Wind Waker HD without the second screen would be a travesty
Nintendo Direct on April 12 (3PM PT, Switch/3DS, mainly Splarms)
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Wind Waker HD without the second screen would be a travesty
moltonasty
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Come on now, inconvenient- yes, but the game would still work just fine. Even BOTW Wii U removed all second screen functionality.
If the option is Wind Waker HD port with no second screen or no WWHD port at all, I'll take option 1
I was thinking about Detective Pikachu also. I wonder though if as others have speculated we won't just see the Western release for that game come only when all episodes have been released in Japan. They could do an initial boxed release coinciding with the movie, then.
(And, you know I agree with you wholeheartedly about Nintendo Land! One of the most under-appreciated Nintendo games ever.)
Speaking of ports, I looked at my list of games on both the Wiiu, and 3ds. Most of the games I want ported to the switch are zelda games. 
It wasn't a travesty when i Played it on the cube, or with the Pro controller.
It wasn't a travesty when i Played it on the cube, or with the Pro controller.
DragonGirl
Banned
The same way World of Goo does: with a gyro pointer.
It wasn't a travesty when i Played it on the cube, or with the Pro controller.
man, I played through WWHD then went back to the GCN version and I wanted to claw my eyeballs out it was so annoying. maybe it was just me but pausing was so grating especially when sailing.
and yes, BotW would have been better with second screen functionality. Zelda for me is the series that benefited most from the second screen stuff. map usage and inventory management is so much better.
Dark Cloud
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I think there are multiple options here
A) make the levels while you're using the Switch in handheld mode
B) make levels while docked with either the analog stick or use the IR in the right joy con. World of Goo proves this works
C) Couldn't they tie the Nintendo Switch smart device app to Super Mario Maker and when the game is running (docked mode) you can tie your smart device to the game and make levels on your smart device?
The second screen is most of the time completely "useless".
It's just one vertical screen cut in 2 with only one part being a touch screen.
The only thing the 3ds has that the Switch hasn't is the 3D.
...but still a better investment for them than DKCTF or Star Fox Zero.
Nintendo need to be aiming for hit after hit to keep momentum going. Having one or two big games a year and then a bunch of games that are clearly going to have lukewarm sales/gain little interest (ala Wii U)....isn't a pattern they should be repeating.
I suppose I could see a point in ports of less popular games once the Switch is really well established wilth sales far in excess of the Wii U..but you really don't want non-sellers hogging resources now.
Skittzo0413
Member
BotW would've been fantastic with maps/inventory management on the second screen. But honestly those types of things are not game changers, just small QoL improvements. They were right to ditch that idea as it really wasn't marketable.
LegendofLex
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Honestly, for franchises like Zelda and Donkey Kong Country, if they're going to put out remasters on Switch, it should be in the form of collections, not individual remasters.
In that case, Zelda still obviously has terrific selling power, but the Retro DKCs would also be a much better value proposition.
For the competitive attractions (Mario Chase, Animal Crossing, Luigi's Ghost Mansion) they could always beam an image to a smart device, and just have you play with another kind of controller.
moltonasty
Member
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the second screen stuff for Zelda. But I played Zelda games for years without it, and they worked perfectly fine. Do I wish it was still an option? Absolutely. But portable Wii U ports would be amazing, even without the second screen stuff.
I'd take Tropical Freeze over the Zelda remakes any day of the week
one of the best 2D platformers ever made
I'd agree that collections would be preferable (and far more likely to sell).
I'd also say that Nintendo should look into selling all the games they have included in the NES Classic Editon on a single Switch cart for say $30-40..as opposed to the $60 for the NES Classic itself.
Nah well get a nes classics line on switch with each game getting a card and manual costing $15 each.
I'd take a Endless Ocean remaster over either..but it certainly wouldn't make business sense for Nintendo at this stage.
If people want Switch to be a long term success then Nintendo pouring resources into ports of poor selling games really isn't going to help that happen (regardless of how good those games are).
panthapanda
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Wii Sports boxing on crack basically is why people are so into it lol.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Seems like a fresh take on fighters.
Virtual On w/ Nintendo polish & charm
Tropical Freeze doesn't need a remaster / remake, just a port. Maybe an enhanced port with an extra world but my point is that it doesn't have to gain anything from the Switch hardware, it's an HD title already.
The only Zelda collections I'd expect from Nintendo are Oracle of Ages/Seasons and Four Swords/Four Swords Adventures.Why release on collections games that would sell as stand alones.
C.Olimar788
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...Now you guys have me wanting a Wind Waker + Twilight Princess HD compilation for the Switch. With bonus amiibo functionality added to Wind Waker.
