UK set to trigger Brexit on March 29

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Burai said:
Not really a legitimate fear if you're a tourist though. Nobody's getting stabbed in Madame Tussauds. Nobody's getting beaten on National Trust property.
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He was replying to someone who said he was doing a tour of the UK. It's reasonable to assume that won't be isolated to tourist traps.
 
jelly said:
What Leavers would like back

New poll results released on Brexit Day give a fascinating and terrifying glimpse into what Leave voters want post-Brexit Britain to look like.

The YouGov survey asked people on both sides of the referendum result what should be brought back once the UK leaves the European Union.

Over half of Leave voters deemed capital punishment and dark blue passports as their most pressing desire with only slightly smaller majorities pushing for the reintroduction of the imperial measurement system and the right to beat schoolchildren.
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That's just wrong.

Light bulbs and weights in pounds and ounces? Hahahahah
 
Napoleonthechimp said:
To be honest this seems like a really poor way of going about things. A country realistically can't leave behind trade agreements and have a period of time with absolutely nothing.
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It's not like this is a surprise. It's been said from the very start. Only the craziest of Leave-ites thought otherwise.
 
M_Night said:
If only the EU was open to more controlled immigration amongst member states this mess could have probably been avoided.
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No, thank you. I wouldn't trade my current arrangement of being able to freely travel/study/work in every other member state with little to no limitations just to appease Sun and Daily Mail readers, or people who can get fooled by a sign at the side of a bus.
 
M_Night said:
If only the EU was open to more controlled immigration amongst member states this mess could have probably been avoided.
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Doubtful, it's non EU migrants that get most people into a frenzy. Heard it loads of times in debates, they can't see past colour and religion like Muslims then blame the EU for it when the UK government controls fully non EU migration and if they so choose, very strong rules on EU migration that the UK government didn't use.
 
Mr. Sam said:
It's possible that - while I think this whole thing will leave us a significantly poorer, significantly less pleasant, and in general significantly lesser nation, and is the single biggest political misstep in the post-war era - I think we could probably reel the hysteria in a bit. For example, there's no need to warn people who'll be visiting as tourists that they'll be set upon if they're not white.
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I'm not aware of anybody doing that.
 
M_Night said:
If only the EU was open to more controlled immigration amongst member states this mess could have probably been avoided.

It would greatly help to calm down a lot of the tenion bubbling around Western Europe.
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Very difficult to have free movement of Capital, Goods and Services without movement of Labour.
 
Brexit Secretary David Davis said in a statement that the country is "on the threshold of the most important negotiation" for a generation
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Voted for by an other generation, like they just wanted to duck over the younger one.
 
Rebel Leader said:
That's just wrong.

Light bulbs and weights in pounds and ounces? Hahahahah
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I can't get over the bulbs, absolute nonsense, the new ones run on far less power, last ages, so much so that you probably won't live in the same house when they stop working. They are just idiots.
 
jelly said:
What Leavers would like back

New poll results released on Brexit Day give a fascinating and terrifying glimpse into what Leave voters want post-Brexit Britain to look like.

The YouGov survey asked people on both sides of the referendum result what should be brought back once the UK leaves the European Union.

Over half of Leave voters deemed capital punishment and dark blue passports as their most pressing desire with only slightly smaller majorities pushing for the reintroduction of the imperial measurement system and the right to beat schoolchildren.
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We just have to gird our loins and wait for all these crusty Telegraph subscribers to die. Then sanity will return.
 
tuxfool said:
I'm not aware of anybody doing that.
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Mr. Sam said:
For example, there's no need to warn people who'll be visiting as tourists that they'll be set upon if they're not white.
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Miles Quaritch said:
Legitimate fear when the areas that voted in favour of leave have seen little to no immigration.
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Zizbuka said:
I'm leaving in a few weeks to tour the UK, too soon to cause me any grief right?
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Linkstrikesback said:
That depends. How brown are you and how good is your English accent?
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jimbobsmells said:
This line from the first official response by the EU seems like a pretty major point, and exactly why the EU holds all the cards right now:

Basically, wait until you've actually left the union in 2019 to START talks with other countries, or you won't get any deal at all.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...icle-50-takes-tough-line-on-transitional-deal
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This point of the today released resolution of the EU parliament will bite the UK especially hard in the future:

there will be no special deal for the City of London providing UK-based undertakings preferential access to the single market and, or the customs union.
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No Eurozone banking passport for London anymore. But the EU made this clear all along. Brexiters however claimed all the time they could keep it somehow.
 
