UK set to trigger Brexit on March 29
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May and everyone involved in this shitshow need to be held accountable for what they've just done.
They're barking on and on about how free trade and unity and a special partnership with the EU is needed. We've had ALL of that and more for the past 44 years. The turkeys voted for Christmas and they've just set the oven on for pre-heating.
This is a complete and utter joke of the highest proportions. I cannot believe that my life will be negatively affected by these morons.
They're barking on and on about how free trade and unity and a special partnership with the EU is needed. We've had ALL of that and more for the past 44 years. The turkeys voted for Christmas and they've just set the oven on for pre-heating.
This is a complete and utter joke of the highest proportions. I cannot believe that my life will be negatively affected by these morons.
Stead Fast
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That's what I meant; once it becomes more apparent beyond conjecture that May and the Conservative government are not going to get a fair deal that helps all of the UK (I know I just said it would be beyond conjecture whilst talking about an uncertain future, but I'm pessimistic about our ability to command negotiations), and given a more driven campaign for an infy ref, learning from the campaigning mistakes made by both the first referendum and the EU (like, not being coherent with arming the public with hard facts and information), you'll see a Scotland that is both being informed, and is seeing first hand what a UK led by the Tories is going to look like beyond the EU.
Nonsense.
The entire 'please unite' line is purely about quieting dissent.
Remainers aren't doing damage to the country by expressing our views. We aren't going on strike. We aren't being violent. We are simply expressing our concerns with the plan the government is putting forward.
Theresa may probably is right that complaining won't achieve anything, but that's only because she's a close minded, belligerent, arrogant, and utterly power-hungry leader who ignores anything that suggests she might be wrong.
Division never stopped people whining about the UKs membership of the EU in the first place.
Obviously you said the same thing to leavers before the referendum though right?
TeamLeftMatch
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1984 because the government can basically lie their way out of anything.
Then the letter came out, basically threatening security cooperation in the absence of a trade deal.
Stead Fast
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A Clockwork Orange, perhaps?
Nah, you broke it you bought it, it's up to the Leavers to fix it. I want my gold shitting unicorn.
Audioboxer
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Put it this way, the deals won't be as good as what we had before, so we're left relying on May and a Tory government to make up shortfalls and find ways to boost the UK outside of the EU. That's a fundamental question of where do you think the UK will be in 15~20 years? If you think the Tories are a great party, then I guess you'll be loving this. If you worry about foreseeable Tory reign then you don't just have Brexit to think about, but what on earth this UK government does to the country for a large chunk in the next chapter of many of our lives. Keeping in mind the average age on GAF, and all of us being in fledgling careers or still studying for our futures, coupled with the NHS which most of us will most likely be needing when we eventually get old. The young and middle-aged really do have to think ahead of the Brexit vote here, to what will come a bit later down the line.
So yeah, I think we both agree!
F for Farage
PJV3
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DAILY MAIL ISLAND.
Statutory bunting, standing for the Queens speech and bone crunching poverty for the lower orders.
johancruijff
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i'll pop a good old english ale and cheers for the english people
i'm really skeptical about Brexit,but i hope you'll prosper
i'm really skeptical about Brexit,but i hope you'll prosper
Can't help being divided when my close friends are worried wither they've got a viable future in this country. Doubt most leavers are in the same boat as I.
So sorry I can't all act "let's make this work!" When the people I care about aren't in a good spot themselves.
Sephiroth503
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May saying "There will be no return to the hard border" re: Northern Ireland. Not sure how she can make such a definitive statement at this time.
TeamLeftMatch
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"Today no one won" probably the smartest thing I heard today.
Audioboxer
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My family dates long ago to Holland and France. Can I use that as leverage to get a European passport? I've got no Irish blood in me.
autumnleaf
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So even if we don't believe immigrants are the source of all our woes we should just accept they are and support whatever racist policies come out of this to make it work. Right.
This will be interesting to see how much power that will give her in negotiations as Germany goes to 2% defence spending until 2024 and overtake the UK.
PJV3
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In the end what is important is what is best for the Conservative party, I'm not sure why you are being so uppity.
Audioboxer
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Angus is getting rowdy, someone throw him a snickers!
but he ain't wrong
Flintty
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Why not? We're all adults?
You can disagree with something but if it's happening by democratic vote then what can you do? Turning on your peers will achieve nothing.
What's so fantastical about trying to instil positivity in the nation? All eyes are on her. If she admitted she thought we were doomed what will that do to the country?
And the test of this will be over the next two years. If she fails then she falls on her sword. At least give her a chance to try and make this work. Remember, she was a remainer but she's doing the job professionally...
Lets just embrace chaos then and hope for the worst? Your thinking doesn't make sense.
Expressing concern is fine and that has been done a lot since the vote. We know a lot of people are unhappy but what do you want to happen now? You're on a forum filled with people either celebrating the death of UK or wishing ill on all who voted leave. It's not a good look for GAF.