Wii U ports outside of Mario Kart 8, Smash, and Mario Maker have no bearing on the long term success of the console so who cares
if the Switch is really relying on games like WWHD to be a long term success then Nintendo fucked up
35 minutes makes me think they're going to announce something new for Switch, whether that's Virtual Console (unlikely), OS features (possible) or some new games (likelihood depends on the game). That would be a long time for them to spend most of it talking about Splatoon 2 and Arms. I mean how long can they realistically spend talking about Splatoon 2? They've shown us quite a few new maps and we've had a chance to play with the dualies in the Test fire. I feel like 10 minutes would be the max they might spend showing off Splatoon 2.
Heck even Arms I can't see them spending much more than 10 - 12 minutes on. That's a long time to be spending talking about one game, especially something like Arms which is a fairly simple looking game from what we've seen so far. Oh and before anyone starts hurling abuse: it looks great fun and seems like it will have a fair amount of nuance in it's control system, weapons and characters etc, but that doesn't stop it being a relatively straightforward premise.
I'm also not sure they will really spend all that long on 3DS stuff. I mean we may see more of Fire Emblem but, again, even 10 minutes would seem like a LONG time to be talking about 3DS stuff.
I mean the Fire Emblem direct was what, 15 minutes? That covered Fire Emblem Heroes, Fire Emblem Warriors, Fire Emblem Switch (albeit with very little info) and Fire Emblem for 3DS. So if they spent 15 minutes talking about 4 games I can't see how they're really going to spend 15 minutes talking about 3DS exclusives.
They say it's a Switch and 3DS direct, but my prediction is the 3DS stuff will be a sizzle reel. Maybe 5 minutes. It would be odd, I think, for them to spend more than 5 minutes on what is essentially a last gen platform, no matter how many people own one. Sony didn't spend hours talking about PS3 games 1 month after PS4 came out. They didn't do any of the "well we better talk about PS3 incase PS4 bombs" stuff which people seem to think Nintendo will.
I just don't buy the whole "3DS is their cash cow and they need to keep talking about it in case Switch bombs" argument. If Switch bombs, Nintendo aren't going to say "bugger it" and go back to churning out all their games on ancient 3DS hardware. They'll release a smaller, lighter, cheaper Switch. Give it up guys, 3DS had a good run but it's coming to an end. They obviously won't say out loud "everyone chuck your 3DS in the bin, show's over", but that's probably what they're thinking internally. If games are still coming out for 3DS it's likely because they were already well into development by the time devs were able to get their hands on Switch dev kits.
If the 35 minute rumours are true, my prediction is 20 minutes on Spla2n and Arms combined, 5 minutes on 3DS stuff and 10 minutes on ????. That ???? could be more details about OS features such as apps, it could be more information about how their online system is going to work, it could be more footage of Fire Emblem Warriors, it could be a total megaton like a Pokemon Stars announcement (fingers crossed but not holding out any hope at all as I suspect this would get it's own Pokemon direct but hey, ORAS was a total throwaway announcement and if Stars is literally just Sun and Moon in HD they may not feel like it's worth making an enormous song and dance about it.)
Heck even Arms I can't see them spending much more than 10 - 12 minutes on. That's a long time to be spending talking about one game, especially something like Arms which is a fairly simple looking game from what we've seen so far. Oh and before anyone starts hurling abuse: it looks great fun and seems like it will have a fair amount of nuance in it's control system, weapons and characters etc, but that doesn't stop it being a relatively straightforward premise.
I'm also not sure they will really spend all that long on 3DS stuff. I mean we may see more of Fire Emblem but, again, even 10 minutes would seem like a LONG time to be talking about 3DS stuff.
I mean the Fire Emblem direct was what, 15 minutes? That covered Fire Emblem Heroes, Fire Emblem Warriors, Fire Emblem Switch (albeit with very little info) and Fire Emblem for 3DS. So if they spent 15 minutes talking about 4 games I can't see how they're really going to spend 15 minutes talking about 3DS exclusives.
They say it's a Switch and 3DS direct, but my prediction is the 3DS stuff will be a sizzle reel. Maybe 5 minutes. It would be odd, I think, for them to spend more than 5 minutes on what is essentially a last gen platform, no matter how many people own one. Sony didn't spend hours talking about PS3 games 1 month after PS4 came out. They didn't do any of the "well we better talk about PS3 incase PS4 bombs" stuff which people seem to think Nintendo will.
