Bayonetta out on Steam (4K, dual audio), $19.99, PC launch trailer, dev diary
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Give us Bayonetta 2 on steam!!!!
I think you're supposed to pull enemies to you with the whip and then jump on them. I'm to understand that you get a jump count reset whenever you hop on something.
EDIT:
Oh no wait, you're already doing that.
Then I don't know :v
EDIT EDIT:
That said, still having a hard time keeping whip lady and wolverine in the air: they really don't wanna stay there and just flip out the moment witch time runs out (feels like they launch funny during the thing too whereas other enemies will follow me upwards during witch time).
I've kinda just given up and decided to play them dry and just do the dodge offset thing and hit them with a bunch of weaves lol
Parry gets me the most witch time, but I'm not sure this item actually works normally on Infinite Climax.
Seems to work well for me. It's the closest to fullscreen yet with 3440x1440.
I find the centered HUD a bit intrusive though.
Perhaps that's not a problem with a triple 16:9 setup, but hopefully Platinum's patch will have a proper 21:9 HUD that pushes it out to the edges of the screen.
mamoniadas
Member
for hang time alfheims, pulling in enemies with kulshedra and jumping off them isnt working then try adding in Shuraba(sword)'s charged jumping P attack to stall in the air. crow within is almost essential too.
This port is, sadly, completely unplayable for me. Until I figure out why I'm getting the frame drops I can't do anything. Going under 20 at times despite the RX 480 and low cpu usage.
The reason for the question is that you don't have the whip by that point in the game and if it's not possible without the whip then it is the first (and, by my count, only) alfheim that's not doable at the time you arrive at it on a first time playthrough.
There are others, like the limited punchs-kicks one that comes before you get the sword, that are very difficult unless you know very well what you're doing (or have an accessory that does damage, like the parry bracelets... although that also requires knowing what you're doing), but I think you can't do a minute in the air without the whip.
The original question was whether the Chapter V air time alfheim is possible without the whip.
The reason for the question is that you don't have the whip by that point in the game and if it's not possible without the whip then it is the first (and, by my count, only) alfheim that's not doable at the time you arrive at it on a first time playthrough.
There are others, like the limited punchs-kicks one that comes before you get the sword, that are very difficult unless you know very well what you're doing (or have an accessory that does damage, like the parry bracelets... although that also requires knowing what you're doing), but I think you can't do a minute in the air without the whip.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
How do you do the button input "cheats" in this version?
Someone posted a fix in here for AMD stuff or whatever... does that not work?
That said, more game stuff:
I am now coming the realization that parrying is actually easier than dodging lol
When you parry, you put the enemy into a stun state that guarantees them to eat some hits... I don't run into that situation where I dodge incorrectly and then attack into someone's hitbox like a twat.
I already knew this from a while back (and it's a holdover for Nier Automata), but you can pretty much mash parry and you're more or less going to get it practically 100% of the time.
(it's not like 3S or whatever where you have a few frames after the forward input where you can't do the shit again... and it's definitely not like DMC where the only way a normal human being can land a royal guard is by doing it during a jump lol)
You may not get the perfect parry that has the super extended witch time, but that small window where the enemy reels back is more than enough to do things and not have you run into shit.
(if I actually didn't play on autopilot, I'm pretty sure that
Jeanne
I can also parry while charging the sword, which is great.
Can you... parry offset? I should try :v
That said, I've been sandbagging areas that I want to play mainly because... it will likely be followed by areas that I don't want to play.
When is training mode mod?
TyrantGuardian
Member
Yes, you can complete all the alfheims the first time you get to them. That's what I've been doing on my first PC run and I'm up to the Epilogue now. Alfheims are actually kind of the tutorials of the game. The only way to clear some of them is by truly understanding the combat system.
More importantly; can we get to modding in the greatest feature of Bayonetta 2 yet? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au9s4KRaIDc
More importantly; can we get to modding in the greatest feature of Bayonetta 2 yet? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au9s4KRaIDc
5olid_5nake
Member
Damn, I was hoping on monday to bite the bullet and buy on bundlestars Bayonetta since they were giving that nice discount, but it has already sold out. 
I have an i7. The AMD-related fix did not work.
Parrying is easier than dodging a lot of the time. Ironically, however, I find it relatively difficult on normal because I'm expecting enemies to attack a lot faster than they actually do.
After a lot of NSIC I've found the game to be easier with the auto-taunt artifact than without it.
How did you do the Chapter 5 Alfheim where you have to stay up for a minute without the whip? I didn't try for particularly long but it seemed pretty hopeless when I did. I think the most I got was 20 seconds.
Fake edit: LOL I'M STUPID YOU GET THE WHIP IN CHAPTER 3 AND I MISSED THE LP.
Can someone come out with a cheat save file?
I don't wanna go through this shit again lol
Kulshedra is Chapter 3, so you can use it for the Chapter 5 Alfheim. It would be incredibly hard to do it with neither the whip nor bird form, though.
Maybe it's just cause I suck at the air ones without using the cheesy whip.
Also, your tip post on the last page was great!