Burai said:
Not really a legitimate fear if you're a tourist though. Nobody's getting stabbed in Madame Tussauds. Nobody's getting beaten on National Trust property.
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Wrestlemania said:
He was replying to someone who said he was doing a tour of the UK. It's reasonable to assume that won't be isolated to tourist traps.
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Yup. If the poster is sticking to the main cities, should be fine. Start heading to less touristy places and shit might not go well.
 
Wrestlemania said:
He was replying to someone who said he was doing a tour of the UK. It's reasonable to assume that won't be isolated to tourist traps.
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If you're touring the UK from abroad, I'd say you're pretty damn likely to be visiting all the main points of interest and those places are going to be at the very least tourist friendly.

I can't speak for the guy, but I'd imagine the Lake District would be higher on his list of things to see and do than run down areas of Kent or Sheffield.
 
chadskin said:
AFP: #BREAKING Merkel rejects May's call for parallel talks on EU-UK ties

Off to a good start.
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To think that we're going to get a better deal as a non-member than the one we currently have as a member is truly absurd. The UK thinks it can get all the perks of being a member without any of the "foreigners". Why would the EU go along with that? It would undermine the value of being a member.
One thing I've heard people who voted to leave frequently say is "we can do more trade with commonwealth nations". I very much doubt that when they say that it also means they have no problems with non-white people from those nations immigrating to the UK as a result of such deals.
 
Ac30 said:
What parallel talks does she want? They're already discussing them leaving?
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I think she means, Germany won't discuss anything about trade with the UK while they are still in the EU but UK can discuss a deal with EU as a whole while they are still part of the EU?
 
Ac30 said:
What parallel talks does she want? They're already discussing them leaving?
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The UK wants to undertake the exit deal and a trade deal at the same time.

The EU has consistently said this is not possible either legally (the EU cannot negotiate a trade deal with someone who is not a 3rd party) or practically (there's not enough time and having the trade deal be part of the exit deal means that there would have to be a full ratification process which basically would take 8 months)
 
jelly said:
What Leavers would like back

New poll results released on Brexit Day give a fascinating and terrifying glimpse into what Leave voters want post-Brexit Britain to look like.

The YouGov survey asked people on both sides of the referendum result what should be brought back once the UK leaves the European Union.

Over half of Leave voters deemed capital punishment and dark blue passports as their most pressing desire with only slightly smaller majorities pushing for the reintroduction of the imperial measurement system and the right to beat schoolchildren.
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Er, according to the chart embedded in that article, a majority of Leave voters oppose bringing back Imperial measurements and corporal punishment in schools. I mean, don't get me wrong, the percentages are still uncomfortably high, but it's bad enough without misrepresenting the data.
 
Y'all need to chill your tits for a while and stop with the ribbing. Try to enjoy the fracas as much as you can. Or vent away, but do so in a sensible way.

tuxfool said:
What about all the BMWs?
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How apropos: German manufacturers say ‘no concessions' to UK in EU exit talks

Thilo Brodtmann, VDMA executive director, called for Brexit negotiations to be held swiftly, saying, "We must not run the risk of having no agreement in place two years from now," when talks come to a close.

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"One thing is clear: Ensuring the long-term survival of the European single market is more important for the industry than the short-term facilitation of trade with the UK," Brodtmann said in a statement.

"That's why an agreement with the EU must not be made more appealing than EU membership. The UK cannot have a special position as a hanger-on."

The VDMA statement came in response to claims by British Eurosceptics that German exporters will be desperate to strike a trade agreement with the UK after Brexit to ensure continued exports to Britain.
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jelly said:
What Leavers would like back

New poll results released on Brexit Day give a fascinating and terrifying glimpse into what Leave voters want post-Brexit Britain to look like.