I just don't buy the whole "3DS is their cash cow and they need to keep talking about it in case Switch bombs" argument. If Switch bombs, Nintendo aren't going to say "bugger it" and go back to churning out all their games on ancient 3DS hardware. They'll release a smaller, lighter, cheaper Switch. Give it up guys, 3DS had a good run but it's coming to an end. They obviously won't say out loud "everyone chuck your 3DS in the bin, show's over", but that's probably what they're thinking internally. If games are still coming out for 3DS it's likely because they were already well into development by the time devs were able to get their hands on Switch dev kits.
If the 35 minute rumours are true, my prediction is 20 minutes on Spla2n and Arms combined, 5 minutes on 3DS stuff and 10 minutes on ????. That ???? could be more details about OS features such as apps, it could be more information about how their online system is going to work, it could be more footage of Fire Emblem Warriors, it could be a total megaton like a Pokemon Stars announcement (fingers crossed but not holding out any hope at all as I suspect this would get it's own Pokemon direct but hey, ORAS was a total throwaway announcement and if Stars is literally just Sun and Moon in HD they may not feel like it's worth making an enormous song and dance about it.)
This. Ideally, the most I'm hoping they can take from Zero are the assets, which would just make turn around time slightly easier.
Otherwise, I'd be all for Miyamoto and EAD senior staff just taking more of a supervisory role so that P* and the younger EAD devs can make a StarFox game on their own. There's gotta be someone among the younger generation who has an idea of how to make a good StarFox game
Star fox uprising by mashpotato samurai.
moltonasty
Member
I can't really see them taking another shot at Star Fox after the critical and commercial reception for Zero. I'd love to be wrong though, this series deserves better.
So it's starfox but now the arwing had arms instead of guns and you control them with the joycons.
I Wanna Be The Guy
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I played Wind Waker HD 90% with one screen. Same with Twilight Princess HD. And most Wii U games in general for that matter.
Oh I wouldn't be porting Windwaker HD at this point in time either..
..but if they are going to spend time and money on porting a load of games..it should at least be ones with a fair track record. Porting flops is not the way to go.
Incitemaybe
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Load times. Typical Freeze could benefit from much MUCH better load times.
JershJopstin
Banned
I agree it's not necessary but the treasure charts in TWW feel like they were designed with the gamepad in mind. It's weird.
Tropical Freeze eeked by the 1 million mark
plus if they do it it should be Returns + Tropical Freeze in a collection
so you almost never just dragged the item you wanted to equip? you paused the game and then dragged the item? or you paused the game and then took a look at the map?
why?
Y'know? Considering StarFox apparently lost out by just a smidge to Kid Icarus when it came to Sakurai choosing what was going to his big 3DS project so many years ago...I wouldn't mind this.
I think Virtual Console might get it's own direct. It would be the PERFECT thing for them to just say "oh and you can download it from the E-shop right now". Doesn't need months of hype and teaser trailers like a full game, just spend 15 minutes talking about it, showing off how it works on Switch and boom, put it up for download.
Jorok Goldblade
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Donkey Kong Country Collection- Tropical Freeze and an HD version of Returns
Because that's how it's been done for years beforehand/found the pro controller more comfortable than the gamepad/it put the action on hold.
well more power to you, but i never want to look for treasure chests without a map available at all times
LegendofLex
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After BotW, I actually don't think past 3D Zeldas will have a lot of standalone selling power.
A collection probably would, though.
Yeah, this is basically what I was thinking.
Bring in the updated Kong character models from Tropical Freeze, but otherwise Returns can be just an upscaled Wii version without motion controls.
Tropical Freeze can be literally identical and I'll be totally happy about it.
I'd rather Nintendo do two things:
1) Give everyone who bought NES Classic Edition access to every game included with it on the Nintendo Switch Virtual Console for free. Validate that through MyNintendo registration.
2) Release Virtual Console collections for each major franchise on carts (SMB 1-3, maybe + World; Zelda 1, 2, LttP, and LA; Metroids 1-4), complete with new collection boxart.
Truthfully, I'd rather have each individual retro game get its own release just to have the boxart on my physical shelf again, but I know the economics of that isn't feasible. What's really important for me, though, is the packaging - and I don't think a "NES Classic Edition" package would be as attractive as these franchise-specific collections. Being able to include games from multiple generations also sweetens the deal for the franchises that didn't get lots of entries on NES or SNES individually.
jts
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I Wanna Be The Guy
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Because the gamepad doesn't have 2 screens on it and I rarely have time to play games on the tv these days.
Not enough content yet to offer 30% off coupons yet.
Wait til 2 years from now when they start offering 30% on games you've already bought.
Colonel Mustard
Banned
Give me Sin and Punishment Collection. The original and Star Successor in HD on a cartridge with both traditional and gyro controls and online leaderboards. I'd buy that for $50.