I can't answer that. I never used to whine about the EU. I was asked a question, I thought long and hard about it and gave an answer.
/clap
Stead Fast
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Your move Corbyn....
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At least the skeleton had to have decomposed, even at a molecular level that's more action than you'd get out of Corbyn these days.
Why would I want to unite with racists, people severely lacking in basic mental faculties and those willing to play roulette with economic stability? What do I share with these people that I should help unite with them?
Never. They are the de facto enemy. It is a fight against idiocracry and ethno-nationalism. I will never debase myself by uniting with such people. They disgust me, truly. Nationalism is a vile disease.
The tories were elected does that mean everyone has to support them now?
TeamLeftMatch
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Angus is getting rowdy, someone throw him a snickers!but he ain't wrong
But Thresa May said unity.
Edit: /s if anyone thinks I'm serious
PJV3
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An adult can accept that people bitterly disagree with them, it's a democracy.
Stop being divisive and support my position.
She can't.
Audioboxer
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It is a bit opportunistic (from the SNP) but put it this way, you need an opposition with some spice, as long as they keep it from getting personal, smearing, lying and being nasty. Labour could learn a thing or two from the SNP at trying to put pressure on and oppose the Tories.
See the "heckling" part.
But yeah, the memes, pressure, debates and sure, "division", are just going to keep coming.
Even Sturgeon is getting in about some retweets
So Top Men?
I bet there are tabloid editors drooling over the chance to put the "we already miss you" line front and centre on the front pages tomorrow.
TeamLeftMatch
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When Thresea May basically told those who voted to remain to Fuck off, why NOW should we unify.
They're not playing with their ships. They don't work in warm water.
Instil some fucking realism into people's heads. Also more importantly, make people understand that the government actually understands the situation and isn't huffing glue like a lot of Brexiters.
TeamLeftMatch
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It is a bit opportunistic (from the SNP) but put it this way, you need an opposition with some spice, as long as they keep it from getting personal, smearing, lying and being nasty. Labour could learn a thing or two from the SNP at trying to put pressure on and oppose the Tories.
See the "heckling" part.
But yeah, the memes, pressure, debates and sure, "division", are just going to keep coming.
Should've put the /s in my post. We already see a divide going on right now and I agree that she basically just did this on her own without any consulting. At this point I've given up on the Labour party and hope the SNP can show everyone how bad this is
Flintty
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Slightly different and you know it. You don't have to support any party in power but something as big as Brexit is different. What I'm seeing here is UK Gov - "we're leaving EU" and remainers - "Welp, I hope you all fail and I will do whatever I can to make a bad situation worse by refusing to unite".
That's fine. The vitriol aimed at leavers and wishing for failure isn't though.
No, you're all entitled to disagree with Brexit but many of you come across as extremists. I know you/they wont act on it but are quite happy sitting in front of your monitors eagerly waiting for things to go wrong and wishing ill on other humans. We're past the time of fuelling fires, it's time to help put them out. Just my opinion but clearly against the GAF grain :|
Audioboxer
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Jeremy is like Salmond. They both have some principled stances, but shit, they are not leaders. Corbyn needs to step back down to number "2", or just an MP. He is not fit to lead. The sooner Labour sort that out the sooner they can somehow try to get back to rebuilding.
I've got one or two English friends who've even started voting Greens... (ex-Labour). Heck, my first few votes went to Scottish Labour.
TOP. MEN.
TeamLeftMatch
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I like how before article 50 UK was like "Yeah Fuck you EU were independent from your shit no more EU army for us"
Now with the letter sent it say "Come one guys were friends we can make a good deal remember all the good times we had?"
Yep Labour having Corbyn leading is not helping anyone and they defiantly need to change soon or else the Torries will be the only party at this point
Now with the letter sent it say "Come one guys were friends we can make a good deal remember all the good times we had?"
Yep Labour having Corbyn leading is not helping anyone and they defiantly need to change soon or else the Torries will be the only party at this point
You voted for the chaos. It's on you and your ilk. You won, get over it, don't expect us to come up with solutions for problems of your own making. That's on the leavers. Promises were made, and it's on you and the folk you handed power to deliver. So deliver.
Had remain narrowly won, we'd still be getting both barrels from the awkward squad and UKIP. You're the ones who voted for monumental change on the back of a series of a bullshit mostly contradictory and mutually exclusive promises. I want my sunny uplands and cake, then we can unify.
Since your vote had direct implications for both my life and livelihood. It's on you not me to be conciliatory. What do you want me to say,
"well my income halved for three months and had to take dull contract work meaning I was away from my family 4 nights a week, all because you lot felt threatened by foreign accents and polski sklep, but its ok you made a decision and we should all come together because you feel bad about the chaos you caused."
and I'm barely affected by the 'chaos'. My cousin French boyfriend got the shit kicked out of him by some of the victors you want me to unify with.
Theresa May can fuck off, I'll never get behind Brexit and she's just using it to further her own career.
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