different card sizes. All he says is that it's not 10$ more than a disc. But even 3 or 4$ would be a big amount considering WBIE wants price parity.
-shadow-
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^ In all fairness, without installs and just the screenshots/savefiles 32GB is enough to last a while. Though expansion is eventually required for some.
The cartridge has 7GB and ontop of that a 13GB download is required bringing the total to 20GB.
The cartridge has 7GB and ontop of that a 13GB download is required bringing the total to 20GB.
March of the Crabs
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Is this any different than a day 1 update? I'm against those too, and this makes me sad, but semantics aside they are identical.
Stings extra hard with that 32GB storage. Thankfully micro SD cards are cheap I guess...
Stings extra hard with that 32GB storage. Thankfully micro SD cards are cheap I guess...
There's nothing special about it.
They designed the Switch fully aware of the size of videogames in 2017. They need to accomodate to this reality, not leave publishers to patchwork whatever nonsense they can think of. It generates an inferior user experience.
Robin64
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You can't play this game at all without the download, even single player.
JetSetRadio
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Plug and play they said.
from the disc ... this requires a download from what im seeing. There is a difference.
Again, he doesn't say that. And he also doesn't say anything about different card sizes.
Without proper information and sources on pricing, you are just speculating. The fact that WBIE is choosing a smaller card size pretty much confirms that the difference is significant enough.
Maintenance
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Mister_Ruck
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People get upset when day 1 updates contain 60% of the game too.
This is a bad move but 32GB is not the max amount of storage.
It really should have been 64GB minimum though out of the box.
Jonneh3003
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What do you expect something the size of a tablet to have at an afforadble price? 32GB isn't ideal but there is hardly an alternative.
They didn't even used a 16GB card. They went even cheaper and used a 8gb card.
Even Just Dance use a bigger card !
Uh, sorry man, that's exactly what he's saying. Not sure how you could read it otherwise except if you absolutely want to spin it the way you want. LEGO City is the same price as Just Dance 2017, and the second use a bigger card.
TheMagician
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The game was 22GB on Wii U.
They've definitely just not put the full game on the cartridge.
They've definitely just not put the full game on the cartridge.
Hoho for breakfast
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So this single player game will have a required download that uses 50% of the consoles storage...and somebody thought this was ok.
What a mess.
What a mess.
frankie_baby
Member
They put an SD card slot in the thing, they acomodate reality just fine
How is it absurd? What amount would be acceptable? What device has more than that for around the price of a Switch?
They were clearly working within the confines of price and form factor.
only in your mind
Joelstinton14
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It is pretty easy to defend - 32GB storage and a memory card is cheaper than paying for the cost up front in internal storage.
You could easily buy a switch (32gb) and a 128gb SD card for the price of a potential 64GB switch ( based on other mobile devices prices). The extra memory needlessly raises the cost of the product to the consumer.
You can resell a cart, can't resell a download code.
The value is still there. But not in 20 years.
This makes me lol.
WhiskerFrisker
Member
That's the hope. Still, I feel like that they should have pushed to have 16GB as the minimum card size and try to reduce costs as much as they possibly could to help avoid situations like this. I might actually have to mention this to salespeople at my store, since there will be some parent buying this game for Easter and they could be pretty disappointed that they'll have to muck around with the memory in order to have their kids play it.
UnemployedVillain
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You're not really providing an explanation so much that you're fugding numbers to get to the final price
Lovely Salsa
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But this is a console, not an ipad where apple charges 3x the price of the production cost
Waluigilicious
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Good point lol. But I mean if they're going to do it they may as well do it properly. I wonder why they didn't go 4gb? Or are those not available?
frankie_baby
Member
They should obviously have used miniature blu rays
Not cool
But we must also remember everything bought physical nowadays you put in your console and it starts downloading
If anything, switch has so far been the exception. Put a game in and start playing. Hopefully this is not the norm for switch, but literally everyone does this with physical
But we must also remember everything bought physical nowadays you put in your console and it starts downloading
If anything, switch has so far been the exception. Put a game in and start playing. Hopefully this is not the norm for switch, but literally everyone does this with physical
JoshuaJSlone
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It's 90% the same game they sell new on Wii U for $20. Unless a 32 GB card costs 50 damn dollars I'll save my tears.
I went the whole generation without it being a problem on Wii U. Nobody asked me to use half of it for a single game.
So what's there to complain about.
People complaining about this should just buy a SD card
You can expand your storage, ergo 32GB is not the "maximum" amount
People didn't think a publisher would try to screw them over like this by requiring them to download over 50% o the game after buying and inserting the damn cart. That 32GB can go a long way if you're just buying smaller digital games or getting updates. If you want to buy full retail games digitally you buy extra storage. This situation is neither of those. This wouldn't be acceptable even if the storage was greater then 32GB. This wouldn't be acceptable if there was PS4 game released, that is single player that only contain 5gb worth of the data for the game but required you to download the other 10gb in order to do anything with it. This isn't a damn mmorpg!
The carts aren't the issue here, unless you're saying that the Switch should have used Blu-Rays instead... somehow. The issue is that Warner Bros. chose the most anti-consumer option available to them, and Nintendo let them do it. Both sides are in the wrong here.
Shadow Broker
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Well this game is now on my Pass list. I'm sure WB has their reasoning behind this but no matter the reasoning I won't support the game now.