That's where I've always done it. I use Gaze of Despair, BoT, equip Lightning Durga on both sets of hands, and do Punch Punch *weapon swap* over and over.
zidanelucis
Banned
Hot damn. Bayo never looked so good. 4K is a blessing.
Isn't this basically the OT anyway?
Amusing anecdote: Atelier Sophie PC had all the talk in the release thread as well. Then a mod closed it (so that a proper OT would get made). But no one did and instead all the talk died down completely, and so the release thread was opened again and talk continued
TyrantGuardian
Member
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Put this song and Bayonetta 2 skin and I don't need Bayonetta 2 on steam.
Not true, but it would soft the lack of Bayo 2 on steam
this game keeps getting minimized when I launched it the first time. never reached the menu. then I disable DSR in NVidia control panel and it worked.
but once in awhile the game gets minimized randomly. anyone got this problem?
I change it to borderless, hopefully it'll mitigate the problem
using i7 3770k with 1070
and 4K TV
but once in awhile the game gets minimized randomly. anyone got this problem?
I change it to borderless, hopefully it'll mitigate the problem
using i7 3770k with 1070
and 4K TV
I just realized that you can also play as Jeanne at some point, and I really like her design, much more than Bayonetta - but going for an all platinum playthrough really doesn't sound appealing, especially with that terrible flying section. Is there any other way? I read somewhere you can buy her for a million halos?
sixteen-bit
Member
Jeanne is my favorite character too. If you don't want to do a Platinum run, she can be unlocked for a million halos at one of the payphones
Just be aware that to activate Witch Time with here your timing must be way more strict that with Bayo (reward is 1.5x Halo boost tho, IIRC).
Phoenix RISING
Banned
I liked the music in Bayo 1 better. Pretty much the the biggest issue I have with the game. It's a step back.
Cool, thanks!
efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
Some weird bugs in this.
Having really bad framerate issues and someone on Steam's forums suggested going offline, which increased the framerate by a noticeable amount!
Having really bad framerate issues and someone on Steam's forums suggested going offline, which increased the framerate by a noticeable amount!
I've only made some basic attempts, but it should be possible to mod the Bayonetta 2 soundtrack into the game, yeah.
DarkestHour
Banned
Finally got around to playing last night. What an incredible port!
Was the Wii U version censored? I don't remember the partial nudity and such heavy swearing on that one.
Was the Wii U version censored? I don't remember the partial nudity and such heavy swearing on that one.
It was exactly the same content-wise - the only intentional changes were the added Nintendo costumes. Maybe you're thinking of Bayonetta in Smash Bros?
DarkestHour
Banned
Must be bad memory. I can't fire it up to verify because my Gamepad is busted...
Not gonna happen. Nintendo owns that game. Hideki Kamiya said it best, that while you're asking for them to port for other systems, you should ask for Mario, Zelda, and Donkey Kong as well.
demosthenes
Member
Sad but true. I'll take vanquish instead.
Auto-Reply
Member
I noticed that window-mode and borderless are choppy on my PC, fullscreen runs flawlessly ... thank god.
IMO Moon River ∞ > Fly Me To The Moon ∞ but I'd have to concede the rest. Nothing comes close to Red & Black in Bayo 2, but at least they had the foresight to include most of the original soundtrack.
If pressed, I'd probably say 1 had the better overall soundtrack as well, but it's difficult to draw a clear distinction - along with Moon River; the various Lumen Sage themes and Beyond Time stack up favourably compared to the Cardinal Virtue boss themes; and both the ground and air tracks for past Vigrid are easily among the best stage music in either game.
muetimueti
Neo Member
Holy shit I'm bad at this game now. I could pure platinum everything back in the day, and now I don't think I've gotten a single platinum award during my first normal playthrough, I even died a couple of times, especially in later chapters. Game is still amazing though, I'll jump right back into hard.
Majukun
Member
yeah,sounds about right
Diddy Kong
Banned
nephilimdj
Member
Playing it on a old amd a7 and 960, plays pretty well at 2k in fights. Some weird stuttering when loading areas or coming into a new one.
I hope someone makes a auto quick time patch
I hope someone makes a auto quick time patch
TonberrysKnife
Member
Runs at 4K with all options maxed out with my 980Ti. Very pleasantly surprised.
Astral/H3X
Member
Wait, hold on, there are mods for this? 
What mods are there? Is there one to use the Bayo 2 button layout with the better lock on button?
What mods are there? Is there one to use the Bayo 2 button layout with the better lock on button?
yeab but beehive is more iconic
Yes I... googled it last night and realized that you get the whip in chapter 3 and I somehow missed the LP.
I've played this game to death - probably my highest singleplayer non-RPG hours - but I've only actually started from scratch twice - once when it came out the first time and once when it came out on the Wii U - so I'm pretty hazy on when stuff gets unlocked.
I think it's impossible without the whip. You do too much damage with your feet and the AI is too smart to just clump up around you.
...I've never seen that before. I might actually try this.
Incidentally, I think this is the chapter II one since he's only up thirty seconds and the hard mode version of V has a bunch of regular enemies.
Get the mayflash adapter. It even allows for you to remap the controller buttons to Xbox style or use it on a Sony system (at least ps3).