The YouGov survey asked people on both sides of the referendum result what should be brought back once the UK leaves the European Union.

Over half of Leave voters deemed capital punishment and dark blue passports as their most pressing desire with only slightly smaller majorities pushing for the reintroduction of the imperial measurement system and the right to beat schoolchildren.
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O.O
 
Sephiroth503 said:
To be fair we pampered them for so long with special rules and benefits. Maybe the UK thought that would continue LOL
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Nononono.

The EU is dark and evil.

A snake with which higher powers deep within Belgiums belly ensare and constrict governments and citizens alike.

Its dangerous agenda is a threat to all human life and we need it to die.

Thats why when we leave, were gonna do such an amazing deal with the EU that will benefit all of us and lead to peace, prosperity and pink butterflies and its all going to be AMAZING.

Believe me!


Oh shit, brb. Some fucking rogue scots and pikeys are toying with the idea of independence.

*runs off in distance* oi you pricks, get back in line!
 
The Telegraph have listed "Five EU directives we'll be glad to see the back of"

  • EU working time directive
    The directive, which has been phased into British law since 1998, is a source of acute frustration for surgeons and medical staff. Many believe it deprives them of the chance to perform enough procedures to become fully competent because of the strictures it imposes on shift patterns.
    The directive guarantees employment terms such as a maximum 48-hour week and four weeks of paid holiday per year, as well as rules on hours of rest for shift workers.
    While individual workers can ask to be exempted from the directive, NHS trusts are obliged to draw up rotas that meet the rules. This often means that doctors who are on call, but who sleep undisturbed through their shift, are nevertheless sent home “to rest” when they could take part in training.

  • Bendy bananas
    In 1994, the European Commission drew up regulation 2257/94, which stated that bananas in general should as a minimum be “free from malformation or abnormal curvature of the fingers”. Under the regulation, “extra” class bananas must be “free from defects”, while class 1 bananas can have “slight defects of shape” and class 2 bananas are allowed to have “defects of shape”. The regulation was repeatedly highlighted by Boris Johnson during the EU referendum campaign.

  • Green energy
    The EU renewable energy directive requires the UK to generate 15 per cent of its energy from renewable sources by 2020 – up from just three per cent when the directive was adopted in 2009. That’s not just electricity but also energy used in heating and transport.
    The target has led to Government subsidies for renewable power sources such as wind, solar and biomass power plants, which are ultimately paid for by customers through their energy bills. The National Audit Office estimated that green energy subsidies will cost every household £110 a year by 2020.

  • Great crested newt
    The great crested newt is endangered in some parts of Europe, but remains fairly common in England. However, under the EU habitats directive, which covers all 28 member states, they are a protected species.
    If even a small number are found, newts have to be fenced, trapped and relocated in the spring, which can cost £10,000 even for a small project. In 2011, George Osborne, the former Chancellor, said the directive placed 
“ridiculous costs on British businesses”.

  • Incandescent lightbulbs
    In 2009, the European Commission announced plans to phase out traditional incandescent lightbulbs amid concerns that 95 per cent of the energy that goes into them gets turned into heat rather than light. However, their replacements, LED and fluorescent bulbs, while far more energy-efficient, have proved unpopular because they give off a cold, unnatural light compared to their predecessors.

  • Best vacuum cleaners
    In September 2014, the European Commission introduced new energy efficiency rules which banned many of the best vacuum cleaners on sale.
    Companies were prohibited from manufacturing or importing any vacuums with motors above 1,600 watts. The deadline led to a rush on sales of the best performing vacuum cleaners. Of seven “best buy” ratings awarded by Which? since January 2013, five of them have motors of more than 1,600 watts.
    From September this year the limit will be reduced to just 900 watts. The commission said the rules would help cut energy usage and lower people’s bills.
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Even ignoring how crap the removal of Working Time Directive would be, the others total lack of care for the environment are astonishing. Especially for reasons as meaningless as have proved unpopular because they give off a cold, unnatural light compared to their predecessors

If this stuff becomes the norm (and the state of the press in the UK makes me guess it will be), we are absolutely fucked
 
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